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kaven
post Aug 15 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 16 2012, 12:09 AM)
er.. yeah those are the initials  sweat.gif
Pardon moi - got used to the terms used in LYN - DDI (direct debit instructions AKA monthly standing instructions) thus doing Dollar Cost Averaging
OR every period execute manually value cost averaging or value investing.

Ok down to the heart of the matter - where U shd do it now or later right?
Opinions / Point of View follows (not rules yar)
Simple - 1st things 1st, have U built up at least an emergency buffer / kitty of 3 months' average expenses?
eg. Say U spend $12K pa all in all, thus your average expenses pm = $1K, thus U should if possible have $3K squirrelled off somewhere safe & stable - eg. savings a/c + FD
This $ is to save one's tail in case of emergencies (no, not when U NEED that new coach bag or S3) INSTEAD OF BEING FORCED TO SELL your investment to cover tail. When one is forced to sell, it may not be the right time and one can incur losses easily.
Why?
Simple - ALL investments (excluding FD, savings a/c lar - those are generally "storage") have some sort of transaction costs, either when buying or selling or BOTH. Unless one is incredibly lucky, usually it takes time to break even then make profits.

Then after building the above OR while working on the above, checkout what amount of risks U need to cover.
(Keep in mind, insurance is to cover and transfer your risks, NOT as investments.)
eg.
a. if U have economic dependants, pls ensure U have death insurance - yes, death insurance, not life as it pays out after death tongue.gif
Get enough and at the best bang for the buck.
b. does your employer cover enough hospitalization & medical? - no, then please look into it.
Again, insurance should be used as a risk transfer (to insurance Co) and to cover costs which will be disastrous to U or your loved ones.
Buy enough for now + maybe forseeable future (3 years? 5 years?) - balance your coverage needs with costs/affordability.

Now, when U have the above 2 settled - U should have a good hands-on on money & risk management, ie. spending less than U earn by living below your means, thus enabling U to build and accumulate wealth. In addition, WHILE doing the above, learn about asset allocation, classes of assets, investment methodologies like dollar cost averaging, value cost averaging, value investing, growth investing, trend, etc.

Then start accumulating your ammo for investments and while accumulating - formulate a big pix plan, perhaps based on asset allocation + execution methodology coupled with selected/filtered specific investments (eg. DCA with PFEPRF, VCA with PIX, value investing with stocks like PBANK, NESTLE, DLADY, etc.)

Track them and manage them as per your plans and methodologies.
By tracking them, U can then review monthly, yearly, etc. whether your picks AND methodologies work - else tweak.

Phew.. digest digest heheh. Hope the above summary helps.
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woahhh,that's quite a lot to digest especial those financing terms~~ shall take baby steps to learn bit by bit.
Wong Sifu u can write a good introduction on 'How to Start Investment'~ Thanks for the good summary and information!!
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post Aug 16 2012, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(kaven @ Aug 15 2012, 06:43 PM)
So can i seek some advise from sifus here, is it wise for me to start invest in Unit Trust now?
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Read Millionaire Teacher: The Nine Rules of Wealth You Should Have Learned in School before you start investing. It opens you eyes before you make any decisions. You can finish this book in just about 1 week.
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post Aug 16 2012, 06:15 AM

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QUOTE(alvinlim84 @ Aug 15 2012, 05:51 PM)
Starting graduate with RM2.5k is consider not bad. Many people who are not working professional still below that amount. I remember my first job salary RM1200 with diploma (year 2005) and work until 3k (year 2009) only get my first car. After get a car, saving not much already.. So the conclusion is one must learn how to manage money wisely.

The expert always said what most important thing we always forget is to invest in ourselves. Read more financial books and improve financial knowledge. This is how I get started to change my mindset and keep learning everyday smile.gif
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Yup... We need to change otherwise we left behind... I saw and know many opportunity to gain more money in investment before BUT no money to buy. So now take challenge to get more money... read more... thinking more... work harder and harder and yes the results is as what i expected as I able to invest in multiple channel now.

Salary increment does make thing better and better as I could not see to do business venture for now. At least but not least... for better future.


Added on August 16, 2012, 6:23 am
QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Aug 15 2012, 11:09 PM)
er.. yeah those are the initials  sweat.gif
Pardon moi - got used to the terms used in LYN - DDI (direct debit instructions AKA monthly standing instructions) thus doing Dollar Cost Averaging
OR every period execute manually value cost averaging or value investing.

