lol he's just butthurt because we own Lotus. Lotus = British Carmaker.
and have you seen any laymen asian car get good reviews in TopGear? LOL!

This post has been edited by rizq: Oct 3 2010, 10:20 PM

that fella really sohem.

i defend proton? i just say i want to look you guys design a car.
if you don't watch all top gear episodes please don't make conclusions
jeremy clarkson says a lot of negative things to expensive cars, be it porsche, bmw x6.
and i'm not interested in proton cars nowadays.

lol, we die 5 times in our lifetime also cannot pwn them.

I like him.

He said the Kelisa sound like a name for a bacteria.


I lulz.


German Cars FTW!!!!!!!!!

well it true.. why so buthurt ? i admit i am a lazy engineer and will try to avoid going to site and get dirty

any1 here who say the opposite is just a plane liar

Somewhat disagree.

good to know an experienced engineer supports my statement. some elders out there butthurt kena criticize by a 18.


what i was trying to show was ppl like ^

sampah but too bad thats majority of malaysian engineer. too many engineers in the market now, title were given easily to those who can afford degree program. someone up there mentioned himself as lazy but his colleagues make him feel good. no competition in local market. majority mentality.

This post has been edited by quest_5692: Oct 4 2010, 02:21 AM

you =/= everyone
get that into your thick skull you lazy ape.

wrong, the main reason why many engineer are lazy now are, everything is standardized, this procedure and technique for any issues or problem
basicly lack of problem solving situation, Many engineer learn from such experience that what make them busy and innovative

In malaysia, how rare u see big project that need creative thinking ? bina jalan ? bina jambatan ?
i used to be in maintenance, the proper procedure when machine spoil is, check the machine 1st, if under warranty call the vendor for technical assistant, if unable to locate fault,call the vendor technician over to have a check up

nvr ever repair the machine yourself.. so it almost like a desk job.. all those enthusiasm to becoming engineer soon lost in time
tepuk dada tanya selera

if boss ask u go site, dont tell me u sincerely go without complaining or whining a single bit even to yourself
it goes from the top to bottom regardless of ranks
it the mentality of all Malaysian, i have meet foreigner engineer,, i admit they are very initiative, they even work like kuli just to fix thing on time, while i saw my junior just laughing off at one side.
of course i feel malu and decide to go help them and build some relation

yes, exactly point delivered. this is community mentality and such phenomena is near to impossible to change in near future. theres no competition and excess innovation will not gain equivalent award. we cant blame local engineers.

of course, i respect local engineers who still work with full innovation. because they are more awesome and tougher than those decided to flee to other country and shine there.

BTW, malaysian engineer or singapore engineer or German engineer have their own fair share of lazy individual.. only diff we have more they have less
there no such thing as 100% perfect individual in the world

the reason why foreigner are hardworking is because they have assessment based report by their team leader or so.. if u lazy, u can pack your bag and say goodbye as u will be unemployed tomorrow.. heard from one of the foreign engineer i used to work with

back in malaysia ? team leader ownself lazy ape, u expect his members to be hardworking ? So why are so buthurt ppl say malaysian engineer are lazy ?

quest_5692 u 18years old ? if yess.. dont speak too soon, once u work u will meet all kind of ppl

This post has been edited by vapeace: Oct 4 2010, 02:55 AM

yes. of course there are lazy engineers here in zurich. but they will get pushed by the majorities, let say 80%. community pressure.

in malaysia. too bad., its another way round. if u too good, maybe ur manager will butt hurt and talk bad about you.

In the Uk and Middle east they try to avoid Malaysia Chinese engineer cos they said this engineer are lazy and not trustable...this engineer got stereotype with conn job

where u get this info ? as far i know ppl there even if u from SG or MY or Japan they still see u as asian

somebody tell that to proton ppl

You can ask the white guy and white lady from all over the world in the Malaysia sure they will said they dont like chinese very much and i talk a lot with them

designer build design the car, engineer design suitable step and procedure in manufacturing process.. ugly design go blame the designer

if u ask mechnical engineer to design car, u think he can come out with sleek looking car while most of the time he design pipe system and more technical stuff

sometime i dont know why people always blame the engineer when designer design crap looking car

oo really ? i would love to see that as far i know my boss is a mat salleh.. i dont see him going around tell chinese are con man.. If so u wont see a lot asian engineer are at US oil rig also