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 Acer TimelineX 3820TG & 4820TG, Owners and visitors discussion

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SUSngkhanmein
post May 12 2011, 11:22 AM

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i also din play.. not suitable for old guys like me 2.. ur card is 5650 can flash 6550 meh?
using vlc very dangerous leh.. volume set too high can blast ur speaker.. careful with vlc bro..
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post May 12 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 12 2011, 11:22 AM)
i also din play.. not suitable for old guys like me 2.. ur card is 5650 can flash 6550 meh?
using vlc very dangerous leh.. volume set too high can blast ur speaker.. careful with vlc bro..
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can flash to 6550? hmm, think cannot but instead, just using it's vbios profile.. i dont really understand actually.. kizwan is the expert here biggrin.gif

about vlc, ya, i experienced that too...

now, experimenting with encoding... but seem slow... even with GPU hardware enabled, may be sifu lee can share his encoding speed also? coz he has firepro driver... may be different...
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post May 12 2011, 11:37 AM

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i heard got some software error with adjusting brightness is it true? i found out 5650 normal nia.. quite low entry card.. no much offering like.. unlike 540.. i never tried nvidia card b4 on laptop dunno good a not.. ati more simple for me.. nvidia quite complicated.. 1 thing i learn from my mum.. if the thing cheap go change better parts on the thing it will become worst.. i think new driver is for 6 series card & above card.. not for us purposely..

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post May 12 2011, 11:39 AM

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actually, i still think my 5650 is better than 540M hehehehe

but please dont discuss this outside of this thread LOL
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post May 12 2011, 11:46 AM

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lol.. i wont lah.. since u mentioned.. later i got help need ask u.. u hate me dun1 tel me.. cry.gif

yameh? but i think not much different.. processor higher got different nia.. card to me all like the same.. 540 play ssf4 like worst than us leh.. depend the game manufacture using what brand nia.. if play dirt 2.. seriously nvidia play better leh.. but ssf4 is under nvidia.. i found out ati got better quality than nvidia.. i use my eyes compare lah.. dunno boleh harap a not.. icon_idea.gif
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post May 12 2011, 12:20 PM

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i tried to encode with all TrueTheater option on... but it became super slow! need a few hours to encode a movie to iPad!

so, i disable all of them, then enable both Encode and Decode hardware... can now see my ATI GPU constantly at 50%-60% utilization thumbup.gif

however, it still take a long time!

File: AVI
Res: 720x554
size: 932MB
Duration: 46 m 38 sec!

why so slow de? only need to encode to iPad... the encoded file became 2gb sad.gif
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post May 12 2011, 12:27 PM

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bro.. y my gpu utilization always 100% leh each times i play pes11?? is it normal mean i can't OC lo? if OC my utilization can get 200%?
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hmm, didn't have MediaEspresso to test..
Later I try to get it, trial version should be enough ?

QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ May 12 2011, 12:27 PM)
bro.. y my gpu utilization always 100% leh each times i play pes11?? is it normal mean i can't OC lo? if OC my utilization can get 200%?
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Why shouldn't it be 100% ? Since you are playing games and its using your GPU.
It doesn't have any relationship with can OC or can't OC.
Even if you overclock, the utilization will still max at 100% only. Since the limit has been raised.

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post May 12 2011, 12:34 PM

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OHH.. faham sifu.. thanks.. worried ma..
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post May 12 2011, 03:52 PM

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any never modded GPU + Intel Driver release? Mine is 11.3 CCC i think.

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post May 12 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ May 12 2011, 12:29 PM)
hmm, didn't have MediaEspresso to test..
Later I try to get it, trial version should be enough ?
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You can google it. Someone nice enough shared it. tongue.gif I can't post the link here but you can easily find it. I'm just using it for testing the ATI Stream processor.

