maybe u can stop whey intake after your last bottle.

here's why : http://stronglifts.com/milk-post-workout-build-muscle-gains/

Who drink whey in this country?

So drink one carton of HL milk after workout is better?

yea, mayb u should realise there ARE lactose intolerant ppl out there.

what do u mean?? many bodybuilders here taking whey/gainer what?

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Added on October 18, 2010, 10:41 pmsorry for those who r lactose intolerant

This post has been edited by law1777: Oct 18 2010, 10:41 PM

So you have lactose intolerance, this means you can't drink milk. WRONG!

Ever hear of Lactaid? If you haven't click here to learn more. Lactaid is milk that doesn't have any lactose in it, so you can drink it without any problems. You can also buy lactase droplets or tablets, and then put them into your milk.

No more excuses now, go buy some milk.
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lmao? then after workout need drink how many ml of milks then? i'm 70kg LMAO

losing weight doesnt mean u will lose bodyfat.. but losing weight also = losing muscle mass but not losing bodyfat. so losing bodyfat is the most important and not your weight!!

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Added on October 18, 2010, 10:54 pmtell this to janson

This post has been edited by law1777: Oct 18 2010, 10:54 PM

That's the idea of myofusion and syntha-6

Whoever want to drink whey, go ahead la. Wanna drink milk, who's stopping U ? Must we force other ppl to do what we do or think is right ? Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Take care of Urself, U know what works for U & Ur pocket.

nitrocore n syntha6 for me.. but after taken especially at night the skin of my face dried out and redden on chin area. doctor said my blood too hot already

Takin any creatine, fat burner?

This post has been edited by arekey: Oct 19 2010, 02:22 PM

there is such things as blood too hot ? lolz....maybe thick blood yes

Maybe allergy?

ive been training for almost 5months now.. first 3 months i had whey + fat burner and my facial skin is normal never dry n redden.. after one night took in casein and then proteinblends the skin never recover until i stopped proteinblends and apply healing cream.

Sound like allergy reaction.

is this refering condensed milk?
how about powder milk?

This post has been edited by dell7: Oct 19 2010, 05:57 PM

Fresh milk.

all types of milk made by fresh milk only

i'm not sure how many lactose intolerant ppl out there are willing to take lactaid just to drink milk. I am not dismissing the benefits of milk, but to ask everyone to stop drinking whey n go for milk is abit premature. it's a solution to take lactaid but whether it's practical or not i'm not quite sure.

how much is lactaid?

no one is asking everyone to stop. firstly i said MAYBE.. and this janson bro u quoted he did not say anything about stop taking whey =)

chill man!!

How bout Whey Protein + Milk = Dual Win

20mins PRIMEtime after workout u can go pure whey. after cardio best best is pure whole milk!!!

I was taking milk with my pwo shakes on and off for the past 2 years. sadly enough, i turned lactose intolerant this year(it took me months to figure out that milk was the cause of the extreme gassiness and pains I was getting).

Switched to soy ever since.. But yeah, milk post workout is amazing. With whey, it gives a nice texture and creamy taste adding on the all the nutritional benefits.

sorry to know that. but no soy for me thanks. i don wan manboobs and woman's hormone in me growing

you seem to do a bit of reading on health and fitness right?

so please dont insult you're knowledge by affirming this rubbish myth. read about it.

tried downing 500ml of hl milk post workout..ended up ruining my dinner time coz too bloated...

adjust to your own appetite. dont follow the rules

Even 250ml can cause me bloat. Can only drink in a very small amount each time.
But having 6 meals a day now, normally after the 5th meal, feel darn bloated already.
I think the culprit is the dairy products such whey and milk.

Bro, where'd you read up about the soy thing? I'm trying to figure out the problem lies with over processing + GM soy is the culprit for those manboobs thing.

Aha! Crankiness. First sign of excessive estrogen!
No just kidding, but it's not exactly soy, on itself that causes all these issues. It's the processing, The hexagen, the emulsifier, the heavy metals involved while processing, the usage of sugar (soy, on itself, doesn't need sugar to be sweet. My mom makes soya juice at home. Pretty sweet on itself) so it kinda made me stay off soy. Unless of course, it's from my mom's kitchen.

How bout nutrilite's soy based protein? Any of the problems you mentioned? Coz i'm actually taking that now post-workout.

1. I do not condone the usage of MLM products whether Amway or Nutrilite or Uptrend or Elken or whatever the heck these companies are naming themselves right now because you're actually paying for the marketing, the referrals, the down lines before you get the final product. No matter what they say about how stringent their manufacturing process is, I do NOT believe them, because all companies are out there to make a profit out of the ridiculously lucrative health market, especially not one which company's main income comes from registering new members.

2. Between soy and milk and protein shakes and a piece of steak, I'll choose the shake and then the steak. Fast digesting protein, followed by high amino acid and healthy grass fed beef. Soy's just too expensive because of the lack of quantity (if compared against whey) thus resulting in inefficient E.O.S., and milk is just ridiculously fcuking expensive in Malaysia it turns retarded to drink milk.

3. Soy based protein, is the extraction of the protein from the bean. Why the devil do you want to go through the trouble of squeezing tiny bits of protein, out of a bloody seed, when you can get tonnes more out of the deposits of milk after cheese has been processed in the form of whey? Whey's a byproduct. Soy based protein, ISN'T. Byproduct=Cheap. Main product=Not cheap.