Ok down to the heart of the matter - where U shd do it now or later right?
Opinions / Point of View follows (not rules yar)
Simple - 1st things 1st, have U built up at least an emergency buffer / kitty of 3 months' average expenses?
eg. Say U spend $12K pa all in all, thus your average expenses pm = $1K, thus U should if possible have $3K squirrelled off somewhere safe & stable - eg. savings a/c + FD
This $ is to save one's tail in case of emergencies (no, not when U NEED that new coach bag or S3) INSTEAD OF BEING FORCED TO SELL your investment to cover tail. When one is forced to sell, it may not be the right time and one can incur losses easily.
Why?
Simple - ALL investments (excluding FD, savings a/c lar - those are generally "storage") have some sort of transaction costs, either when buying or selling or BOTH. Unless one is incredibly lucky, usually it takes time to break even then make profits.

Then after building the above OR while working on the above, checkout what amount of risks U need to cover.
(Keep in mind, insurance is to cover and transfer your risks, NOT as investments.)
eg.
a. if U have economic dependants, pls ensure U have death insurance - yes, death insurance, not life as it pays out after death tongue.gif
Get enough and at the best bang for the buck.
b. does your employer cover enough hospitalization & medical? - no, then please look into it.
Again, insurance should be used as a risk transfer (to insurance Co) and to cover costs which will be disastrous to U or your loved ones.
Buy enough for now + maybe forseeable future (3 years? 5 years?) - balance your coverage needs with costs/affordability.

Now, when U have the above 2 settled - U should have a good hands-on on money & risk management, ie. spending less than U earn by living below your means, thus enabling U to build and accumulate wealth. In addition, WHILE doing the above, learn about asset allocation, classes of assets, investment methodologies like dollar cost averaging, value cost averaging, value investing, growth investing, trend, etc.

Then start accumulating your ammo for investments and while accumulating - formulate a big pix plan, perhaps based on asset allocation + execution methodology coupled with selected/filtered specific investments (eg. DCA with PFEPRF, VCA with PIX, value investing with stocks like PBANK, NESTLE, DLADY, etc.)

Track them and manage them as per your plans and methodologies.
By tracking them, U can then review monthly, yearly, etc. whether your picks AND methodologies work - else tweak.

Phew.. digest digest heheh. Hope the above summary helps.
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You are always great bro, as usual. rclxm9.gif

Hope more and more young people can digest what you said very well and take action. Yes perhaps, there will be more young millionaire in Malaysia..


This post has been edited by techie.opinion: Aug 16 2012, 06:23 AM
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post Aug 16 2012, 03:36 PM

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Im very new here and just wondering How much does personal accounting service cost? Include tax filing, advices and education
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post Aug 18 2012, 02:31 PM

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Hello,

I am a 21 year old med student, finishing my course in another 3 years. My mother just passed away, and I inherited around RM50k in cash.
- I have no student loans (dad's paying)
- 1k per month duit makan, sewa from family.
- Savings around RM300 a month.
- Already have car, finished paying.
- Side business, variable income, around 5k per year.
- no insurance
- no investment at all, actually.
- Savings around RM2k

I want to ask the best way to invest RM 50k to at least double it in 5 years time, if possible, working around with what I already have.

I realized I have to start planning for the future, parents won't be there for you forever.

Any help or pointers would be great, thank you.
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post Aug 18 2012, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(kaitokid @ Aug 18 2012, 02:31 PM)
Hello,

I am a 21 year old med student, finishing my course in another 3 years. My mother just passed away, and I inherited around RM50k in cash.
- I have no student loans (dad's paying)
- 1k per month duit makan, sewa from family.
- Savings around RM300 a month.
- Already have car, finished paying.
- Side business, variable income, around 5k per year.
- no insurance
- no investment at all, actually.
- Savings around RM2k

I want to ask the best way to invest RM 50k to at least double it in 5 years time, if possible, working around with what I already have.

I realized I have to start planning for the future, parents won't be there for you forever.

Any help or pointers would be great, thank you.
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Good that U are "awake".

er.. U are looking to invest that $50K for 14%pa to 15%pa compounded returns / CAGR? That's what it takes to AT LEAST double one's $ in 5 years time.
How much are U willing to risk losing and/or how much are U willing to put time and effort to manage that investment first?

FYI - i don't know about the sifus and gurus in LYN, but a CONSISTENT 15%pa compounded investment returns is considered very good UNLESS a 1998 or 2008 happened and one got in at the bottom of the run-up, taking all risks/losses into account.
On the other hand, if it's a business, 15%pa is so-so only given the blood, sweat, tears given to the business to grow it (in addition to the $).

