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post Oct 11 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:19 PM)
i think we should record the video of the bus speeding and post it in youtube biggrin.gif

but of coz, using a camera mounting on our head biggrin.gif
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JPJ said JANGAN

where the hell is that links.....

ps: who cares, for the sake of mob justices
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:18 PM)
Huh.....

Motorways are for speed of 110 km/h.

Not for 60 km/h.

Even federal roads has speed of 90 km/h in some stretches.

In Japan, highway is called as "Kosoku doro", kosoku means high speed.
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well our driving ethics not the same as the japs...we have 3rd world drivers here...but my main concern is the number of casualty each time accident occur...
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 11 2010, 03:21 PM)
well our driving ethics not the same as the japs...we have 3rd world drivers here...but my main concern is the number of casualty each time accident occur...
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If everything is 60 km/h, might as well drive on federal road.

The serious consequence of your idea...

Max speed 60 km/h, average speed most likely 45 km/h for example...

That would mean KL to JB (around 320 km lets say).... will take about 7 hours!
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:18 PM)
Huh.....

Motorways are for speed of 110 km/h.

Not for 60 km/h.

Even federal roads has speed of 90 km/h in some stretches.

In Japan, highway is called as "Kosoku doro", kosoku means high speed.
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they have tonnes of >1000ps mean machines, capable to exceed 300km/h, but they drive with ethique too.. not like us sweat.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:29 PM

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speed limit for busses n lorries to 90kmh max

i think thats reseonable
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 11 2010, 03:28 PM)
they have tonnes of >1000ps mean machines, capable to exceed 300km/h, but they drive with ethique too.. not like us  sweat.gif
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Focus on enforcement and education.

Not by having laws that do not even make sense in terms of function and economics.
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QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 11 2010, 02:52 PM)
Whats needed now is:

1. GPS system
2. Speed limiters
3. Black box
4. Skillful driver
5. Attractive salary / benefits

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most importantly is moral and ethic

not just to bus drivers but to all malaysians

our country people lack of moral and ethics which is the main source of their retardness and attitude problem
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 11 2010, 03:21 PM)
well our driving ethics not the same as the japs...we have 3rd world drivers here...but my main concern is the number of casualty each time accident occur...
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1 way to force malaysian driver to not speeding more than 110 km/h in highway is forcing all the car in malaysia to put a limit of 120 km/h and change the speedometer to 120km/h max...therefore if drive 120km/h rpm already merah...haha thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:26 PM)
If everything is 60 km/h, might as well drive on federal road.

The serious consequence of your idea...

Max speed 60 km/h, average speed most likely 45 km/h for example...

That would mean KL to JB (around 320 km lets say)....  will take about 7 hours!
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well i tried driving from kelantan - kl 22hours ..with multiple stops ...dat is not using northsouth hw ...and driving old charade 600cc...
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 11 2010, 03:31 PM)
well i tried driving from kelantan - kl 22hours ..with multiple stops ...dat is not using northsouth hw ...and driving old charade 600cc...
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Most people (not you) prefer to reach destination in reasonable time and safely.

Also, for bus operation, it is inefficient to have so many stops.

This post has been edited by Kampung2005: Oct 11 2010, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(Revamperz @ Oct 11 2010, 03:29 PM)
speed limit for busses n lorries to 90kmh max

i think thats reseonable
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:29 PM)
Focus on enforcement and education.

Not by having laws that do not even make sense in terms of function and economics.
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agreed, i observed their attitude nod.gif

QUOTE(LiLFreaK @ Oct 11 2010, 03:30 PM)
most importantly is moral and ethic

not just to bus drivers but to all malaysians

our country people lack of moral and ethics which is the main source of their retardness and attitude problem
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its just a recommendations for public serving vehicles, my car capable to hit 280km/h at any point of long stretch, due to concern of safety for own and others, i rarely exceed 100km/h smile.gif
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:21 PM)
JPJ said JANGAN

where the hell is that links.....

ps: who cares, for the sake of mob justices
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one hand hold camera and one hand hold steering of coz cannot.

use head cam biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Perunding @ Oct 11 2010, 03:30 PM)
1 way to force malaysian driver to not speeding more than 110 km/h in highway is forcing all the car in malaysia to put a limit of 120 km/h and change the speedometer to 120km/h max...therefore if drive 120km/h rpm already merah...haha thumbup.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:39 PM

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that's really mindblowing idea biggrin.gif

maybe ask gov to modify tachometer too biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:39 PM

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speed does not kill. reckless driving does.
btw which page can i see the bloody gory pictures?
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(JoLee @ Oct 11 2010, 02:26 PM)
I am sure you all have taken express buses before. If you take the daytime one not so bad because they can't speed. The worse is to take the late afternoon - to evening buses because I think they tend to speed around just after dark so that they want to arrive in KL before midnight. I think there is also less speed trap because police would be breaking for dinner time. The other one is the late night buses which goes without saying speed like mad. You can actually feel the bus swaying and I would say it is a gamble to travel on night buses because I am sure they are doing more than 110 as you can see them overtaking cars.

The southern part is bad because traffic is heavy despite 3 lanes and therefore it is not suprising this happened. Imagine a speeding bus would have a lot of momentum. A lot of you may not realise that the current buses are also to blame because buses like scanias are very powerful. They have a lot of safety features also but it won't stop bad driving. I honestly enjoy taking Maraliner and Transnasional because they are using scania or daewoo and they are fast but it is a gamble that I take to arrive faster.

It is nice to blame the bus drivers but really if you talk to them they have to make the trips and sleep in the bus.  If I am in their shoes I would be speeding too out of boredom. I blame it on the government as compulsory speed limiters and better pay in the industry would solve the problem.

Just to add, some of the bus drivers I spoke to even boasted that he managed to do 160km on a double decker. Whether that is true or not I won't know but I definitely stop taking double deckers. If you have time speak to them as they are nice people too. Sometimes they talk to you if the bus is empty because I suspect they are tired too.

By the way if you take Maraliners there are seat belts. So I guess you won't look stupid now if you use it as the because danger is the roof top shearing off as I believe this is the weakest point in a bus.
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So your suggestion is to use those Old Hino AK and UD?

QUOTE(JoLee @ Oct 11 2010, 02:41 PM)
I think some of the scanias are at least 420hp. Somemore with turbo. He told me tha MAN engines from Germany is more powerful.

I think the Japanese are catching up.
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Scania got 380hp, currently most powerful is 420hp..

QUOTE(Xploit Machine @ Oct 11 2010, 02:52 PM)
Whats needed now is:

1. GPS system
2. Speed limiters
3. Black box
4. Skillful driver
5. Attractive salary / benefits

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:39 PM)
that's really mindblowing idea biggrin.gif

maybe ask gov to modify tachometer too biggrin.gif
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it the only solution for malaysian citizen to be honest. I dont see any other way possible to educate malaysian to drive according to the speed limit in highway
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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ Oct 11 2010, 03:39 PM)
speed does not kill. reckless driving does.
btw which page can i see the bloody gory pictures?
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Added on October 11, 2010, 12:08 pmR.I.P to all the deceased sad.gif

I dont know when these Express bus operators gonna change.
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post Oct 11 2010, 03:45 PM

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Last year, there was serious accident involving an express bus.

This year, again.
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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Oct 11 2010, 03:26 PM)
If everything is 60 km/h, might as well drive on federal road.

The serious consequence of your idea...

Max speed 60 km/h, average speed most likely 45 km/h for example...

That would mean KL to JB (around 320 km lets say)....  will take about 7 hours!
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It'll have no difference from taking train. KTM takes 7 hours as well brows.gif

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