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post Jan 20 2006, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(spikeee @ Jan 19 2006, 04:35 PM)
hey guys. new heere, but not new to the recording scene. i've also done live mixing, for a youth concert that had around 1.3k ppl, 48 channels of inputs etc.

i'm currently looking for software that provides automation. allowing 'Write' when doing a mix
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Hello there... I think it depends on whether you can sync your mixer to your program.. but I use cubase and it does support write automation when playing back (although I mostly just write it in manually myself).. and I'm sure others like protools and so on can also do it...

Do you mean allowing 'write' when doing a mix from the console or the software mixer anyway?
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post Jan 21 2006, 12:20 PM

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hehe i'm a st udent, so i don't have money for any consoles yet. i'm talking about software mixer tongue.gif i currently use Cool Edit Pro 2.0 and i really don't have any hardware, but my recordings are really quite decent with the budget i'm on tongue.gif
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post Jan 22 2006, 09:41 PM

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Well, Cubase SX does have that capability.. but then it does cost around USD 500 to buy... Although the SL version is only USD250...
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post Jan 23 2006, 06:29 AM

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QUOTE(spikeee @ Jan 21 2006, 12:20 PM)
hehe i'm a st udent, so i don't have money for any consoles yet. i'm talking about software mixer tongue.gif i currently use Cool Edit Pro 2.0 and i really don't have any hardware, but my recordings are really quite decent with the budget i'm on tongue.gif
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why dont u try sonar? if u really into profesional/industrial standard go for sonar.. so many thing that u can tweak with the settings and it also allow u to do live recording if you have multiple line in input (example if you're using MOTU )

if you just doing this for fun/hobby use multiquence .. simple yet effective.. ive made myself a couple of songs using multiquence and the quality is quite nice smile.gif
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post Jan 24 2006, 10:58 AM

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hallo... i came across this great article on mastering your DIY recording to get quality sound. but i've never tried it... it could do good to my awful sounding songs biggrin.gif

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug04/arti...ermastering.htm
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post Jan 24 2006, 04:20 PM

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just used whatever software that ye comfortable with it... in pro industry speed is very important
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post Jan 24 2006, 06:49 PM

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speed is very important? i thought the quality is the one that is important.. a good quality recording ensure that the songs/album have a essential value smile.gif
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post Jan 24 2006, 10:44 PM

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yeah i would think that quality is more important.

do u guys share ur final 'products' ? i just finished a 8 track recording all sequenced by a keyboard, full instrumental. Mixed and mastered. smile.gif quite proud of myself. but still got lots to learn.

for example - what's the best compression/hard limit settings there is to get a good volume going etc
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post Jan 24 2006, 11:48 PM

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i have a few finished songs that my band created.. well i wish i could share the stuff with u guys.. smile.gif but dont really know where to host it...
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post Jan 25 2006, 10:06 AM

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You can try Multiply or My Space for instance, otherwise how about Megaupload or Yousendit? thumbup.gif
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post Jan 25 2006, 10:15 AM

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soundclick.com is pretty good

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post Jan 25 2006, 12:09 PM

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here's another great article on mastering in pc. it has tips on how to set each instrument (guitars, bass, drums, vocals) in the mixer to achieve a good balance in the final mix.

http://www.tweakheadz.com/perfect_mix.html
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post Jan 25 2006, 12:21 PM

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if you working in industry yes speed is important as well as quality...

but if ya just doing ya it cause its ye hobby then all i can say its take ye time to finish it...

that's why i say just try and used whatever software that suits you the best cause there's alot out there..

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spikee and xcremator, i'll be really glad to hear some of your tracks (and i'm sure others would be too !!), unless you prefer to keep it for yourself (copyright and stuff...).

if you go to www.yousendit.com, you can upload your file, and you'll get an URL that you can paste here so we can download it wink.gif
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post Jan 25 2006, 02:19 PM

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i'm with pix here... if you don't plan on copyrighting your stuffs, share them with us! don't be embarassed coz we're not pros either (maybe there are a few).

that reminds me... i haven't updated the 1st post of the My Song thread in a while... considering all the expired yousendits etc

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post Jan 25 2006, 07:52 PM

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Owh since u all insist blush.gif

Well the this is one of the first songs that my band created.. entitle Lost.. create this songs when we are all in form 4 blush.gif arround 2000-2001 at that time still quite n00bs in sound recording.. just cucuk the power masuk sound blaster live >.< at this time semua band member tgh layan metallica thats why the songs kinda rock whistling.gif

http://s18.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZEJ366...CY0R35UUU1HPQHP

Hardware Equipment:

Pyramid Electric Guitar
Boss DS-1 Distortion
Boss MT-1 Metal Zone
Zoom 707

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Goldwave
Multiquence
Sound Forge
Mod Plug Tracker (Drums)


then after a year we made another songs.. actually there is alot of idea but only a few that we implement it into recording.. this songs is called Now That You're Gone.. at this time there is alot of Nickelback's influece in making this songs laugh.gif

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2L7LGLE...HW2YG6LGQK0RG5Z

Hardware Equipment:

Yamaha TRS-Pro
Zoom GFX 4
Line 6 POD XT
Shure SM58

Software:

Goldwave
Multiquence
Sound Forge
Mod Plug Tracker (Drums)


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reminds me of hoobastank.....
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it sounded to me like Now that you're gone was recorded way earlier than Lost... The sound in Lost is much better, and the mastering of the instruments (guitar solo, rythm, bass) is better. The voice is interesting, can't say it's a "perfect" voice, but there is a catchy thing in it.

In Lost, the heavy rythm just after the intro was done with the MT1 ? That's very effective !!

Recording seems good to me, except maybe:
voice is a bit dry (more reverb /compression ?)
heavy rythm guitar ... you recorded two tracks of heavy guitars, and panned it on each side, but still you could have gone further left and right for those guitars : i just "feel" they are too much in the center.
the bass could have been clearer, it's a bit dark, blur ( i'm talking about the clean parts ). The bass line is really good, here i'm just commenting about the sound.

evo.com > next time you post a track i'll only say "it reminds me of xxxx ...", and that's it. Not very nice tongue.gif
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post Jan 26 2006, 02:33 AM

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btw i'm having some problems with the final mastering. was wondering how much i should do a hard limit on it . i did +9 db and all i got was extreme bass frequency phase cancellation sad.gif was bad.
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post Jan 26 2006, 02:45 AM

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i have a latest release in the studio back in melawati

BTW here some new song.. i like the sound of drums in this settings and the heavy rythym.. the spec is the same as Now That Youre gone

BTW all of the voice are made by a single person just change the frequency and a guy can make a woman voice wink.gif

Its called Suici-Dial actually the song purpose was to tease my drummer who relly like to play piano but dunno how to play it and always silap and play the sound macam dalam lagu.. then we all decide to tease him to the max by recording it laugh.gif

http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3H28SOQ...233ML8W9B7R2SRZ

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heavy rythm guitar ... you recorded two tracks of heavy guitars, and panned it on each side, but still you could have gone further left and right for those guitars : i just "feel" they are too much in the center.


you're good bro thumbup.gif you know we layered 2 sets guitar sound and layered it with each other.. you sure have sensitive ears.. notworthy.gif dont worry tomorow i will host one of my band new release i think the recording quality for the song im going to post is the best so far..(for me lah tongue.gif).. and no longer use golwave and multiquence.. up another lavel using sonar 3 and Boss GT-8 whistling.gif
but today my uni net really sucks laa... so hard to upload stufz shakehead.gif

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