Below 4k? Hmm.

US made is out if you were looking at a DW, the bass drum would be around that price.

If you just want to buy everything else, I would recommend these:

1. Sonor Force 3007 Jungle Kit - RM3000 retail

Its a maple kit, 16" bass drum, 10" rack tom and 14' floor tom. Yes, smaller sized than most kits, but has a nice sound and is ideal for bringing around for gigs and whatnot.

2. Ludwig Epic - RM4090 retail

The most value for money set available in my opinion. Two rack toms and two floor toms with a bass drum and a snare. If you don't want the snare, you can probably sell it off (that's what I did). And you have the hardware in the set already.

3. Pearl Vision - Between RM3-4k depending on wood.

The replacement for the Pearl Exports, but new and improved. The best part about the kit is the Sensitone snare, but if you don't want that, you could sell it and get extra dough for more cymbals or hardware, or new heads.

4. Ddrum Dominion Player - RM3900+ retail
The ash version of this kit comes in a standard 5 piece configuration (two rack toms and a floor tom, along with a bass drum and a snare) without hardware and cymbals. It is a very beautiful kit with the tones to match it.

Of course, there are other kits out there, but these come to mind first. Talk to me more regarding the kits, and I may be able to work out some special prices for you.

In Malaysia, shops don't generally sell kits in pieces, unless you were to make special orders from DW, pearl, tama and the like.

I deal Gibraltar hardware, so talk to me about your budget, then I could work out what would be best for you.

Sir ahh, don't need sir la.

I think you could go for the Pearl Eliminators or the Tama Iron Cobras. Elims are about 1.2k, I believe and the Cobras are about RM1.5k. If you want direct drive, the Gibraltar Intruders are there at about RM1250.

Yeah Depends which one you wanna buy. the Yamaha ones are pretty good too actually, just that I forgot the price.

Cymbals, Meinl MCS. RM950 retail I believe. If you topped up a bit more, you could get a discounted Sabian B8 pack, which is I believe, are the most value for money cymbals in that price range. You could have a look at the Paiste PST5s too.

People would say the speed, but with practice, you can still go as fast with a chain drive as a direct drive pedal. Not many people need to play kicks at 300bpm.

No, there is a difference. Of course, you need the practice, but the differences between chain and direct drive are pretty big.

Some people find that with direct drive, there seems to be less "power" with your kicks.
Direct drive is not necessarily better than chain drive, despite the faster response la. I prefer chain

Yes, the B8s don't necessarily sound nice to you, but performance-wise, they are strong cymbals, and to the crowd, or recorded, they sound decent lah.

Stagg on the other hand, I guess their DH series is value for money lah. But if going for Stagg, might as well buy J Cymbals.


Personally, I have no qualms against the Yamahas, but Elims are just not my thing.
I played a set of Gibraltars in the studio the other day. They ARE nice.

Just saying la, compared to my Cobras

Yes.

Its not so much the power of the pedal, but the "feel" that you have power beneath your feet. A very subjective thing la.

And yes, ZBT is horrible, but better than the Planet Zs and those dreaded Paiste 101s.

2. Depends what sound you're looking for. I'm using Sabian HHXs and AAXs, and I love them to pieces.


Cams affect the sound of your kick. Focused, warm, etc. But of course, tuning and muffling plays a bigger role.

This is the general rule of thumb, but sometimes it depends on the material of the snare as well.

Lots of difference Maple is generally brighter than birch.

My mistake HAHAHAHA! Mixed up

Brass + moongels/E-rings

Metal snares without dampeners tend to be really ringy.


Or, just tune until you find the tone that suits whatever you're playing at the moment. That's where depth comes into play.

Hmmm...... I need ideas for a band competition.

(copied from guitar thread)


We've got to play a two (yes, TWO) minute song, and a five minute song (I'm assuming we'll get through to the semis).

Its not like a regular battle of the bands, seeing as its just going to be for the judges with no crowd. In the semis and the finals there will be a crowd la. For the prelims its just bands. But in the latter stages we'll still be performing for the judges la, no kicking, screaming, moshing, crowd.

They're judging based on confidence, poise, emotion, TECHNICAL ABILITY, yadda yadda. No instrumentals, must be contemporary. (No metal, rap, opera, especially). So no Dream Theater (especially in two minutes), no Paul Gilbert.

Question is, what to play?

IN TWO MINUTES?

We were thinking of doing Song Two by Blur, with a bit of shred in the middle for the TECHNICAL ABILITY part. It IS a fun song la, but I need more ideas. For the five minute one too.

Suggestions? :/

Hmm.. I'll check it out. Thanks. For the five minute one?

For that one we can go ganas a bit more la, more solos, etc.

5 minutes isn't that long lah Its the MAX time.

I don't think in general you would term all Christian music gospel chops la, otherwise As I Lay Dying would be gospel chops too. I guess it evolved from the style a lot of musicians were playing gospel songs with. Youtube "gospel chops".

Which model?

Anyone here used UFIPs before? Thy sound sweet wei.

I'm not using custom "professional" IEMs now, but I'm using regular headphones and earphones.
I use them more for the noise reduction effect than for the click tracks, which I don't use with every song lah.
When I gig, I usually stick with my Phillips earphones and I use my Sony bass boosters in the jamming studio.

Generally, in small shows in Malaysia, you don't necessarily get good monitors or support for IEMs, so its still good that I can hear everyone else while protecting my ears.

I've only played with IEM support (with a band) twice or thrice, and otherwise its from my laptop/computer into my ears just for the click and I depend on stage monitors, so I don't see the need for a pair of USD200 IEMs at the moment. Perhaps once I start focusing more on my music career I'll get a pair.

I'm pretty blessed with the fact that the church that I play at has a few monitors surrounding me behind the drum shields, with one exclusively for the bass directly behind me. I still use my earphones to reduce the decibel count though.

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I guess its not really soundproofing la, though it does reduce the sound a bit.

I believe it reduces mic bleed and helps the engineers mic up the drums for more clarity perhaps? No point shielding if its not mic-ed right?

And if you're wearing IEMs, its not that harsh la, and even you aren't, its never been too bad for me. xD

Bad experiences WintersuN?

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Added on June 26, 2011, 4:58 pmAnother reason why I need to go try out a pair soon.

Used my Cobras at church today, and it was really really fun

This post has been edited by isaacmiranda7: Jun 26 2011, 04:58 PM