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Aug 18 2012, 04:46 PM
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post Aug 18 2012, 08:05 PM

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this is my case

8k in equity/bond fund (plan to lock this for at least 3 to 5 years)
7k investment-linked insurance GE, paid 9 years, 1.2k annum commitment.
5k cash.

I plan to have a second hand car by early 2014. Around 15k budget.
Saving 800 per month.

Help =)
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post Aug 18 2012, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE

Good that U are "awake".

er.. U are looking to invest that $50K for 14%pa to 15%pa compounded returns / CAGR? That's what it takes to AT LEAST double one's $ in 5 years time.
How much are U willing to risk losing and/or how much are U willing to put time and effort to manage that investment first?

FYI - i don't know about the sifus and gurus in LYN, but a CONSISTENT 15%pa compounded investment returns is considered very good UNLESS a 1998 or 2008 happened and one got in at the bottom of the run-up, taking all risks/losses into account.
On the other hand, if it's a business, 15%pa is so-so only given the blood, sweat, tears given to the business to grow it (in addition to the $).
Now that I think about it, it doesn't have to be in 5 years time. I'm planning to make the 50k a long time investment 10 years or so, maybe a fixed deposit or unit trust? Or is there a better way?

Finishing med school, I know I'll at least have a decent job with decent pay God willing, if not with the 50k growing in investment, I can start a new business. So what is the best for a long term investment with decent returns for RM50k
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post Aug 18 2012, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(kaitokid @ Aug 18 2012, 09:34 PM)
Now that I think about it, it doesn't have to be in 5 years time. I'm planning to make the 50k a long time investment 10 years or so, maybe a fixed deposit or unit trust? Or is there a better way?

Finishing med school, I know I'll at least have a decent job with decent pay God willing, if not with the 50k growing in investment, I can start a new business. So what is the best for a long term investment with decent returns for RM50k
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Well, i'm definitely not a bizman hehe - i suck at it coz all i see are costs & dangers sweat.gif

As for for investments, if i may suggest, best to build up a good foundation and knowledge first - what is acceptable to me, may not be acceptable to U (risks/rewards/timeline). Thus, if i may share the thoughts i bounced with another fellow forumer who's toe-ing into investments:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1577849/+1551

Hope it helps.
More specific Qs and ideas/possibilities are greatly welcomed - this is after all a forum, for us to bounce ideas/knowledge thumbup.gif
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post Aug 28 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(icycool @ Sep 27 2010, 06:29 PM)
I am a degree graduate and am earning only 1700 per monthbeing an executive in retail industry, but im happy with my job and my current lifestyle. Having work for 3 years, i have limited savings due to the low salary and high living expenses. But this doesnt deter me from saving and start investing. Got no car, no house, no property whatsoever. Bad Bad

Due to peer pressure, i think its better off to bump up my self confidence and look for better opportunities, when most of my friends are earning more than 5k per month, im earning 1.7k. This is what we choose, what i have choosen 3 years ago. But this thinking had been in my mind the first day i started my current job, and time flies, 3 years later, im still here, complaining that i earn peanuts, but did i do anything? =/ Well, obviously i dint do enough. We must believe that there is a better and brighter sky out there.

For those who earn high income but complain that standard of living is too high, got not enough money to use, think of those like me who earn so little yet managed to save and invest. People earning 1k plus can start a family, by living within their means.  You can do it, the key is actually PERSONAL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. Take it personal, there is no plan that is for everyone. Manage it perrsonaly, do not just whine and complain like me =/

Now for those who are like me, always complain that pay is low, do you have capabilities that proved that you are indeed underpaid, if yes, anything been done? Ever look for better opportunities, i believe a lot of you would say No. Because im in the exact same situation so i understand =/ Again, it PERSONAL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. Its your life, its personal, its how you managed it. I have been giving it a lot of thought lately, im getting older, i already have a slow start up, now my resolution for 2011 is to get a new job. Albeit slower than those who earn more and save more, we can also achieve it, thru various ways.

