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Investment SETAPAK GREEN RESIDENCES by UOA, Your Enclave for Refresh Living

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post Oct 14 2010, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:16 PM)
Is this mandatory or just guideline.  Hate to see cars park all over outside of 222/288 .
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ask your architect or planner. lol


normally can appeal, but lack 1 carpark = RM60k fine...dulu RM15k
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post Oct 14 2010, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 14 2010, 11:21 PM)
OK.  I hope this implementation by DBKL is real. Otherwise the whole of Setapak between Danau Kota and P Ramlee will be like a big car yard.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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no hope la....carpark always no enough in klang valley especially highrise residential development.

be prepared, tonnes of carparks along the roadside.

955 units x 2.5 cars each unit = 2388 cars

955 units x 3.5 cars each unit = 3342 cars.


lol

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post Oct 15 2010, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 15 2010, 10:34 PM)
That's why you still can make noise to UOA to improve the design or furnishing for your units.  Tell them to read the comments here. Who knows maybe they give you another carpark or 5 star furnishing or improvements in design.
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mana boleh...hahaha.....once >50% taken-up..sure developer "choy lei dou so".


fast fast decide...death match SG VS 288....where you go......
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post Oct 15 2010, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 15 2010, 10:41 PM)
still can pull out mah....... S&P not sign yet.  If another developer launch in One Step (setapak) locality with better offer, I think many will withdraw.  So UOA booking is not so firm.
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hahaha...i could say...limited supply...UOA's SG still can sell even though to me it is not attractive at all compare to 288.

next launch would be Zeta park phase 2 and phase 3.



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post Oct 17 2010, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 17 2010, 07:42 PM)
For the steep pricing UOA is charging, it is best to make sure that they deliver quality specs before signing the S&P.  Once signed cannot withdraw leow.
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Uoa got sg's show unit?

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post Oct 17 2010, 09:08 PM

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Got money to park mah...haha


Added on October 17, 2010, 9:09 pmGot money to park mah...haha



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post Oct 17 2010, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 17 2010, 09:20 PM)
Buyer thinks at this price still got upside. However, with so many units coming in the vicinity, it will take time for the consumption.
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hhehe....noone can tell. just let time to tell.

webby, decided to go for which project? or just forget about setapak area project, aim for other part of KL.

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post Oct 19 2010, 10:59 AM

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To me SG+222+288+Diamond Residency location is equally the same. all within walking distance. so it is nothing big deal if your condo was the nearest to shoplots .

there are shoplots at the ground floor of 222 serv. apartment and the shoplots are to be retained by developer (as informed). I don't know what kind of shops will be there, but probably food and beverage and convenient shop only to serve the residents better. with this, 288 also can consider nearer to the shoplots as well..haha...plus those shoplots in prima setapak area. LOL.

concept wise...SG is more green. Lot of people like green, and they will automatically link this green feature to family delights. so the general rule, young people like 288, family suite to SG..LOL....haha...who rules this??? how many people would really enjoy these green feature after working/ during weekend? Titiwangsa lake park is just nearby.

well, good development projects always been taken up fast. As long as these 2 projects still got units for sale, you still can make your choices.

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post Oct 19 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 19 2010, 01:05 PM)
Yup, therefore, KLCC view become SG Rooftop garden View  drool.gif
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I would enjoy SG's swimming pool view as well...LOL... thumbup.gif




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post Oct 19 2010, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 19 2010, 08:31 PM)
not roof top of Sg la, siao, its gonna be mini Genting le..  roof top of parking

take your time on the compilation :-)


Added on October 19, 2010, 8:32 pm

Never heard of it, but im not suprise that they need to do a show unit with competition from 288
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just wish 288 sold out within a month from now..hahaha...


