I have no experience with Asus SC(my sister's Asus never rosak one, even after she buy Alienware to replace it) but Dell services was undoubtedly impressive throughout the 3 years I spent under warranty cover with the M1210.

That is, IF you manage to get a good service agent of course. The bad ones are about MSI level or worse.

But anyway, yeah, I bought the MSI expecting I would get a better build ACER with slightly better service and so far it hasn't strayed too far from my expectations. Well, it has to be cheap for a reason rite?

As for the warranty thing, I'm calling service agent miscommunication on this - a 2 year "warranty" with 3 months only free labour is ridiculous if true.

Here's the terms as stated by the MSI Malaysia website:



More details here: http://my.msi.com/service/warranty/

If they're not following this we can complain to MSI global for sure.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2013, 05:33 PM

Under the details in the link. Free service = labour and parts.

If they're aren't honouring this we can bomb them on Facebook.

When it comes to faulty drivers, I've seen Lenovo and Dell do weird back flips as well, especially when it comes to the current spat of issues with faulty Intel WIFI chips. Lenovo passes the blame to Intel, who passes it back to Lenovo.

In the end, since 1 year back until now no solution. Both parties stalling for warranty period to end.

Very jelly woo dual fans and aluminium chassis.

Just have to check 12mm or 9mm drive height then eBay or lelong lor. Like for me 9mm blueray drive quite expensive around 500-600. Better just buy usb lidat.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 18 2013, 06:17 PM

Sound Blaster Cinema? I ditched the thing the moment I got me lappy. Software "enhancers" aren't my cuppa tea. Not that it does much difference to my tiiiiiiny GE40 speakers lol.

Oh and I repasted with Xigmatek Freezing Point here, temps are a little better and it gets colder faster for sure.

As for warranty: nobody will notice lol. I doubt they will open it up and say "your thermal paste is NOT as MESSY as stock so warranty void". Lolwut?

Thanks bro. I can help populate the thread and answer questions but a bit too lazy to threadstart - now so old not much free time edi.

BTW, Payday 2 is AWESOME. Get it and let's rob banks together guys. Also, BF3 in on sale for around RM15 + 7 other games bundled together at https://www.humblebundle.com/. Damn cheap if you ask me, and it's all for charity. You get BOTH Origin AND Steam copies for 6 of the games as well, so it's more like 14 games for RM15, all original.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 19 2013, 12:52 PM

Well, ultimately performance or not depends on the DAC chip being used. Buuuut that's an entirely different can of worms already.

Suddenly I got the urge to test out Razer Surround 7.1 software emulator after listening to you guys. Damn it turned my Koss PortaPros into instant surround sound headphones lol. IMHO works better than SB Cinema (it has EQ and other "enhancements" as well) and it's free too. Biggest CON, it needs Razer Synapse installed (bummer) but well, I'm already tied to Steam (Payday 2) and Origin (BF3) so yet ANOTHER always online piece of ess can't do more harm, rite?

Plus it can be configured to run as a separate "virtual" device so that I can turn it off easy when I want to listen to something without software mangling it. If only it came WITHOUT Synapse, sigh.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 19 2013, 08:54 PM

Anddddddd when I called back then they said no void IF install RAM... Granted I asked to speak with the person in charge of notebooks (prolly supervisor).

MSI service really sounds confused over their policies for sure which ain't good for consumer confidence.



Also I've heard that running 1.5 RAM on Haswell will result in really bad sheet happening.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 20 2013, 12:36 PM

A bit of old info but IINM it should still be valid:

Straight from the LYN MSI rep. Hopefully it still holds.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 21 2013, 11:49 AM

After careful consideration, taking into account the mSATA costs RM500 on it's own (which borders on ridiculous but ONLY MSI has the correct, Super RAID capable part), I've come to the conclusion that I only really need a ODD HDD caddy + a normal "proper" SSD.

With a proper SSD costing about the same as an mSATA, there's no way the overhead can be justified even with the (proported) benefits of Super RAID IMO.

As usual, YMMV.

Now to find a caddy that I can "reuse" my old ODD faceplate cover with, to keep the "stock" look.

Got activity light? Material of the caddy, as I prefer metal if possible.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 21 2013, 04:22 PM

Actually I just noticed that the ori ODD cover doesn't really fit in that well to begin with. Thinking a straight matte generic plastic cover would "fit" better, so the capability to retrofit the old ODD cover is not really important now.

