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 MSI Gaming Notebook, Check out Post #3! Gathering time!

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post Aug 10 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 9 2013, 08:14 PM)
Do you know what is the full variant model number?

I know the ones sold in Malaysia previously was GE40 2OC-019MY.

Edit: I suspect a typo as the GE40 was launched side by side with its larger brother which comes with both the Steel Series Keyboard as well as the Killer LAN. Could be confusion on their part.
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Nope. I'm calling typo on the keyboard at least, but the Killer Lan IS feasable, knowing how XoticPC and some other resellers spec their GE40s with Killer Ethernet. Similarly the Intel WLAN card.
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Aug 11 2013, 12:31 AM)
GTX765m doesnt direct relate to the screen size, but resolution smile.gif But yea, it's only 2.2cm which is very slim and sleek
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True that, but you EXPECT something stronger when you see a 17 incher, slim or otherwise. Oh well, the 765 is good enough for most people anyway, and enthusiasts won't be looking for a thin and light for gaming anyway.

@Unseen83: I guess buying online is your best bet for cheap DDR3L right now.

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QUOTE(cschun86 @ Aug 11 2013, 09:47 PM)
Does MSI GE40 have backlit keyboard?
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Nope. Unfortunately.

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QUOTE(jujx @ Aug 12 2013, 01:19 PM)
Let us know the result when you did the rest. I'm really interested to get one. Which model you got?
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More importantly, PICTARSSSSSS!

Is the chassis aluminum or plastic?

EDIT: The first owner review of the GS70 courtesy of HWZ: http://bit.ly/19cXWsq

3 hours GAMING on battery WTF. With a 4700 proc no less! Now I REALLY JELLY! Heatwise seems similar to the GE40 - Procs get to 95c under load.

No mention of the chassis materials though, looks like plastic.

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 12 2013, 07:17 PM)
Battery life is pretty decent. Must be quite a high capacity pack in it. That's one giant power brick. At least for people like @Eiraku it won't fry, eh? tongue.gif
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OI... hmm.gif

Anyhows, I'm very jelly. If only there was a GS40, than I'll totally RAGE... vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif


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post Aug 12 2013, 07:56 PM

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Video review of the GS70:

http://youtu.be/QaLbVTs2B5k

Only bad thing about the GS70 (other than the built in battery) is the fact that NOTHING seems user upgradable/moddable. The guy in the video above says that opening the chassis can result in twisting the entire thing apart.

A small price to pay for the slimness, of course. But for tinkerers like me, I'll go nuts not being able to adjust anything in the laptop lol.

Hopefully, however, this will entice A LOT of newcomers to the MSI camp. Looks like a great mix of size, mobility and performance indeed.

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QUOTE(victor2212 @ Aug 12 2013, 10:46 PM)
wont void the warranty for adding msata ssd right?
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RAM I know won't void. Storage also SHOULD be okay but please check with the MSI Careline first.

@Cimo: All Malaysian sets bro, none of them imported AP crap for MSI lappies YET (unless you import them yourself... ehem, ehem). Warranty is TWO years, and the first year is international warranty (even if you DID import it in, the first year warranty still stands). My experience with MSI services (subcontracted to E-Mantainance) have also has been okay so far, a bit slow-ish but they get the job done satisfactorily, especially if you have access to the main service branch in Kelana Square PJ.

My issue was small though ("apparent" AC adapter death) and it might take a week or more if your "issue" is serious enough that it involves exchange of laptop parts because E-M has to order the parts from MSI direct.

Just in case you were wondering how MSI service is locally for their laptops.

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QUOTE(teh.halia903 @ Aug 13 2013, 08:20 AM)
yeah dude, thats a sad looking place...at first me also cant believe a big company like msi can only afford sc like that. upgrading ram wont void warranty.
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Datswai I went to he Kelana Square service outlet... Which looks a liiiiiiiiitle bit better.

Not by much though lol.

QUOTE(zzloo @ Aug 13 2013, 09:18 AM)
2 years warranty local set.

Sadly, adding mSATA will void the warranty cause there is a sticker under then body. But my seller say he will gao dim la.

But really sad lo on a big brand high performance lappy u just can't do anything.. I bought 1 Asus, 1 HP and 2 Dell and all of them are very user friendly for DIY, none of them got warranty sticker blocking ur way
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Actually for RAM upgrades especially tearing the sticker won't matter - as stated by the MSI Careline and various MSI reps I've contacted. If they see the sticker torn, the service personnel will FIRST look if the RAM have been upgraded - in which case service proceeds as usual.

Somebody else contacted them through email and it seems upgrading mSATA/HDD is treated the same way. AS LONG AS NOTHING ELSE INSIDE THE LAPTOP IS DISTURBED IN ANY WAY.

Though for the GS70 not sure if anything can be done RAM related, considering all the RAM is soldered on the motherboard.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT, like I said before, DO check with the CARELINE (ask them to get the people IN CHARGE of the laptop department FIRST!) before proceeding with any SELF MODDING.

