i was interviewed by HR 1st before i had the chance to meet Hiring Manager, totally waste my AL and time. I'm still looking for better way to reject telling HR my salary, dreamer method seem to be the best so far

Well IMO you shouldn't generalize. You did mention some, not all. Thing is, if you do not reveal your actual pay to the company, the chances of you getting the job is as good as gone. No doubt these companies benchmark candidates' salary but if you believe you deserve better, just ditch them.

Best of all, if they really want - employers can still look up your actual salary if they want. I couldn't remember what body (that every employee in Malaysia is registered under) but HRs have a way to check it out.

In the end it's still up to you. All the best.

That's ridiculous. So if you're extremely proficient and talented in what you do, and you can do what most other people can't (for example you're a powerful programmer/super good with microsoft access/know stuff about Islamic Financial Legal stuff) they still go on about the 20% thing? Sounds bollocks to me.

I have a friend in another department telling me, there's this guy, some damn junior guy. He's the whole reason the dept isn't falling apart. If he left, the 20 or so ppl there ... even the HEAD OF DEPT would not be able to cope with all the stuff he's helping them out with. This kind of people, companies will go out of their way to retain them. That is pure TALENT.

i like it when the company put many eggs in my basket. more nego power.

but its not healthy cos too much risk involve. so wat if i sign a 10 yr bond say i wont leave, but i ,say, fall ill? then compny at risk liao.

Yes, but no one is 'irreplaceable'... If that is the case, then he wouldn't be able to get a promotion or move to HQ etc in future From the way it looks, this department is really mis-managed and the Dept Head doesn't seem to be efficient. The junior guy is running the show and for one, he can't stay there forever. The department head really need to rearrange the staffs' tasks, responsibilities and documentations.

Thanks for all the helpful tips guys..
just got my offer from PwC

cheers

Yeah. That's one screwed up department. And its in Securities Commission of Malaysia summore. But he is really that good. He's from ANU and a honours degree holder (Remember, honours in Aus and UK unis are different).

Anyway enough about him, more about me now.

Goldman Sachs question. How would you guys tackle this question? Please reply ASAP, as the deadline is almost due :S

Motivations for applying to Goldman Sachs JBWere

In your application cover letter, please provide examples of the qualities you will bring to Goldman Sachs JBWere and describe your motivations for applying for a graduate position with us.

Goldman Sachs JBWere is the company name?
may be you told them your capability? If fresh graduate, you may show them your result of subject that useful for the job you applying. and if you have any additional certification you may show them too?
motivate ar? This company will provide me bright future and I believe my capability and skill can brought company to next level of success?

Thanks for your reply... but a bit lem la.

They will be looking for crazy high quality answers. I'll be fighting with UniMelb, USyd, ANU, LSE, Harvard, Kings College, Imperial College grads.

Yes it is Goldman Sachs JBWere I'm talking about, sorry for the confusion.

do you have anything that put you higher than those candidate? if yes show them. As for me, I use competition champion certificate that I earn during study for advance diploma.

Well, I have quite some knowledge in Islamic finance since I'm in Securities Commission now. I doubt the guai lous have much exposure to that area - probably if they have, its only academic.

I have real life working experience in that area.

Besides, I have passed RG 146 - ASIC (Australian Securities and Investments Commission) training requirement for Financial Advisors.

That that's all in the other questions already... this is a question on its own. I'll have to wreck my brains to come up with some good shit lol.

All that motivation crap about passion and shit.

Say... I will make your company expand at least 3 branches in ASIA.

Fulamak. Siao siao! Hahaha... yeah, thanks for an idea though. I'll mention about how i'll help expand GC in Msia as they just got an investment banking license from SC. Thanks mate!

yeah, they want to be crazy, go it with ambitious. They loved to know if you can help company make money, especially for those banking industries.

Well good to know you found the answer to your question ...all the best!

Btw I have a friend who also works in Securities Commission. 2 friends actually - both in different departments.

HAHA, hi there, i was from GSJBW though, in the melbourne office, 101 collins st =)

well, they actually gave me some tests to do during the interviews, not only answering questions... if i am not mistaken, i had been asked questions that are pretty technical regarding investments.

Jz went for an interview this morning in company C.
The only question he ask me is why i leave previous company A and join company B which is in diff field. Company A is more to service where Company B is manufacturing. Currently, company C that i applying is same field as company A.
After explained to him, most of the time the interviewer do all the talking.

After the manager explained everything to me, job scope, job responsibility and what will i aspect if i work there and etc, he give me bout 3 weeks to consider weather i still interested in this job? Is it normal? Cos normally, after the interview they will either call in a week or so if they interested and not the other way round rite?

Do i still stand a chance in tat interview?

What? He gives you 3 weeks to consider? No, that doesn't sound normal. Unless you're saying the company told you they need 3 weeks to finalize all candidates and consider - then that is normal.

Well if it's the 1st scenario, then why not call them up after 2-3 days? If you really want the job then convince the manager that you really want it and have considered it thoroughly. Plus, tell him you applied for the vacancy because you're interested in the 1st place.

Don't wait till 3 weeks. Not even 1 week... coz by then someone else would have gotten the position.

Yupp i also taught i heard wrongly. But he told me if possible after cny only let him know my decision
Ask me dun so fast decide and think throughly -.-''
Anyway i plan to give him a call latest by next Monday.

The only reason i can think of is he worried i wont last long? Cos he told me the job is very challenging & must know how to drink (occasionally need to entertain client) I apply for Engineer position btw.

Helpful thread. Will surely help some members in an interview.