EDIT: BTW, I chose the .mkv file because I found the MediaEspresso decode the video first, then encode it.
  1. Complete name : [HorribleSubs]_Naruto_Shippuuden_-_210_[480p].mkv
    Format : Matroska
    File size : 145 MiB
    Duration : 23mn 9s
    GPU: ATI Radeon HD4570 (hardware decoding only)
    Convert: For PSP
    1. Without hardware decoding:-
      user posted image
    2. With hardware decoding (GPU load 14% to 17%):-
      user posted image
      user posted image
  2. Complete name : [HorribleSubs]_Naruto_Shippuuden_-_210_[480p].mkv
    Format : Matroska
    File size : 145 MiB
    Duration : 23mn 9s
    GPU: Nvidia GeForce GT335M
    Convert: For PSP
    1. Without hardware encoding & decoding:-
      user posted image
    2. With hardware encoding & decoding (GPU load max 74%):-
      user posted image
      user posted image
I noticed it takes longer time converting the same video on my Asus. Probably because it has less processing power (processor) than Dell.

My crippled HD4570 still using 10.11 driver because it is the best driver for it. I only updated the Catalyst Control Center. I know WEI (Windows Experience Index) doesn't show true performance but Graphic score reduced from 5.1 to 5.0 with 11.1, 11.3 & 11.4. It reduced more to 4.9 with 11.5.
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post May 12 2011, 05:07 PM

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really? WEI can be trusted a not bang? u pun tau horriblesubs.. u convert mk4 > mp4?
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post May 12 2011, 07:27 PM

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nice kizwan. i downloaded the same file, tried convert using my notebook:

No hardware acc: 6:15 minutes
Hardware Decode only: 5:17 minutes
Hardware Encode only: 3:23 minutes

Really got improvement... up to 50%!

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post May 12 2011, 08:00 PM

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That takes longer than mine. I forgot to mention that I convert the video for PSP. How long it take if you enable both hardware encoding & hardware decoding?

EDIT: BTW, I chose the .mkv file because I found the MediaEspresso decode the video first, then encode it.

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post May 12 2011, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ May 12 2011, 08:00 PM)
That takes longer than mine. I forgot to mention that I convert the video for PSP. How long it take if you enable both hardware encoding & hardware decoding?
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I was encoding for iPad... i ll test with PSP. will try all again laugh.gif
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post May 12 2011, 08:04 PM

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Still not yet finish downloading Espresso...
Result later tongue.gif
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post May 12 2011, 08:05 PM

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OK, now result for encoding to PSP:

No hardware acceleration: 4:09 (aik! my processor so slow? may be too many background process? i m working on a couple of stuff)
Encode + Decode hardware: 2:11
Encode only: 2:40
Decode only: 3:13

more result coming...

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post May 12 2011, 08:09 PM

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That's more like it.
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post May 12 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ May 12 2011, 08:09 PM)
That's more like it.
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I just noticed! You using Quad Core! that's explain why you no hardware is better.... thumbup.gif

Waiting for sifu lee's result... (dont know if Firepro has better advantage...)

Wonder how much better it gets if OC! laugh.gif

Pushed my card to 774/1113, best encoding time (full hardware): 2:10 ... no improvement de?

Pushed my CPU to 3.3Ghz, best encoding time (full hardware, no GPU oc): 2:04

CPU at 3.3Ghz, GPU at 774/1113, best time: 2:01 :/

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post May 12 2011, 09:58 PM

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Sorry, don't have the naruto file to test with..
So, I'm testing with this with AMD 11.5 driver and there is AMD Radeon logo on MediaEspresso..
Complete name : [gg]_Ao_no_Exorcist_-_01_[61027A40].mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 256 MiB
Duration : 24mn 15s

Without hardware encoding/decoding
user posted image


With hardware decoding, GPU usage is 12%-13%
user posted image

With hardware decoding & OC, GPU usage is 12%-13%
user posted image

The hardware encoding option is greyed out ?

This post has been edited by lee_what2004: May 12 2011, 09:58 PM

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