When i meet him, i was quite surprise that he's holding a new Sample Keyboard. He tried to show me the Cherry MX switch, and when the keycaps taken off, i was , Wow, RARE Cherry MX RED

If Leopold going to release this soon, i`ll be glad that Malaysian will have the Choice to purchase Cherry MX Red Switch, Since it's rare throughout the whole market.

Most of us probably gonna bottoming out the key even when we're using red, It's just that Red will make your finger less fatigue when compare to you using Cherry MX Black.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Dec 30 2010, 04:46 PM

yes, if you wanted to do that, you need to open the Cherry MX switch and swap the springs, it's a troublesome step, and btw. repeat the step 104 times if you want to change all keys. And buying 2 sets just for changing to red? errr.. i don't thiink so..

Added: Info

If you're thinking about swapping, i think you should forget about it if you're buying Filco or Ducky, since they are not PCB Mounted. Filco is Steel plate mounted, while Ducky is Aluminium plate mounted.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Dec 30 2010, 04:50 PM

well, that's will become a DIY keyboard.

But still, if there's a choice for you to get Cherry MX Red Keyboard directly, and much cheaper, would you still consider buying a alternative keyboard and mod it?

Well, that's why there always a choice between multiple switches to let you choose which suits your taste. Not everyone like blue thou.

Hmm.. i think you're taking it the wrong way.

since what you says "wouldn't blue be more 'fun' to type in with the acknowledging takatakatakatakataka and the tactile snap."

Not everyone would prefer clicky sound and tactile bump feeling. you should have some try on some demo unit. since they do not sound like takatakatakataka
There's also people prefer to have a quieter keyboard, black, brown, red would be a alternative choices, because sometimes, we do might use the keyboard at midnight or next to a person, and Blue switch clicky sound might be sound pleasant towards the keyboard user, but not the person around the keyboard user.
As for tactile bump, it is something like a helpful feature for those that prefer to touch typing a keyboard, because they don't always bottoming out the key, and wanted to improve on touch typing.

I think Blue is more of a typist keyboard, since the switch require less force to press on, and has a tactile bump(to let you feel when the key is being pressed), it's a perfect keyboard for touch typing, especially for those typist that do type really fast with touch typing.

As for my, i use mechanical keyboard frequently, and types about 100wpm(words per minute), and myself doesn't like tactile bump thou. i frequently use Black, if Red is available, i`ll happy to switch to Red switch.

Btw, here's a Mechanical Keyboard Guide.
http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-...oard-guide.html

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Dec 31 2010, 03:54 AM

hey moggle, just for updating, the fullsize keyboard might develope in futher to have media key as well as windows lock key, but it's not confirm yet because they currently are in discussion.

To much of my surprise, for Leopold Keycap quality, it is very very siiliar to Steelseries 7G, as it's from the same manufacturer.

i had try my friends 6Gv2, the keycaps are indeed thinner than 7G.

Both 7G and Leopold FC200R keycaps has the same thickness. Leopold seems to be using a new laser imprinting mephod. And one important thing would be lettering does not become yellow like my 7G.

As for ducky, I've tried multiple keys comparison and found out that Ducky Keycaps certain keys does not have the same thickness as other keycaps.

For comparison on Ducky Keycaps, pull out your ESC and your ASDW Keycaps and compare, ESC are somewhat more thin.

Well, i only have Ducky DK9008 Black on Black Key caps. so i'm doing comparisons based on DK9008.
you mean 7G Keycap printing method? well, i personally hate it as well because it becomes yellow over certain usage.
Leopold on the other hand, still shows no sign of yellowyish, but currently, i'm still using the keyboard for only 1 week, i'll update more if anything changed.

For pictures, i apologize as i'm currently unable to update more pictures, because currently my computer got buttsecks by zeus lightning and psu, mobo, and possible other hardware parts, gone.

well, yeah, i have to agree with jasmineivan.

for alphabets, i don't really mind if it's blank, but the problem is with all those symbols, i gonna have a nightmare remembering their them. i only remember some, but those symbols on Shift+1~9 , i still have some difficulties remembering them.

have some patient, i think it will be available soon.

They're currently being mass manufactured in China.

