how much is lactaid?

no one is asking everyone to stop. firstly i said MAYBE.. and this janson bro u quoted he did not say anything about stop taking whey =)

chill man!!

How bout Whey Protein + Milk = Dual Win

20mins PRIMEtime after workout u can go pure whey. after cardio best best is pure whole milk!!!

I was taking milk with my pwo shakes on and off for the past 2 years. sadly enough, i turned lactose intolerant this year(it took me months to figure out that milk was the cause of the extreme gassiness and pains I was getting).

Switched to soy ever since.. But yeah, milk post workout is amazing. With whey, it gives a nice texture and creamy taste adding on the all the nutritional benefits.

sorry to know that. but no soy for me thanks. i don wan manboobs and woman's hormone in me growing

you seem to do a bit of reading on health and fitness right?

so please dont insult you're knowledge by affirming this rubbish myth. read about it.

tried downing 500ml of hl milk post workout..ended up ruining my dinner time coz too bloated...

adjust to your own appetite. dont follow the rules

Even 250ml can cause me bloat. Can only drink in a very small amount each time.
But having 6 meals a day now, normally after the 5th meal, feel darn bloated already.
I think the culprit is the dairy products such whey and milk.

Bro, where'd you read up about the soy thing? I'm trying to figure out the problem lies with over processing + GM soy is the culprit for those manboobs thing.

Aha! Crankiness. First sign of excessive estrogen!
No just kidding, but it's not exactly soy, on itself that causes all these issues. It's the processing, The hexagen, the emulsifier, the heavy metals involved while processing, the usage of sugar (soy, on itself, doesn't need sugar to be sweet. My mom makes soya juice at home. Pretty sweet on itself) so it kinda made me stay off soy. Unless of course, it's from my mom's kitchen.

How bout nutrilite's soy based protein? Any of the problems you mentioned? Coz i'm actually taking that now post-workout.

1. I do not condone the usage of MLM products whether Amway or Nutrilite or Uptrend or Elken or whatever the heck these companies are naming themselves right now because you're actually paying for the marketing, the referrals, the down lines before you get the final product. No matter what they say about how stringent their manufacturing process is, I do NOT believe them, because all companies are out there to make a profit out of the ridiculously lucrative health market, especially not one which company's main income comes from registering new members.

2. Between soy and milk and protein shakes and a piece of steak, I'll choose the shake and then the steak. Fast digesting protein, followed by high amino acid and healthy grass fed beef. Soy's just too expensive because of the lack of quantity (if compared against whey) thus resulting in inefficient E.O.S., and milk is just ridiculously fcuking expensive in Malaysia it turns retarded to drink milk.

3. Soy based protein, is the extraction of the protein from the bean. Why the devil do you want to go through the trouble of squeezing tiny bits of protein, out of a bloody seed, when you can get tonnes more out of the deposits of milk after cheese has been processed in the form of whey? Whey's a byproduct. Soy based protein, ISN'T. Byproduct=Cheap. Main product=Not cheap.

Conclusion? If you don't have some sort of allergy to whey protein, go with the whey protein you see out there. Between you and me, the bulk of whey this world uses, comes from New Zealand, US and IIRC, Netherlands. And c'mon, please....don't be suckered by MLM companies. I've joined one before, and upon studying the business model further and looking beyond the motivational speakers, they still propagate one thing. SELL THE MEMBERSHIP, SO THEY CAN BUY OVERPRICED SUPPLEMENTS FROM US!

Honestly...mass production kills quality. For truly high quality products, rear a cow, feed it, go milk the cow's nipples. I'm giving you two extremes. You'll just have to stick in the middle path.

Thanks for the info there pizzaboy, was really wondering for a long time what the difference would be between regular whey protein and soy protein. Cause they both (on the labels at least ) claim to have 8 grams of protein per 10 grams serving. So i figured the difference is maybe in terms of how fast it is absorbed by our body.

And it is ridiculously expensive as well. Think i'm going to switch to whey after my last bottle of soy protein

i like to drink milk and whey...i can drink 1litre HL milk just for d bfast.

In my years of working in the fitness industry, I've found one thing is consistent. When a new product launches, everybody thinks it's better than the last. That's the most retarded statement in the universe. Not only is this industry unregulated which makes new product claims, rather difficult or bodies just don't care about analyzing and deciphering the truth in the statements, it's also full of bullshi*t. It isn't about what coaches like myself say, it's about what they market the product to be, and how people believe in it that matters.

So don't get suckered into this whole marketing lies. Get a pro to tell you the truth from the lies. And no, a nutritionist ain't the pro. I actually listened to a sports nutritionist once say that he didn't wanna have too much protein because it would kill his liver. I was about 1 inch away from stabbing his liver and telling him, a knife would do the job quicker.

yea each person are diff ...but i tried to finish 1lit of HL a day ..either morning i take half of it or b4 sleep ...and the other half post workout which doesnt really suits me...

big diff in biological value. If u want to replace whey post-wo, go for egg whites


Chow

Till this very day, there isn't evidence that I have found which clearly states that a high protein diet is bad for you.