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post Oct 20 2010, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 20 2010, 08:04 PM)
Level 1 SG = Level 1 Carpark of 288
Level 8 SG = Level 1 Residential of 288. Correction - 222 from level 9 la..... 288 level 4 or 5 la....
How to compare?  Not apple and apple but chicken and burger.  For condo, higher more expensive wor......
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post Oct 20 2010, 09:09 PM

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user posted image <---- 222 Residency, Grd floor shoplots, parking from level 1 to level 7, level 8 facilities floor

user posted image <-----222 Residency (another view)

user posted image <----- 288 Residency, where the parking level from ground to 4 floor (4th floor half parking half facilities)

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post Oct 20 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 20 2010, 09:17 PM)
Pictures can't tell clearly as they were using shades for the parking.  I remember it is 7 or 8 floors of parking.
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LOL....check out yourself then. If model can't tell you which floor is for parking...speechless...


sorry for being kepoh here..hahaha

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post Oct 20 2010, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 20 2010, 09:31 PM)
Hahaha... Do they sell these kind of model? I'm interested to get one. A picture tells million words... Hahaha... Can't imaginE how many ramp up u need if your car park at seven floor, unless they got car lift likE japan.
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yayaya..hahaha.....too many levels up carparks....due to land size constrain......no choice, they wanna save cost by no building basements, then the only choice...go for multistorey carparks.


something like Saville Residence @ Old Klang road, up up up ...hahaa
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post Oct 21 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(newkidontheblock @ Oct 21 2010, 10:39 AM)
Based on the all the comments seen here and from what I have understood from KP and UOA - I think both projects have their own merits.  I referring to 288 and SG, of course as their product is almost similar.  222 is a whole different kind of animal.

Let's take a look:
ITEM 1 - COMPANY REPUTATION
KP is a new developer - can trust?  Well, I doubt that KP is a hit and run company.  For their first few projects, they are keen to impress the public and develop some confidence in buyers.  So I think 288 can try.
UOA - established and reliable.  No 2nd guessing on whether they can perform.  SG can buy too.

ITEM 2 - LOCATION
Well, they are both in more or less the same place.  Sure certain views are blocked by either building - SG block 222/288 KL view and 222/288 block SG Genting view.  So choose your units wisely.
Road expansion?  Well, I have spoken to representatives of both developers and they seem very certain that it will be going ahead.  Sure once all the blocks are completed there may be a bottle-neck at this area, but at least these guys are doing their part to widen the road to ease the traffic.
Both wins.

ITEM 3 - PRODUCT : BUILDING
288 building facade is nice - judging from their artist's impressions, very stylish.  SG - definitely not as nice, but then again SG not launched, only preview. Sales staff said product still improving.  Cross fingers.
Dual access in SG?  UOA not sure as they mentioned is dependent on authority.  If got, then great!  KP - definitely 1 access only.
Open garden space in SG very nice.  Like small park.
288 no space for that - but nice facilities area - like hotel.

ITEM 4 - PRODUCT : UNITS
Living Room width given in 288 is larger than SG;
Bathrooms in SG better than 288 as majority is natural ventilated;
SG changed design so more ventilation at yard area - esp for air-con.  288 not sure where air-con compressor is placed;

ITEM 5 - PRICING
288 give kitchen cabinets and appliances (Electrolux some more!) is very good.  Helps the small families save money on renovation.  Technically buyer is paying for it, but at least its in the loan amount already so no need pay full lump sum like during renovation.
UOA don't have.  But give buyers the opportunity to create their own style.  I mean esp for larger units, buyers have a little more money and may like to design to their own taste, rather than stick to the standard kitchen design and colour.  I'm sure KP will give a contemporary kitchen design acceptable to most, but it is still standard.

SG give 2 car parks - a definitely plus point as for units with 3 bedrooms, 2 cp is minimum requirement. 
288 give 1 cp only.  So I guess money saved on not doing kitchen renovation will use for buying/renting extra car park.

This list can go on and on - comparing all pros and cons of both projects.  I have to say they both have their own merits, so it really boils down to personal preference and what each buyer looks for.
Me?  What did I buy?  Personally, I took up SG.  Why?
1.  2 cp important for me & wife
2.  I'm designer & like to cook so like design my own kitchen
3.  Thinking of start a family, so park is nice
4.  Friend bought UOA park residence, say design & specs ok

At first I was not sure about SG, cause during their preview, they kept changing design.  Poster one type, then easal stand got another.  Why?  If not ready don't launch lah.  Didn't seem very pro.
Later I thought - UOA is established company, I'm sure they are not so slip-shot.  Maybe this is their strategy.  Do a sneak preview, get feedback from customers, then amend design.  Sure, it's a little unconventional, but ultimately its for the better.  I look at their revised layout and it is definitely an improvement.  I like the big kitchen now.  smile.gif

In conclusion - buyers of 288 and SG are both winners.  REALLY REALLY depends on what is important for you.  For flippers, maybe can earn some extra cash, but my philosopy is buy something that you like to stay in.  If you like it, chances in selling or leasing it is higher, cause even you would like to stay there.