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QUOTE(tonberry_ax @ Aug 13 2013, 09:21 AM)
Kelana Square have service outlet? Where was it located?  hmm.gif
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C309, Block C, Kelana Square,
No. 17, Jalan SS7/26, Kelana Jaya 47301,
Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan

Near that something-something private University.
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QUOTE(ThisIsBoletaria @ Aug 13 2013, 09:40 AM)
Questions:

1)  If you look at MSI's current brochure (page 15), you'll note that it says the GE40 has optional Super Raid 0.  I know that there has been talk that our local version of the GE40-20C doesn't have the mSATA daughterboard, but I'm wondering if the current refresh has it built in now.

2) If you look on page 14 of the same brochure, it says the GE60 also has optional Super Raid 0.  Does the GE60 have mSATA support out of the box?

3) The current brochure doesn't have any info on the GS70. Any idea what the local version's specs and prices are like?

4) In theory, is it possible to swap out the i7-4700 on any of these models with an i7-4800?
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1) Looking at the specs, both MY version and the current refresh (assuming the info about the changes in the new refresh is NOT just a typo) of the GE40 comes with the Optical Disk Drive. This means that they BOTH do not come with the optional mSATA daughterboard. I have heard info that you can order both the daughterboard AND the ODD SATA HDD caddy from MSI Malaysia, but I haven't had time to check. There are also info floating online that GENERIC SATA to mSATA adapters and SATA HDD caddies CAN be used though, but it seems nobody have tried yet.

2) IINM, the GE60 mSATA slots are on the motherboard, so yes. I can be wrong though.

3) You can check in garage sales for the specs and prices. They all SHOULD be official Malaysian models (I haven't seen MSI AP sets yet, except for a certain somebody who imported his own GE40 in for the mSATA).

4) In theory, YES. It should be possible because ALL OF the MQ chips comes in sockets and are interchangeable. The HQ processors (4700HQ on the GS70 for instance) however are SOLDERED on the motherboard and ARE NOT interchangeable.

BUT, you must keep in minds the ability of certain models to cope with the heat produced by the before mentioned processors. For example, putting a 4900MQ in my GE40 will FOR SURE overwhelm the meager cooling system.

As for CPU BIOS support, MSI has never locked anything in the past and I don't think they will start now. IINM anyway.

For warranty? Keep your old processor and put it back lar lol.

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Aug 13 2013, 03:09 PM)
soo is there hot MSI girls working behind the counter? or another Sad Chinese guy... who luv to say "no.. " "we afraid, to refer to MSI"  "we try not to get MSI involved" " hmm... no"  hmm only on MSI Facebook girls touch this brands... 

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well look it at bright side... at least got Steelseries Keyboards with multi-color!! and AWESOM MSI gaming Mouse that flash RED LIGHT!! and Dynaudio!! with Creative Cinema  oh Nvidia GTX 780M! 4GDDR5!!!  if you guys dont have that.. i don't see point getting MSI...  thumbup.gif
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Let's see. GE40...

SteelSeries keyboard with multicolour LED... nope.

Awesome MSI gaming Mouse... nope.

Dynaudio... nope.

I no point getting MSI. I saddings nao... cry.gif

But really, the MSI guys at Lowyat are really unmotivated. At least the Kelana Square guys a bit better - they get the work done even if it takes some time.

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Aug 13 2013, 08:06 PM)
ah sorry don't mean to be @ss... sure GE40 is super awesome! in it's own  way... does it have thermal bridge/Cooler boost2 ? need check spec... now

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Edit: so it use energy efficent I7 smile.gif /it got super raid /1 in thick and 2 KG ! wow thinnest 14inch notebook!  plus come audio boost! what a Awesome Hornet you have there...!  rclxms.gif
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LOL.

Anyhow, how are you enjoying your GT70 so far? Not taking into account the stressed out MSI guy in Lowyat experience of course. I went there at the Lowyat MSI Service Centre too when I bought my GE40 and asked a few questions... so I know what you mean.

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QUOTE(ThisIsBoletaria @ Aug 13 2013, 10:21 PM)
I called MSI"s product info hotline and they told me we can indeed get.the GE40 mSATA daughterboard (just the daughterboard) at the MSI service centres for about RM 500. The daughterboard is installed into an ODD bay caddy and can be done while you wait. However, MSI's sales personnel also told me that they are currently out of stock locally, and they need 2-3 days to bring the part in upon order.

I did, bur I found conflicting information. Some listings say the CPU is an i7-4700MQ, and some say it's an i7-4700HQ. Since I'm interested in vt-d, I'd like to know if the processor is supposed to be the vt-dless MQ or the vt-d equipped HQ.
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A bit steep but for service + still keeping warranty, not bad. I hope that includes the optical disk HDD caddy too.

As for the GS70, check out the reviews and previews online. It ONLY comes with the 4700HQ, due to the fact that it's so thin. The MQ (and the socket) wouldn't fit. All the other MSI lappies come with MQs I think.

