haha yea la. extra step there.
Acer TimelineX 3820TG & 4820TG, Owners and visitors discussion
Acer TimelineX 3820TG & 4820TG, Owners and visitors discussion
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Mar 3 2011, 11:19 PM
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haha yea la. extra step there.
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Mar 3 2011, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Mar 3 2011, 10:56 PM) ok so i've seen from here that it's not possible to manage/resize/delete/create partitions when doing a recovery from the recovery partition/recovery dvd right? You can resize your partition without reinstalling windows. Just shrink it in Disk Manager.It's only possible to mess with the partition when installing windows from a normal windows boot cd aka pirated or generic ones bought from outside right? So if I install from the normal windows CD, does acer provide a CD with drivers? not necessary the latest but usable ones. If you still have the default factory image in your hardisk, all the driver you need is inside C:\OEM directory. It's hidden so you need to enable viewing of hidden files in Explorer. Just copy that folder out somewhere and use it after do you a fresh install. |
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Mar 3 2011, 11:52 PM
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ok, I believe the drivers/power apps that comes or is pre-installed in the laptop is the version as of when the laptop was manufactured.
obviously I would need to download them if I want the latest ones. So does acer website provides the drivers and apps in a single package (ie. a single exe file with all the drivers in it) or do I have to download one for ethernet, one for sound, one for intel gfx, one for ATI, another one for those power management stuffs? |
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Mar 3 2011, 11:54 PM
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^you need to download one by one...
p/s Finally ! http://forum.notebookreview.com/7214705-post9986.html |
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Mar 3 2011, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Mar 3 2011, 11:52 PM) ok, I believe the drivers/power apps that comes or is pre-installed in the laptop is the version as of when the laptop was manufactured. You'll have to download them one by one... but if you just brought your notebook, chances are your driver is up-to-date. You can compare the version with the one on www.acer.com.my (they have new interface obviously I would need to download them if I want the latest ones. So does acer website provides the drivers and apps in a single package (ie. a single exe file with all the drivers in it) or do I have to download one for ethernet, one for sound, one for intel gfx, one for ATI, another one for those power management stuffs? I suspect the only driver you need to download is the graphic driver, which release on Jan 2011. All others dated as old as Mar 2010... Acer is lazy when it comes to driver update... |
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Mar 3 2011, 11:57 PM
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anyway, this switchable graphics is similar to the one found in macbooks right? So how does it really works? Battery : auto switches to intel. but will it change to ATI seamlessly if the need for power arises? Plugged in : permanently on ATI? |
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Mar 3 2011, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Mar 3 2011, 11:54 PM) ^you need to download one by one... that was a good post! i ve never really play around much with the Intel menu although I have unlock it. There is also a post to add PCI-E to 3820tg...p/s Finally ! http://forum.notebookreview.com/7214705-post9986.html |
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Mar 3 2011, 11:59 PM
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Mar 3 2011, 11:56 PM) You'll have to download them one by one... but if you just brought your notebook, chances are your driver is up-to-date. You can compare the version with the one on www.acer.com.my (they have new interface Not only Acer is lazy, others also I suspect the only driver you need to download is the graphic driver, which release on Jan 2011. All others dated as old as Mar 2010... Acer is lazy when it comes to driver update... QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Mar 3 2011, 11:57 PM) anyway, this switchable graphics is similar to the one found in macbooks right? So how does it really works? Battery : auto switches to intel. but will it change to ATI seamlessly if the need for power arises? Plugged in : permanently on ATI? and you need to switch it your own, either right click on the desktop and switch or press the P button on battery mode or use hotkey to change the GPU.. |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:02 AM
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so regardless of whether battery or plugged in, it will not be smart enough to switch for me? so for example....before i fire up photoshop, i gotta switch to ati first.
however, is the power management app smart enough to detect whether it's on battery and plugged in? will it change to intel for battery and ati for plugged in on boot up? |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:06 AM
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Yup, its a manual switch...
Macbook Pro way is different since its being handled by the Mac OSX itself... Boot up will always ATi? |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Mar 4 2011, 12:06 AM) Yup, its a manual switch... oooohh...now i get it. So it will always use ATI to boot up regardless of batt or plugged in.Macbook Pro way is different since its being handled by the Mac OSX itself... Boot up will always ATi? After login in, power app will detect and switch to intel if it's on battery or leave it in ati if plugged in. correct? That is why they do this in bios to make it boot up with intel - http://forum.notebookreview.com/7214705-post9986.html correct? |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:13 AM
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Not really sure, better wait for cowithgun confirmation
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Mar 4 2011, 12:23 AM
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oh...and what's the difference between 3820TG/4820TG and 3820T/4820T?
edit : any other difference besides T only has intel gfx while TG has switchable intel and ati. This post has been edited by fisherman10: Mar 4 2011, 12:24 AM |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:25 AM
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The T series only got 1 fan for 3820..