Take charged. Make it personal.
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OMG you only get 1.7k after graduate? you should make some changes and do something on yourself.
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QUOTE(kaitokid @ Aug 18 2012, 02:31 PM)
Hello,

I am a 21 year old med student, finishing my course in another 3 years. My mother just passed away, and I inherited around RM50k in cash.
- I have no student loans (dad's paying)
- 1k per month duit makan, sewa from family.
- Savings around RM300 a month.
- Already have car, finished paying.
- Side business, variable income, around 5k per year.
- no insurance
- no investment at all, actually.
- Savings around RM2k

I want to ask the best way to invest RM 50k to at least double it in 5 years time, if possible, working around with what I already have.

I realized I have to start planning for the future, parents won't be there for you forever.

Any help or pointers would be great, thank you.
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My opinion is that you should take baby steps to start with. Given that you have 3 more years before earning any real income, i suggest you keep that 50k in FD for the timebeing.
How much do you know about property/stock/commodity investment and how much do you know about starting up a business? If you dont know much then you should invest in yourself first. Invest in yourself by reading investment related books, learn about financial planning and money management. This is the most boring step in financial success but it is also the most vital step. Talk to more experienced people, observe and listen to different ideas about money management.

If you are to start a business now, can you afford to lose 20-30k? do you have extra income to support your business or investment should it fails?
The other thing you have to consider is time. How much time have you got. You need to sacrifice lots of time to start up a business, never trust anyone with your hard earned money. Its a gift from your mum, you should be extra careful with it. I reckon the best thing you should do now is to invest your time in your studies, in yourself, learn more about finances. Then take your first step once you feel confident enough (my opinion would be after you earn your first paycheck).

Also don't forget once you graduate, in order to achieve more in your career, you need a lot of time and money as well (ie if you are keen to pursue specialty training).
Good luck.


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I am in my second year of working, and heres my cash flow statement:

Income:
Salary - 5000

Savings & Investments:
Savings, Unit Trust, Precious Metals, Stocks - 1300

Expenditure:
Masters study - 1500
Rent & utilities - 400
Parents - 400
Insurance - 200
Transport - 300

Pocket Money - 900

hoping that in the long run, the stock i own could generate me some side income.


This post has been edited by ballackahn: Aug 30 2012, 05:30 PM
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post Sep 2 2012, 10:29 AM

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Tauke wong, what do u think of the following:

Me, Freshgrad worked for 2 months, BT income about 3K to 3.5K depending on commission.
Gf, Freshgrad also, worked for 2 months, BT pay 2.2K fixed.
Our practice is to think of us as 1 entity, meaning all my GF's salary will be spend on whatever necessary, while all my salary will be untouched and saved in the bank.
What do you think?


Added on September 2, 2012, 10:34 amOh ya and we're both 22 this year.

Personal Balance Sheet:

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Added on September 2, 2012, 8:54 pm
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post Sep 3 2012, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Sep 2 2012, 10:29 AM)
Tauke wong, what do u think of the following:

Me, Freshgrad worked for 2 months, BT income about 3K to 3.5K depending on commission.
Gf, Freshgrad also, worked for 2 months, BT pay 2.2K fixed.
Our practice is to think of us as 1 entity, meaning all my GF's salary will be spend on whatever necessary, while all my salary will be untouched and saved in the bank.
What do you think?


Added on September 2, 2012, 10:34 amOh ya and we're both 22 this year.

Personal Balance Sheet:

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Added on September 2, 2012, 8:54 pm
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er.. bro BuBu & partner, i'm no tauke leh (although i like eating tauge tongue.gif) - just a worker ant like 80% of the world's population sweat.gif

Ok onto the numbers and "opinion-ating":
1. Concept & Approach
Congratulations to your partner & U on having such thinking & approach - a truly "one for all & all for one" + a great savings and wealth generating approach too.
In addition, both of U didn't fall into the "car trap" - a SERIOUS destroyer of wealth in Malaysia, especially when it can cost nearly 1/3 of an apartment.
U sure both of U are 22? notworthy.gif
Dagnabit - i wish i had such discipline & thoughts in my younger & dumber days, thus wouldn't have gotten into so much kaka doh.gif

2. Numbers
er.. what's "BT Income"? My apologies - old uncle here have not heard such terms used with other fellows hehe. I'm not "too in" so to speak.
I'm assuming it's net income here yar.
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A very good savings rate 57%+ of net income! thumbup.gif
er.. i'm assuming PTPTN loan is being repaid as well in your total expenses yar sweat.gif

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Extrapolation of your cash investments/assets, based on average returns pa 7% + average inflation pa 4% and NO INCREASE IN SAVINGS pm!
Realistically, as one's salary & commission grows, savings can grow.