QUOTE(milky @ Aug 13 2013, 11:10 PM)
guys.. i saw a thread at garage sales selling MSI GE70
with NVIDIA® GeForce® Fermi GTX765M, 2GB GDDR5
fermi is just model right not becoz of highend name & low end right?
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"Fermi" is the architecture name for the LAST GEN nVidia GPUs (4xx and 5xx series). The 765 is ACTUALLY one of the "Kepler" chips, which started with the 6xx series GPUs.

In short, any nVidia cards that starts with a number 6 or 7 is a "Kepler" chip.

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Oh shiat. My GE40 just died. It's simply refusing to start, getting stuck right after the MSI logo - the screen blinking on and off while the power button alternates between orange and blue.

W... T... F...

Now going through the Windows Refresh process. Thankfully most of my more "important" stuff remain backed up in my User directory (which is supposedly kept in one peace through the refresh). Everything else will not be so lucky however (full wipe of everything else).

Resetting and reinstaling everything back to square one is really gonna kill me. Plus I have a splitting headache from 10 straight hours of PayDay 2.

Dem, I have no idea what happened either.

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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Aug 15 2013, 11:12 AM)
Relax bro, mine was like that the first time I bought it.Let it boot 2-3 times.Then It'll boot Windows back.My power button also shifted from orange to blue continuosly.
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Heh. I should have waited and DID THIS. I refreshed it anyway and got everything nuked from orbit Aliens style. Clearly the recovery image had been customised by MSI: it was exactly like it first came, bloat and all.

On the other hand, the refresh tool really did refresh everything from square one except for:

A) Stuff in your user folder (Yay my New Vegas saves!).
B) Stuff you DID NOT install in Program Files (which is weird lol). I lost the registry entries for these programs (installed in C: root) so I need to reinstall anyway, but at least the save files are safe.

Maybe next time I refresh I should do a "recimg" and create my own personalised recovery image to make things easier.

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Damn, it was Windows update for sure. I just installed the SAME update I installed the last time, now the computer is refusing to boot AGAIN. It's stuck in the SAME blue/orange light bootloop like the last time.

This time I'm just gonna try waiting it out. Sigh.

Oh Win8 Y U NO LIEK ME?

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QUOTE(ThisIsBoletaria @ Aug 16 2013, 09:51 AM)
Win8 don't like nobody yo. And ain't nobody likes Win8.
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And I actually like Win8.

I waited and waited and nothing happened (I went to sleep and woke up also nothing) so I fullnuked the whole thing with a "reset" (format and image restore). Thankfully the F3 recovery menu also provided access to a working Command Prompt so I could backup everything I needed.

Funnily enough, refresh will still use the MSI custom Win8 image so it's back to day one with all the bloat - this time with a fully formatted C: drive and no User folder.

Suspecting that the "issue" is due to a Win8 update clashing with my patched Uxtheme files. So now using UXStyle to circumvent this whole issue with patching uxtheme. Let's see how that works out.

Ah the trials of the avid tweaker.

Now setting up a recimg refresh image with a clean, no new driver state and later will set up a full system image.

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Aug 16 2013, 05:56 PM)
Heh.. first thing I did after booting it up once was to shove in a brand new 256GB mSATA inside, so no bloatwares at all. Fresh Win 8 Pro installation.

Yeah, most likely MSI has a recovery drive hidden somewhere which it will revert to. At least you figured it out.
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From all the hints being thrown around I'm guessing you're in the media line, right? biggrin.gif

Anyway I *think* I figured it out. Hence the recimg-ing and system imaging, just in case more shiat hits the fan.

But that aside, this whole thing with MSI warranty services is starting to sound like a case of "we actually have no idea what we're doing" on a national scale. Which is worrying, as it points to very bad consumer communications. They should have explained in a bit more detail like Storm88 has said, at least.

But I've heard shit like this even from big companies like Sony. Imagine owning a WATERPROOF Sony Camera and being refused warranty (within warranty period) for WATER INGRESS.

I was like WTF Sony?

BUT for big companies these "cases" are far and in between. MSI really needs to step up in the support game if they REALLY want to give other "gaming" companies proper competition. Word of mouth is a mighty powerful advertising tool after all.

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QUOTE(Shiroi14 @ Aug 16 2013, 10:41 PM)
My new MSI GT70-2OD arrived today , any 1 know where to purchase DDR3L  1.35V ram  in local ?
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Online still your best bet. Locally it's overpriced and hard to get - Sri Computer has but Kingston oni IINM.
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QUOTE(Shiroi14 @ Aug 17 2013, 02:18 AM)
oic ..... should the stock 16 GB ram enough right ?
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Should be. Unless you're encoding huge videos, compiling multiple programs in parallel or doing virtualization of multiple OSes (or doing all the above at the same time).

For gaming it's GENERALLY enough - most older games can't use more than 4GBs of RAM anyway.

But more RAM is always good.

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