i will try bro thanks

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Added on October 20, 2010, 7:50 pmthanks for your opinion bro appreciated

This post has been edited by XeNoGeaR: Oct 20 2010, 07:50 PM

I think one good beginner song you can practice is Greenday's Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life). Maybe you can just practice beginning part first, if you view the video below the chords he use G, Cadd9, D. Change that D into Dsus4 so it become G, Cadd9, Dsus4 instead. This version easier cause you don't move two fingers on bottom 2 strings at all throughout that part.

Once you feel comfortable switching between the 3 chords then try follow the strumming pattern (DDU UDU, you'll find this very common pattern in other songs) no need to try catch up with song just strum slowly make yourself comfortable. Once get better try the next part Em, Dsus4, Cadd9, G (basically the first part terbalik plus Em in beginning), and another part Em, G, Em G. You can play whole song already , altogether only use 4 chords.

Then sudah bagus can start picking individual strings and strum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtDdtKE_UWQ



This post has been edited by shadoxicated: Oct 20 2010, 09:01 PM

I wonder is there any guitar examinations in Malaysia with certs?

hello, i am a newbie too.. but i wonder if there is any guitar exam in malaysia that award a certificate if i pass the exam?

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as far as i'm concern..yes, but it not organize by local institution..

Yes. There's few exam boards offer guitar exam, eg: Trinity, ABRSM, Yamaha.

Do you attend classes in music school? When you're well prepared for exam, you could ask your teacher or music school to register the exam for you.

I am not sure I understand 1-3.
1) A friend in this forum told me to listen to what you play. Is it the same?
2) Is tab slidding down the fret pressing the F chord? If so how this create a non listening problem?
3) Seriously, what are the basics. Most self learn people dont know the basic. I just read the picture (six vertical line for the string, horizontal line for the fret and dot for the fingers).

I heard a lot about these 3 organisations. The are not only confine to guitar. They have exam for violin, piano .... Please tell me what weight does certificate form these organisations carries.

the certificates should be of equal value, imo. don't think there's is a "better" one, albeit some may charge you craploads of money.

when he means basics, he's talking about basic techniques, for instance: alternate picking, legato, bends, vibrato, building up muscles, the ability to change between chords fluidly etc. i'm not too sure what he means by "too occupied by the fingerings" statement, it's too vague and ambiguous. faceless, i don't really get what are you trying to say in your second statement? beginners should start somewhere by reading tabs, heck i read tabs everyday. but does that hinder my aural skills? no. it just develops at a slower and a comfortable pace.

Hold a F chord. The index finger press all 6 strings on first fret. When the index finger slides to the third fret it becomes a G chord, 5th fret = A chord.

Just practice songs on the guitar that you like. You get more motivation once you hit the right keys and timing, hence making you more determine to practice the guitar more.

Trinity is as equally recognised worldwide as ABRSM. Yamaha grade system is also widely recognized, but yamaha is unique, its grade system go backwards, grade 10(fundamental) grade 9 to grade 7 (intermediate), grade 6 to grade 3 (advanced). Beside classic repertoires at higher grades, we learn music arrangement and improvisation.

It's compulsory to pass grade 5 theory exam to enter ABRSM grade 6 and above practical exam. Trinity and Yamaha do not require this.

ABRSM exam focus more on the technical skills, lots of scales scales scales and arpeggios. ABRSM and trinity do not have accompaniment test, but Yamaha have this, examiner plays the melody, you play chords and figure out the rhythm.

If you sit for ABRSM or Trinity guitar exam, the examiner may be not a guitarist, he/she may be a pianist or violinist or other instruments player. However, if you sit for Yamaha guitar exam, the examiner must be a guitarist.

Is there any guitar examinations that award cert if i pass it in malaysia??

how can i sit for the exams?

Many.

Rockschool, ABRSM, Trinity Guildhall.. and many.

Attend classes, get verified by a teacher and then go for the exam.

