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> Malaysia engineers are very lazy unlike Germans, GERMANY official had spoken to Malaysia.

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post Oct 4 2010, 03:19 AM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Oct 4 2010, 03:07 AM)
designer build design the car, engineer design suitable step and procedure in manufacturing process.. ugly design go blame the designer

if u ask mechnical engineer to design car, u think he can come out with sleek looking  car while most of the time he design pipe system and more technical stuff
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not just a design but everything dude
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post Oct 4 2010, 03:24 AM

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alah most part u can find everywhere... it all standard part who the hell so stupid go redesign standard part

top want cut cost, simple loh.. use lower grade or thinner steel sheet.. want cut cost sumore, design part can be build with plastic wnat cut cost sumore redesign whole frame to use minimum amount of raw material

that why u see ppl die in proton everyday..
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post Oct 4 2010, 03:28 AM

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QUOTE(quackers @ Oct 2 2010, 04:26 PM)
Not all malaysians are lazy, only 1 particular race......
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definitely ****ese
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post Oct 4 2010, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(quackers @ Oct 2 2010, 04:26 PM)
Not all malaysians are lazy, only 1 particular race......
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yeah dude. ur race la. 50 year plus of independent and still got racist ppl. grow up la dude
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post Oct 4 2010, 05:13 AM

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QUOTE(hack3line @ Oct 2 2010, 04:23 PM)

Social acceptance is equally high in Germany whether you are a painter, an electrician or an engineer - as long as you are a master of your craft. "In fact, if you are a good electrician, you will be highly respected and earn good money."

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I like what he says here. True. We are lacking social acceptance or appreciation for people working unconventional jobs. Closest example, look at how most of our people treat restaurant waiters/workers.
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post Oct 4 2010, 05:31 AM

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this is MALASia, dude
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post Oct 4 2010, 05:54 AM

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if any of you guys need proof about malaysian engineers being useless all you have to look is proton after 20yrs still a useless company doh.gif ...and you all know which race dominate that place lah...lol
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On unrelated news, I just voted in the EngAus state elections and the prevoted for a new Royal Charter to be signed by Lizzie II or Quentin Bryce.

In all honesty I read all the candidate statements and considered their contributions to the profession and the community as a whole, but ultimately, my vote was skewed by the relative "entertainment" or "awesome" value i attached to the candidate's name. Eg; Steven Blades. Seriously, any man badass enough to be named BLADES has to be given a high preference vote. Some sad indian guy got the lowest of my votes because his name sounded like assf***, i kid you not.


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post Oct 4 2010, 07:42 AM

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yea puts me to shame, an engineer but not <insert race>
write reports, write tenders, reprogram some stuff, go here n there teach ppl bout reprogramming =X
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post Oct 4 2010, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(absorb-d @ Oct 4 2010, 08:42 AM)
yea puts me to shame, an engineer but not <insert race>
write reports, write tenders, reprogram some stuff, go here n there teach ppl bout reprogramming =X
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bosan ? what to do ?
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post Oct 4 2010, 02:14 PM

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true fact: want to be as advanced as the Germans? Get into a war and fight it. We can have one with Indonesia and Singapore.
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post Oct 4 2010, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Oct 4 2010, 02:14 PM)
true fact: want to be as advanced as the Germans? Get into a war and fight it. We can have one with Indonesia and Singapore.
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I think this perhaps can be true tongue.gif

look at Israel who had constant war throughout the decades...they excel so much coz they need to be at highest level of technologies...if not they will screwed badly
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post Oct 4 2010, 02:18 PM

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wrong jew is the god race in the world
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post Oct 4 2010, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(quackers @ Oct 2 2010, 04:29 PM)
god knows when they'll change
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god know that never gonna be happen.
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post Oct 4 2010, 07:09 PM

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I wonder why Perkosa have not lodge polis report against this mat salleh with misai for challenging Bumi rights?!
Common Ali...u can do it! Then perkosa can get international notice...
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post Oct 4 2010, 07:16 PM

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=) he did enuf shame for malaysian. some of my knowledgable swiss friends already know. but majority europeans 1st image of malaysia still the model that drink beer then wanna kena whip.
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post Oct 4 2010, 07:17 PM

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This is so true and it's a shame that the German even know what's happening in our country. How did he knew the true story?
Must be some Malaysian Insider who reported to him smile.gif

Anyway it's normal in developed countries for fresh engineering grad to do odd jobs such as technicians, sales rep or trainee/repairman.It is through years of experience and knowledge that they could finally become a real engineer which resume a role of a managerial position in technical know-how. What he said about Malaysians had ideas that engineers sit comfortably in cozy offices is so true.

Most importantly even as fresh graduates who start low end jobs such as painters, repairman, field technicians, sales rep the difference between their country and Malaysia is their salary rates.
Their technicians and painters for what you know earns more than our so called "engineers".




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post Oct 4 2010, 07:30 PM

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those bebudak LI are there for a reason

why beating arse when you can let these kids beating their arse themselves?
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post Oct 4 2010, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Oct 4 2010, 02:37 AM)

In malaysia, how rare u see big project that need creative thinking ? bina jalan ? bina jambatan ?
i used to be in maintenance, the proper procedure when machine spoil is, check the machine 1st, if under warranty call the vendor for technical assistant, if unable to locate fault,call the vendor technician over to have a check up 

nvr ever repair the machine yourself.. so it almost like a desk job.. all those enthusiasm to becoming engineer soon lost in time
tepuk dada tanya selera

if boss ask u go site, dont tell me u sincerely go without complaining or whining a single bit even to yourself
it goes from the top to bottom regardless of ranks
it the mentality of all Malaysian, i have meet foreigner engineer,, i admit they are very initiative, they even work like kuli just to fix thing on time, while i saw my junior just laughing off at one side.
of course i feel malu and decide to go help them and build some relation
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You have some truth in what you said. Sometimes, its n ot just laziness. Problem is, when people started out sourcing to cut cost and optimise their resources.... this is going to happen. Like say, Big MNC project let to Sub-con. Sub-con do everything to do resolve any problems because they want the business. So Engineers in MNC... .ha..ha... what do you think they will do? Easy job, anything don't know, call Sub-con. This is happeing in SG. Those who really know their stuff are the smaller compaines.. The big MNC... NOT all engineers are like that, but mostly talk big and work with their mouth. So you have engineers on one hand, know everything. On the other hand, engineers also know nothing but talk only
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post Oct 4 2010, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(vapeace @ Oct 4 2010, 03:03 AM)
where u get this info ? as far i know ppl there even if u from SG or MY or Japan they still see u as asian
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Yes, see you as asian, however, there are some truth when I was in Germany. At munich airport on transit, I was carrying my camera and was asked to take a photo shot using the camera. Those days, they suspected that I am from China and my camera could have been used to store drugs. When at the company for training, the staff there expected some form of standard from you.

Of course, there are also the bad ones. Just that expectation varies. Just like, when I was at Frankfurt Airport buying chocolate at duty free shop and waiting for my turn to pay at the counter. The couple in front of me pay by credit card and the staff, flip his card all over and finally refused to accept it after asking some questions. That couple had to pay by CASH. When it was my turn, the staff immediately recognised my card and knew where I was from. NO question was asked and card payment excepted

I mean, its really up to us asians to change that perception, it just can't happen over night.


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