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ohman
post Jun 18 2018, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 18 2018, 08:40 PM)
You got it the other way around. LOL

Please don't sign up just because it's a cool story. It ain't going to last thats for sure. Now that I think about it ain't no cool story but a really sad or terrible experience that shouldn't happen to any Catholics if they followed the Church's teaching.

Many Catholics themselves are leaving for other religions or becoming atheist simply because they have not really understood what the Holy Bible is trying to say let alone read the Holy Bible.

Before I forget to all Roman Catholics don't not assume that Holy Water, salt, candles, onions, garlic etc etc like in the Hollywood movies will deter the Devil. IT WON'T WORK !!! The Devil is only afraid of God, look up the Holy Bible it will do you a lot of good.
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Vatican also use holy water isnt it?

If they are ONLy afraid of God , so ggwp when you see them?



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post Jun 18 2018, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 18 2018, 09:45 PM)
Vatican also use holy water isnt it?

If they are ONLy afraid of God , so ggwp when you see them?
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Yes the entire Catholic Church uses Holy Water 💦.

I tried sprinkling the Holy Water on my mother-in-law during demonic possession but the Devil didn't leave.

Recollecting the event, the Devil is a spirit, why should the Devil a spirit be afraid of water that's blessed by holy men ?

What is ggwp ? Sorry a lot of short forms or acronyms in the forum I really don't know what it means.
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post Jun 18 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 18 2018, 09:54 PM)
Yes the entire Catholic Church uses Holy Water 💦.

I tried sprinkling the Holy Water on my mother-in-law during demonic possession but the Devil didn't leave.

Recollecting the event, the Devil is a spirit, why should the Devil a spirit be afraid of water that's blessed by holy men ?

What is ggwp ? Sorry a lot of short forms or acronyms in the forum I really don't know what it means.
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If devil only fear of God, how are mortals going to counter them? We are no God and how do we seek help?


Sprinkling holy water expecting it to work like fire extinguisher doesnt really sound right man.

Though i have no idea about exorcism
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post Jun 18 2018, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(talzer @ Jun 18 2018, 08:54 PM)
QUESTION : What is the point these demon/ghost disturb us? What do they aim to get?

ANSWER : Demons are evil spirits that does evil things in the world to create disharmony among human beings. Their sole purpose is to keep human beings from knowing and ultimately loving God himself.

QUESTION : If we really one day faced them, will it be effective to not feel afraid at them as i read somewhere they feed on our fear? Or we simply be scarier than them and scold them back?

ANSWER : You can try not be afraid but don't be surprised if you suddenly find yourself in real trouble with the Devil. Do you really think scolding the Devil or being scarier to a possessed person would work ? Why should the Devil listen to you in the first place ?

After my encounter with the Devil, my good friend a lawyer said that I am a exorcist now that I have  succeeded. I said "I have no intentions of venturing down this line which is fraught with danger. I may have succeeded that time but it returned again during Chinese New Year when other members of the family tried to pray over her ! I was caught by surprised it happened because I teach RCIA enquirers into the faith, do not and never allow any Tom, Dick or Harry to simply put his hand over without a presence of a Catholic Priest for that's where problem immediately starts. After that day, I never allowed anyone to come to my in-laws place without my presence. There are some lines Catholic must never cross just because it's practice in the Church, now I ask who gave you that authority ? Pseudo-Catholics !"

QUESTION : What harm can they do to us? Physically or mentally or both?

ANSWER : Demonic possession will lead to physical and mental strain on family members and in most cases it will eventually lead to death 💀. The Holy Bible tells us that the Devil aims to steal, kill and ultimately destroy.

Many questions here haha
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Taizer, the answers above, that I am giving is from the Holy Bible from a Roman Catholic perspective.

Other religions should have their own answers too, I hope. If there are other answers from different religions please share them as I would like to learn too from other religions perspective. TQVM.
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post Jun 18 2018, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Jun 18 2018, 09:59 PM)
If devil only fear of God, how are mortals going to counter them? We are no God and how do we seek help?
Sprinkling holy water expecting it to work like fire extinguisher doesnt really sound right man.

Though i have no idea about exorcism
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Although that was the first exorcism I did and it worked, I never knew exactly what I was doing at that time. I will not be doing it again that's for sure. These matters is best left to Catholic Priest that are well-versed in this field.

Yes the sprinkling of Holy Water 💦 does not work because the Devil is not afraid. In the movies all lebih punya but when I tried on my mother-in-law tak jadi pulak ???