1. Yes. That's what music is about -something that you want to listen to. Now, (psychologically) we all *hate* the way we play -why can't I play like such and such, why is that kid plays better etc. But we should listen to our playing to identify our weakness and correct our techniques:
One musician said that his practice always include playing and holding one note on his instrument for minutes (he plays alto sax) just to listen to his playing of that single note -he was going for the tone i.e finding his own voice. Try it on the instrument of your choice
2. Not sure what your question is... Tab here means a simplified music sheet for guitarists, it usually shows where to play the notes, what chords to play etc.
3. Basics, what finalzz posted.

"too occupied by the fingerings"
Remember when we started playing we can't keep our eyes off the fret? Of course looking at our fingers do help improve our playing, but it also leads to improper playing posture and neglecting the picking hand/fingers, these two problems are what I see most in beginners.
"beginners should start somewhere by reading tabs"
That's it! When I's a beginner, I never *read* tabs, I just follow the numbers and this went for months or perhaps years -listen to a piece of song, google the tabs, spend hours of practice memorizing the numbers, by the end of the day I just play a bunch of numbers not the music.

p/s Of course this only applies to self-taught guitarists .
People who attend classes don't know what they're missing;)

This post has been edited by mgjg: Oct 22 2010, 05:54 PM

Choose a guitar suited for beginner, where the string tension is not so high you that you can press it easily. I recall my first guitar the tension was so high, and I was constantly getting the buzzing sound whenever an F or similar bar chord is played.

well said. a musician in general should be playing music, not blatantly and blindly reading notes. but then again, classical instruments often read notes. now don't get me wrong, i love classical instruments and stuff, but what really matters is the idiosyncracies of the player, channeling the original emotion. IF the player manages to understand and channel the original writer's emotions but reading through tabs, then i personally think it's ok....

posture is VERY VERY important, didn't find out the importance of it until i started learning jazz guitar. slouching is not acceptable, and it's most recommended that players wear their guitar straps while they practise, so they'll get use to the motion of the guitar when standing up.

faceless, tabs as in the numbers which represents the fret and string, not what you think it is

Hey guys I've got a question on chords,the D chord to be more specific:

You know that the usual way is 1st finger:3rd string,2nd fret
2nd finger:1st string,also on the 2nd fret
3rd finger:2nd string,3rd fret

Ok,so I have problem using this way,cos I can't seem to get it to sound right..so I switch the 1st and 2nd finger,so it would be:

1st finger:1st string,2nd fret
2nd finger:3rd string,2nd fret
3rd finger:2nd string,3rd fret

Is this ok?This is easier,but would it affect my playing in the future?

Thx

I'm a newbie too still in learning progress. But i can tell you what's the problem when you finger that way. First thing the good way of holding chords the finger position where you press down the string should be closest (right next) to fret right. You see, when you try to achieve this using the way you mentioned, you will tend to twist your wrist or bend your elbow towards right direction. Try 'genggam' the fretboard with all fingers front and thumb at the back first. The idea is while playing the chords you want to maintain this posture throughout the song, not 'kung-fu' with the wrist to get the chords right.

I used to have bad habit of holding C chord, i got it right but my arm really tilt sideward, eventually i realized although it's super hard at first to hold C with minimum arm movement your finger stretching will develop and play with ease with palm still holding the fretboard firm.

i recommend you stick with the usual way better....

Hmm.. I thought that the palm musn't be holding the fretboard?This is where I learn:I'm self thought JustinGuitar

Ok thx,yea I think that will be more proper

Sorry typo, i mean neck (the below part) not fretboard obviously how can play guitar if you cover fretboard with palm .

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Added on October 23, 2010, 11:21 pmWhat i mean is when just started you find it hard to hold certain chords without hitting other unrelated strings right? So for most newbies their solution is to readjust wrist/arm angle bring it further front, sideways and whatnot. The key is actually only your fingers, have to really curl it and as long you keep habit to maintain same position the finger itselves will develop and reach the notes easily.

This post has been edited by shadoxicated: Oct 23 2010, 11:21 PM