@Zakov: You misunderstand me, that's my intention as well. The SSD must be the main disk to be of any use to begin with. The huge spinner can go to the caddy.

Prolly gonna use a 265GB Crucial or Plextor of some sort. I'm not digging the SandForce trim issues and I'm not really keen on the really low MBTF estimates of the Samsung low end.

Currently targeting the Crucial M500 for the "extra" power save features it provides with Haswell.

@Storm88: Interested, but the caddy looks plastic. Is it? Is it screwed in?

Personally I'm looking for Alu for heat conductivity purposes to drain the heat off the HDD later. Although considering my laptop is hot to begin with - plastic to insulate it might be better.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 21 2013, 04:29 PM

I never opened my GE40.

Honest.



This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 21 2013, 04:34 PM

All the games I play online (BF3, Hawken, Payday 2) are generally 30FPS able at high/ultra settings, 8x AF and 4x MSAA - I'm more than happy with that.

And yes, the system is taxed more when we're playing online, of course. More people = more things to render.

BTW, I'm in the neck of the woods using Government sponsored WIMAX most of the time so I count my lucky stars that I'm able to BF3 at all lol. Considering net connection is more a source of lag than the my lappy lol.

ALL Haswell laptops with the MQ processors CAN be upgraded. If it's HQ, no. Warranty wise... er... keep the old proc for warranty claims and be very "skillful" and leave no traces.

As for GPU, I'm not so sure. At least last time high end MSI lappies come with MXM slots. Nowadays not sure, I know for a fact that higher end Illegear lappies can be modded for the same reason, but MXM cards are rare and expensive to begin with.

@tonberry_ax: Of course, my personal "Power Saving" profile limits my CPU/GPU hard. I'm not sure I can EVEN play BF3 under that profile - even my Japanese "3D entertainment simulations" lag up.

To begin with, the GE40 self throttles under battery even on "High Performance", further reinforcing my notion that it EATS WATTS like... well, something that eats watts. A lot.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 22 2013, 06:00 PM

Holy flying eff... That was fast. I utterly underestimated how fast you'd sell the GT70. Was thinking about a few months.

While this holds true to you and me (and most other people) there are some who don't really adhere to this sense. Ever seen somebody change smartphones every month? How about every few weeks? This is probably the same, on a much larger economic scale.

Most people like to watch the "cutting edge". Some like to experience it once in a while (like me). While others still, like to be on the "cutting edge" themselves, as it happens.

But I do concur, if RAW POWR is what is being sought, than the desktop is the ultimate destination.

Unless, of course, you're a homeless nomad like me.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 22 2013, 11:17 PM

Lol. I fall into the "get weird stuff frequently" group though, once in a blue moon (often when I get stressed out over something). Understandably my finances go haywire during these "retail therapy" periods.

Maybe it's just that. Stress management. Not the right kind but stress management nonetheless.

BTW, I'm in need of an "psuedo-audiophile acceptable" gaming headset right about now. Main target is the Skullcandy SLYR (which is supposedly QUITE GOOD for something coming from the Skullcandy) but it's not available locally.

Now trying to get the Asus ROG Vulcan, as it supposedly holds it's own against the AKG 701. I really don't need the noise canceling but detachable wires and affordability look mighty nice for something below RM400 new.


This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 22 2013, 11:31 PM

I'd like to have a build in mic too lol, considering the GE40 mic is so... very... crappy.

I know I can order an external mic like the modmic or something but having them all I one for pc use (I have IEMs for other purposes) is convenient. The Vulcan especially so because it folds up. The baby bro Orion also looks nice (and is 30% cheaper!).

Also, there are some that think that the 700 is overrated (as in, overpriced for what it does) for gaming and some of the Fischer Audio cans are better suited. But even those have no mics built in.

Them modmics are out of stock ANYWAY.

@unseen: You interested to sell it (the headphones)?

Also, getting a 240w psu is fine, as long as it's has the MSI connector and similar voltage ratings. I'm actually looking for an MSI 120w psu myself.

@xFreedom: GE40 = Much better battery life, small size, rubbish built in mic. GE60 = Better screen, sliiiiiiiiightly lower temps.

Essentially it depends on your budget and whether you want a 14incher or a 15incher.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 23 2013, 01:14 AM