When manifestations appear going to the hospital is of no use because while the blue black marks are there visible there's no hemorrhage whatsoever under the skin. So science cannot pick up on issues like these. They will be bewildered.

Best to consult the authorities in one owns faith first. If that does not help, then probably seek help from other religions. These issue cannot delay as it's very dangerous because initially the possessions will be like far apart but at the later stages it will be more frequent and the intensity of violence will increase as the Devil fights to claim over the body.

NOTE : While it's possible to seek out other religion for assistance but let's make it clear that Muslims are not encouraged or rather not allowed to do so.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 18 2018, 10:39 PM)
Although that was the first exorcism I did and it worked, I never knew exactly what I was doing at that time. I will not be doing it again that's for sure. These matters is best left to Catholic Priest that are well-versed in this field.

Yes the sprinkling of Holy Water 💦 does not work because the Devil is not afraid. In the movies all lebih punya but when I tried on my mother-in-law tak jadi pulak ???

When manifestations appear going to the hospital is of no use because while the blue black marks are there visible there's no hemorrhage whatsoever under the skin. So science cannot pick up on issues like these. They will be bewildered.

Best to consult the authorities in one owns faith first. If that does not help, then probably seek help from other religions. These issue cannot delay as it's very dangerous because initially the possessions will be like far apart but at the later stages it will be more frequent and the intensity of violence will increase as the Devil fights to claim over the body.

NOTE : While it's possible to seek out other religion for assistance but let's make it clear that Muslims are not encouraged or rather allowed to do so.
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I agree with you with regards to the sprinkling of the holy water. The Devil is not afraid of it at all.

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post Jun 19 2018, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(LonelyHart16 @ Jun 18 2018, 07:48 PM)
......, who is funding you? ......
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Ahhh now I understand what you meant.

About the funding me, it would be nice IF a sovereign fund like 1MDB was funding me for a value of 42 billions. That sounds really cool and nice but that's not to be.

It's written in Holy Scriptures, that man cannot serve both God and money 💰, for he can only serve one and hate the other.

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post Jun 19 2018, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Jun 18 2018, 12:38 AM)
i curious why all the hantu in malaysia mostly are female + long hair + must be in white?
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another reason is because some is wondering around for thousand of years....and they stay at same place without barber shop to cut their hairs hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jun 19 2018, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(talzer @ Jun 18 2018, 08:54 PM)
What is the point these demon/ghost disturb us? What do they aim to get?

If we really one day faced them, will it be effective to not feel afraid at them as i read somewhere they feed on our fear? Or we simply be scarier than them and scold them back?

What harm can they do to us? Physically or mentally or both?

Many questions here haha
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Not everyone is disturbed by the lower beings. Only certain people. If you notice, usually those who claim to be disturbed are those who are in a very low point of their life - major depression, substance abuse, unhappy, nervous wreck, etc - these are all very unwholesome mental states.

It's like a mental frequency. If your mind descends to that level, then naturally you will attract these negative beings.

It is our duty to uplift our mind to higher states.
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post Jun 19 2018, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ReiSan @ Jun 19 2018, 08:19 AM)
another reason is because some is wondering around for thousand of years....and they stay at same place without barber shop to cut their hairs  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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In world of hantu their hair still grows.
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post Jun 19 2018, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Jun 19 2018, 09:11 AM)
In world of hantu their hair still grows.
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in world of jiang shi (chinese version vampire, teeth still grow, nail as well) icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 19 2018, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 19 2018, 08:32 AM)
Not everyone is disturbed by the lower beings. Only certain people. If you notice, usually those who claim to be disturbed are those who are in a very low point of their life - major depression, substance abuse, unhappy, nervous wreck, etc - these are all very unwholesome mental states.

It's like a mental frequency. If your mind descends to that level, then naturally you will attract these negative beings.

It is our duty to uplift our mind to higher states.
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This is an interesting point of view and this is from which religion's perspective if I may so ask ?
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 19 2018, 09:50 AM)
This is an interesting point of view and this is from which religion's perspective if I may so ask ?
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I am a buddhist.

"Birds of a feather flock together" - you can see this all around you. People with same interest flock together. If the mind descends to that level of negativity, it will attract these beings to you. The way to get out of this, is to institute a psychological change in the mind, to uplift it to higher states.

Another way of looking at this is, the lower beings now see a negative human as their "flock" already. (not a good sign actually - must have a sense of urgency to purify the mind already)

Also, cannot rule out past lives karmic baggage.

The answer to the disturbance is actually purification of the mind.