Currently, The tenkeyless version are being manufactured in Taiwan, and the full version keyboard(included with Cherry MX Red Key) are manufactured in China.

From what i heard, Leopold Keyboard quality check are very strict, as i check for more information, i found out that the Leopold Keyboard Tenkeyless version that i`m using right now, The keycaps are basically manufactured by Datacomp which is the same manufacturer as SteelSeries 7G and 6Gv2.

Thou i can't confirm that the factory that they produce the keycaps are the same factory, what i`m really surprise with the keycap quality difference between Leopold Keyboard tenkeyless and Steelseries 6Gv2. (which they are being manufactured by DataComp this recently)

The person that incharge in meeting me and have a discussion with me has traveled to China, to have quality check on those keyboard.

So as soon as stocks arrive, i'll be posting more informations and pictures. And also with the possibility that i could bring some keyboard stocks in Malaysia so you guys can purchase them.

atleast a certain thickness will indicates they are not trying to cut cost or reduce anything that have effects over the keyboard's overall quality, that's how i sees a product. At least they are very picky on quality even as little as keycap's thickness, So.. in my view, their pickiness is good

from what i heard, the full version of Leopold Keyboard will be a little slightly expensive than the Leopold Tenkeyless, which will still be under RM400, but i still can't confirm the price.
But as he said The keyboard will only slightly expensive than the tenkeyless version because the full size keyboard are being manufactured at China which will have less labour cost compared to Taiwan.

And Keycaps molding will have a minor different between Tenkeyless(made in Taiwan) and Full size(made in China).
The differences would be the Top side of the keycap.
If you noticed, Tenkeyless Leopold Keyboard, the top side of the Keycap have a minor Cut Mark, because of the molding technique that the Taiwan manufacturer use.

But for the fullsize Leopold Keyboard, The keycap will be made by a different molding technique, the cut mark will be on the under edge of keycaps, so you won't be able to notice it easily as the tenkeyless version.

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Jan 12 2011, 08:55 PM

tenkeyless, if i remembered last time they did mention RM335, but i think would be at this price or slightly cheaper.

Thou i can't confirm, i personally hope tenkeyless would be around RM300~330, and full keyboard to be around RM340~380. i can only say it won't be above RM400.
But currently can't get the exact pricing as they still didn't announce the price tag for fullsize keyboard. Because the keyboard is still in production.

Today i've received a e-mail which they inform me the keyboard production are being successful. So it's a matter of time that i will receive a sample as well as receive more information as well as pricing information.

Yes, i have to agree that ducky has very good keyboard. i mean the Ducky DK-9008.

I've talk to Leopold, and they expressed some interest and will study the product and add it's feature in future keyboard.

Korea

There's a MY switch as well as a ML switch, thou i think there's alot more, but i don't research them thou, only knows MX switch

hmm.. moogle, about the second one double shot key that you mention earlier.

i prefer something like this, which is white colour keycaps with black double shot.


is this something available of similar?

This post has been edited by Cyclonechuah: Jan 15 2011, 09:21 PM

for Keycaps, you don't really need to worry as long as the keycaps are designed for Cherry MX switches. there's no difference in size and shape.

The only thing that you will be worry for fitting would be the larger keycaps such as space, enter, shift. because some tends to use different stabilizer. and might not fit the keyboard.

Well, it really depends thou, but if you're changing the middle part(top to bottom as middle), the profiles won't be having a very big difference.

For Key Profiles to have big difference would be the top part(F1~F12, etc) and the bottom part(CTRL, ALT, Space, etc) where the key profiles have higher and lower difference, such as Cherry Keyboard and Filco Keyboard Difference.

Blueberry got his Blackwidow from Gosu Games, which is a free keyboard =D.

But anyway, Some people may find Cherry MX blue switch are much more comfortable to type if compared with Cherry MX Black Despite the sound .

Anyway, For RTS games, i don't think BlackWidow is gonna be causing any kind of problem at all.

hello, welcome to mechanical keyboard, thou you can see above my post, that some one has kindly link the Gaming Keyboard thread for you to ask your questions.

If you interested in Mechanical Keyboard, you can kindly read this thread first post or this link http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-...oard-guide.html which has all the informations about mechanical keyboard.