Conclusion? If you don't have some sort of allergy to whey protein, go with the whey protein you see out there. Between you and me, the bulk of whey this world uses, comes from New Zealand, US and IIRC, Netherlands. And c'mon, please....don't be suckered by MLM companies. I've joined one before, and upon studying the business model further and looking beyond the motivational speakers, they still propagate one thing. SELL THE MEMBERSHIP, SO THEY CAN BUY OVERPRICED SUPPLEMENTS FROM US!

Honestly...mass production kills quality. For truly high quality products, rear a cow, feed it, go milk the cow's nipples. I'm giving you two extremes. You'll just have to stick in the middle path.

Thanks for the info there pizzaboy, was really wondering for a long time what the difference would be between regular whey protein and soy protein. Cause they both (on the labels at least ) claim to have 8 grams of protein per 10 grams serving. So i figured the difference is maybe in terms of how fast it is absorbed by our body.

And it is ridiculously expensive as well. Think i'm going to switch to whey after my last bottle of soy protein

i like to drink milk and whey...i can drink 1litre HL milk just for d bfast.

In my years of working in the fitness industry, I've found one thing is consistent. When a new product launches, everybody thinks it's better than the last. That's the most retarded statement in the universe. Not only is this industry unregulated which makes new product claims, rather difficult or bodies just don't care about analyzing and deciphering the truth in the statements, it's also full of bullshi*t. It isn't about what coaches like myself say, it's about what they market the product to be, and how people believe in it that matters.

So don't get suckered into this whole marketing lies. Get a pro to tell you the truth from the lies. And no, a nutritionist ain't the pro. I actually listened to a sports nutritionist once say that he didn't wanna have too much protein because it would kill his liver. I was about 1 inch away from stabbing his liver and telling him, a knife would do the job quicker.

yea each person are diff ...but i tried to finish 1lit of HL a day ..either morning i take half of it or b4 sleep ...and the other half post workout which doesnt really suits me...

big diff in biological value. If u want to replace whey post-wo, go for egg whites


Chow

Till this very day, there isn't evidence that I have found which clearly states that a high protein diet is bad for you.

ko noob giler sial....milk itupun ada whey kat dalam...go n get ur facts right....milk aso 90%casein n 10% whey

Check the labels and you'll most probably find sugar.
And it's processed soy protein, it's not grounded soy powder.
Soy protein = extraction and processing to get the protein only. <-- this is cut-throat.
Grounded soy powder = soy beans are grounded down to powder form. Protein content is not as concentrated as it still contain some fibre and other stuff that the beans have. <-- this is pretty inexpensive.

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Added on October 23, 2010, 4:00 pmwhen I grow up, imma be the bestest sports nutritionist that doesn't say protein kills your kidney/liver/brain.

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Added on October 23, 2010, 4:02 pmToo much protein will make your kidneys go 'pop'. My sports liew-treesyenist and loctor say one.

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Added on October 23, 2010, 4:06 pmWhat's hexagen? You mean hexane?
You'd be surprised by how widespread hexane is used as the solvent to extract things (oils mostly) out of food.
Still wanna eat those soy and canola oil?

This post has been edited by iamyuanwu: Oct 23 2010, 04:13 PM

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/096708975...?_encoding=UTF8

Read this book to share your testicles off soy forever.

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Added on October 25, 2010, 4:08 pmdammit i meant "scare"

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Oct 25 2010, 04:08 PM

Hi, just curious,

So if one were to buy a soy milk drink, or low fat milk like HL, or a tub of Whey, it would be better to get Whey as a regular drink?

Thanks.

I've been blending my protein with milk all the while @@"

3 times a day. Sounds not good right??

me, I've been blending mine with egg, milk and casein all this while..

milk byk lemak, boncit kang

excuse me boss we can choose skimmed milk

Skimmed milk also good.. The cheapest one just using Tesco skimmed milk..
Any other brand of skimmed milk apart from Tesco and Sunlac?

Milk fat provides some of the more important minerals and vitamins in milk. By drinking skimmed milk, you're choosing to not enjoy the benefits of fat. Also, fat provides the necessary calories for recovery, and slows down absorption of the proteins in milk, which also makes it very beneficial to drink before sleeping. Having said that, fat also makes the milk taste better. Thus why would you want to avoid consuming fat in milk?

Here's the general idea. If it came from mother nature, don't disturb it. Consume it whole and derive it's benefits. If it came from humans, it's best to avoid it. Pop tarts, snickers, oreos, baskin robbins, yeah good choices to avoid. Whole milk, nope.

A lot of milk in the market are not purely fresh, it do contain some chemical ingredient after the processing which is bad for our health, bear in mind with that. Just my 2 cents.

All milk in the market are reconstituted milk (from powder)... unless it is stated 'fresh milk'.

No, it's not a conspiracy or what not, it's simple economics... it's too crazy expensive to transport liquid milk from NZ to Msia. Would you pay RM 30 for 1L of fresh milk from NZ?

And no, they do not contain chemical ingredient. Why spend money to buy chemicals for processing when they don't need chemicals?