4820, no difference except the GPU, maybe shorter heatsink .. This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Mar 4 2011, 12:27 AM |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Mar 4 2011, 12:13 AM) was off watching "The Universe" documentary...the switching of graphic can be done manually by right clicking on desktop. but if you have PowerSmart installed (which is default), it will automatically switch to ATI when you connect to AC. and it will automatically switch to Intel in battery. that graphic card will be used even after you restart... say, you use Intel, restart, it will still be intel. but say, you use intel, shutdown, connect to AC, reboot, during boot, it will use Intel, but after you login (after PowerSmart loaded), it will flicker and change to ATI. however, if you do clean format, no longer install the PowerSmart, it will no longer automatically switch for you. so, if i use ATI, reboot, regardless if i use battery or AC, it will continue to use ATI until i manually switch it This post has been edited by cowithgun: Mar 4 2011, 12:27 AM |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:32 AM
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hmmm.....if that's the case, then why is there a need to choose Intel only via bios? http://forum.notebookreview.com/7214705-post9986.html considering that fact that if u uninstall powersmart, it'll stay on intel until u change it.
also instead of doing it in the hidden intel menu, how about changing from switchable to discreet from here? http://www.imagebam.com/image/fae0a982795979 Common issues and solutions Poor 3d performance / PCI-E runs at only x1 not x16. Installing the latest ATI Catalyst drives fixes this. See below: QUOTE Installing the latest ATI 5650 catalyst drivers. First make sure you install the stock Acer ATI vga driver. And then Intel HD Graphics driver. Then go into the systems bios (F2 on boot) and set the vga mode to discrete in the second screen. (See screenshot below) Install the newest ATI driver over the top of the existing and then reboot the notebook. Go back into the bios and change the options back to switchable. |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:34 AM
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Switchable to discrete means only ATi, they want it to run the integrated, Intel...
As for bios hack, maybe can ensure the GPU fan completely off ? This post has been edited by lee_what2004: Mar 4 2011, 12:34 AM |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Mar 4 2011, 12:34 AM) Switchable to discrete means only ATi, they want it to run the integrated, Intel... ahh i see. sorry sorry. I thought discreet is intel.As for bios hack, maybe can ensure the GPU fan completely off ? cowithgun can confirm about the gpu fan? will gpu fan continuously on if I just switch from the P button? if disable from bios, gpu fan off? |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(fisherman10 @ Mar 4 2011, 12:32 AM) hmmm.....if that's the case, then why is there a need to choose Intel only via bios? http://forum.notebookreview.com/7214705-post9986.html considering that fact that if u uninstall powersmart, it'll stay on intel until u change it. I am also not sure why there is need to make it Intel only. Right now, I am not using PowerSmart, and if I switch to Intel, after reboot, it will still be Intel. No flicker of screen during login too, indicating that it was never using ATI (i believe).also instead of doing it in the hidden intel menu, how about changing from switchable to discreet from here? http://www.imagebam.com/image/fae0a982795979 Common issues and solutions Poor 3d performance / PCI-E runs at only x1 not x16. Installing the latest ATI Catalyst drives fixes this. See below: Changing it to Discrete mean only ATI will be running, no more Intel. Forget about the PCI-E x1, it was old issue, no longer relevant. |
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Mar 4 2011, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Mar 4 2011, 12:37 AM) I am also not sure why there is need to make it Intel only. Right now, I am not using PowerSmart, and if I switch to Intel, after reboot, it will still be Intel. No flicker of screen during login too, indicating that it was never using ATI (i believe). cowithgun can confirm about the gpu fan? will gpu fan continuously on if I just switch from the P button?Changing it to Discrete mean only ATI will be running, no more Intel. Forget about the PCI-E x1, it was old issue, no longer relevant. if disable from bios, gpu fan off? does speedfan work with this acer? or like some ati catalyst app or etc? can see the fan speed from there right? This post has been edited by fisherman10: Mar 4 2011, 12:41 AM |
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