Good luck all!!
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post Oct 21 2010, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(vreis @ Oct 21 2010, 12:03 PM)
Another point to ponder is that being a good main contractor & a good developer is a different ball game. It doesn't guarantee u their development will be great. The only thing it can guarantee is their workmanship & site management.
Being great in main con won't cos the company $$$ since all expenses are borned by developer.
But being a great developer will cos the company $$$ even if there's slight changes. And here's the key point, does the company have strong financial backing for the projects?
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not agreed

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post Oct 21 2010, 07:01 PM

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'Long way to property bubble in Malaysia'


2010/10/21


SHAH ALAM: There is still a long way to reach property bubble in Malaysia, says Housing and Local Government Minister Datuk Wira Chor Chee Heung.

According to the Housing Index for the last 10 years, prices of houses have moved about 37 per cent while in countries like Singapore and Hong Kong, property prices shot passed 35 per cent last year, he said.

He said property prices in Malaysia started to rise since 2008 due to land cost, building materials and vibrancy of the economy as a result of the initiatives and measures taken by the federal government.

"This is also as a result of foreign companies coming into this country to invest in properties. Because of the aggressive policies by the government, a lot of foreign companies set up bases in this country and bought properties for their senior staff and executives," he said when launching Setia City, an integrated green commercial hub in Shah Alam to be developed by SP Setia Bhd.

Chor, however, said it did not mean ordinary people who just joined the workforce are not able to buy houses.

"If you go further up a bit, 10km away from the KL City Centre, you are still able to find a reasonably-priced house. "If you say you can't find houses in the Klang Valley within the RM350,000 range, I will not believe you, but you have to travel a bit further out of the city centre.

"In central Kuala Lumpur, you can't find houses within the range of RM150,000 to RM300,000. Last year and this year, the most sought-after properties are in the range of RM150,000 to RM180,000.

"In central Kuala Lumpur, you can't find houses within the range of RM150,000 to RM300,000.

"This is the result of government efforts to transform Kuala Lumpur into a bustling city. If you find a house at RM200,000 within the Kuala Lumpur City, this means our economy is in bad shape," he said.

Chor said the government was concerned of this and that was why incentives were provided for in the 2011 Budget to assist low-income earners and young people who just joined the workforce to buy houses.

The minister, however, said the government would not control property prices as Malaysia was a free economy.

"The government will intervene if certain things happen that will bring disaster to the economy and the people," he said.
Chor said people have been buying houses since 2008 and he did not deny that there could be some speculation.

"There is also a sudden drop in the number of houses to be built last year and this showed developers are also studying the market situation," he said.

SP Setia president and chief executive officer Tan Sri Liew Kee Sin said there was no where to build houses within the RM350,000 price range except in Johor where land was cheaper.

"Land cost is a factor of the end-product," he said, adding that a large portion of SP Setia's projects were within the price range of RM400,000 to RM1 million. -- Bernama


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post Oct 21 2010, 08:26 PM

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user posted image <---Lumina kiara condo - main con - KP

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photos from logorithm

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I am expecting this kind of quality by paying less than 300 per sf. LOL

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post Oct 21 2010, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Oct 21 2010, 10:14 PM)
I quoted this for UOA to see, UOA, prove wonghs wrong pls... cry.gif


Added on October 21, 2010, 10:29 pm

Good stuff
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Lumina Kiara is the first project of its developer....good one..... UOA - buyers urge you to give this kind of quality too...LOL

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post Oct 24 2010, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(webby88 @ Oct 23 2010, 03:21 PM)
Is Setapak Green condo or only an apartment?  From the facilities, it has only swimming pool and some basic facilities like gym.  No tennis courts, squash court and others.  Even Genting Court Apartment (look like low cost apartment now) nearby have swimming pool, 2 tennis courts and a clubhouse.  IOI is launching in Puchong soon apartments with swimming pool and clubhouse. Subang Goodyear court apartments also have swimming pool and clubhouse. Is this something buyers have been misled as condo but actually a good mid cost apartment only?  I am not referring in particular SG but also 288 and other development as well.
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the more facilities you get, the more you need to pay to maintain those facilities. not main main, you will be paid alot to maintain them, otherwise, they will be eyesore and can affected the entire condominium.

prefer UOA provide basic facilities will do.

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