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 19 2018, 09:50 AM)
This is an interesting point of view and this is from which religion's perspective if I may so ask ?
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Chinese believe in low ans high energy

Malay i think believe god creation

Christian i think believe in faith
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QUOTE(Theoutspokenguy @ Jun 19 2018, 10:38 AM)
Chinese believe in low ans high energy

Malay i think believe god creation

Christian i think believe in faith
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TQVM TheOutSpokenGuy that quite a summary. smile.gif

If I may, Roman Catholics are suppose to believe in the living God actually and not believe in faith. The act of believing in God wholeheartedly and trusting Him completely is call faith.

As for other Christian denominations, I do not know how they classify faith.

Sorry I had to clear that up because many especially Roman Catholics themselves, the commoners especially, are not sure themselves of such things.

Many newspapers publish words like "Faith in Najib" etc etc is completely incorrect and it easily misleads others but is does moves their papers ! 😂


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post Jun 19 2018, 11:16 AM

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din know that so many /k got Schizophrenia no wonder otak biul
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its a gift that you can see them...they knew u can see and will come to ask for your help..please help them if you are capable of doing it, most that still roam on the street can't reincarnate and will linger in the area that they died .They will have somethings that they would wanna do or messages that they would want to convey ..maybe to their wife or kids ..
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QUOTE(kukakoko @ Jun 17 2018, 12:08 AM)
Wondering why people meeting ghost only in their race. Never heard story malay people meet chinese ghost or vise versa.
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ive met chinese , japs and a gwailo. the gwailo, i met when i was studying abroad in gwailoland. japanese, the house i grew up in was their barracks, and they used to march around my house grounds when i was a kid.
Chinese because, someone's house was built on top of their grave unknowingly.


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QUOTE(ReiSan @ Jun 19 2018, 08:19 AM)
another reason is because some is wondering around for thousand of years....and they stay at same place without barber shop to cut their hairs  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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entities like these take upon the image which fears the aggrieved the most and as such, it may not appear the same to all. naturally, they do not have an image of their own simply because they are spirits.

perception of long hair, sharp teeth, etc are just conjured images by movie directors which they think will cast the most fear in movie goers - humans fear the unknown and once the unknown is known, there is nothing left to fear.

take the "plague doctor" epidemic as an example.

QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Jun 19 2018, 10:12 AM)
I am a buddhist.

"Birds of a feather flock together" - you can see this all around you. People with same interest flock together. If the mind descends to that level of negativity, it will attract these beings to you. The way to get out of this, is to institute a psychological change in the mind, to uplift it to higher states.

Another way of looking at this is, the lower beings now see a negative human as their "flock" already. (not a good sign actually - must have a sense of urgency to purify the mind already)

Also, cannot rule out past lives karmic baggage.

The answer to the disturbance is actually purification of the mind.
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your entire paragraph points to one end - it is all in the head (ie psychological). so, there is nothing supernatural about it?

QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 19 2018, 11:13 AM)
TQVM TheOutSpokenGuy that quite a summary. smile.gif

If I may, Roman Catholics are suppose to believe in the living God actually and not believe in faith. The act of believing in God wholeheartedly and trusting Him completely is call faith.

As for other Christian denominations, I do not know how they classify faith.

Sorry I had to clear that up because many especially Roman Catholics themselves, the commoners especially, are not sure themselves of such things.

Many newspapers publish words like "Faith in Najib" etc etc is completely incorrect and it easily misleads others but is does moves their papers ! 😂
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For a moment, i thought the Roman Catholics believed in the Pope more than anything else because they actually worshiped him laugh.gif

QUOTE(yeezai @ Jun 19 2018, 11:23 AM)
its a gift that you can see them...they knew u can see and will come to ask for your help..please help them if you are capable of doing it, most that still roam on the street can't reincarnate and will linger in the area that they died .They will have somethings that they would wanna do  or messages that they would want to convey ..maybe to their wife or kids ..
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the last thing you want to do is to poke your nose into matters which belongs in the other dimension. sendiri punya masalah also cannot kautim want to kautim people's ah?

also, don't you know associating with entities like this is almost always detrimental to your well being?


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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Jun 18 2018, 09:54 PM)
Yes the entire Catholic Church uses Holy Water 💦.

I tried sprinkling the Holy Water on my mother-in-law during demonic possession but the Devil didn't leave.

Recollecting the event, the Devil is a spirit, why should the Devil a spirit be afraid of water that's blessed by holy men ?

What is ggwp ? Sorry a lot of short forms or acronyms in the forum I really don't know what it means.
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Should cast him out in the name of the Lord...

Then what happen? Which parish u belong to? Got report to your parish priest? Was it escalated to the Bishop?

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