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Extrapolation of your EPF and EPF-related investments

Looking at BOTH the extrapolations of EPF-related & cash investments, both of U will be reaching financial freedom OR at the VERY LEAST, comfortable retirement.
Note that there's an NPV (net present value) calculated to give U an idea what your future value of $ is worth today.

Now all U have to do is:
1. Keep on being mindful of expenses & saving like what U are doing - half for spending & half for saving
2. Learn how to manage $, risks & invest. this er.. summary (though long-winded) may help http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1577849/+1551
3. Hit your financial freedom level 0 (basics / bare necessities), then go for level 1/2/3 (better retirement lifestyle) if wanted OR just relax rclxm9.gif
U may want to learn to "give back" effectively as U travel through (1.) to (3.).

Attached is the ZIP of the Excel files snapshot above - for your easy SIMULATION/WHAT IFs if U are Excel inclined.
Please note that the above are just extrapolations and personal opinions, not gospel truths.
Just a thought notworthy.gif

Hm.. funny, screenshots 2 & 3 black only, even though checked and re-uploaded.. doh.gif

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 3 2012, 12:11 PM)
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Woah tauke wong thx for the long reply, go home only digest tonight, now working

BT = not nett, sorry....

And i havent gotten myself any insurance, cuz totally dont know what should I buy, have 0 knowledge in it. But company does provide me with MSIG card...

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Sep 3 2012, 12:25 PM)
Woah tauke wong thx for the long reply, go home only digest tonight, now working

BT = Before Tax sad.gif

And i havent gotten myself any insurance, cuz totally dont know what should I buy, have 0 knowledge in it. But company does provide me with MSIG card...
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oh heheh BT, like PBT (profit before tax) & PAT (profit after tax) in accounting terms - i baka doh.gif
well, the % still looks good.
As for the the simulations of cash investments and EPF-related, i'm sure U can play with the Excel provided to "see" the WHAT IFs since you're accounting-related (i assume yar hehe BT from PAT & PBT)

As for insurance (death, disability & disease) - play with the earlier included Excel sheet as well.

For medical insurance, U'd have to do a bit more digging / thinking - on whether cukup or not your current employer coverage AND what U want your hospitalization to cover.
eg. for me, hospitalization is to cover more than $10K surgery BUT less than $100K surgery.
For the $100K onwards stuff, to me that's dread disease liao - ie. i'd use one of my 3Ds (death, disease, disability) to cover that cost and try to save my life, failing which, my 2 other 3D insurances kicks in to take care of my love ones.

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post Sep 4 2012, 10:25 AM

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2004 the fresh graduate already can get 1.8k

today still 1.7k ????

this is totally wrong !




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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 3 2012, 12:11 PM)
er.. bro BuBu & partner, i'm no tauke leh (although i like eating tauge tongue.gif) - just a worker ant like 80% of the world's population sweat.gif

Ok onto the numbers and "opinion-ating":
1. Concept & Approach
Congratulations to your partner & U on having such thinking & approach - a truly "one for all & all for one" + a great savings and wealth generating approach too.
In addition, both of U didn't fall into the "car trap" - a SERIOUS destroyer of wealth in Malaysia, especially when it can cost nearly 1/3 of an apartment.
U sure both of U are 22? notworthy.gif
Dagnabit - i wish i had such discipline & thoughts in my younger & dumber days, thus wouldn't have gotten into so much kaka doh.gif

2. Numbers
er.. what's "BT Income"? My apologies - old uncle here have not heard such terms used with other fellows hehe. I'm not "too in" so to speak.
I'm assuming it's net income here yar.
Attached Image
A very good savings rate 57%+ of net income!  thumbup.gif
er.. i'm assuming PTPTN loan is being repaid as well in your total expenses yar sweat.gif

Attached Image
Extrapolation of your cash investments/assets, based on average returns pa 7% + average inflation pa 4% and NO INCREASE IN SAVINGS pm!
Realistically, as one's salary & commission grows, savings can grow.

Attached Image
Extrapolation of your EPF and EPF-related investments

Looking at BOTH the extrapolations of EPF-related & cash investments, both of U will be reaching financial freedom OR at the VERY LEAST, comfortable retirement.
Note that there's an NPV (net present value) calculated to give U an idea what your future value of $ is worth today.

Now all U have to do is:
1. Keep on being mindful of expenses & saving like what U are doing - half for spending & half for saving
2. Learn how to manage $, risks & invest. this er.. summary (though long-winded) may help http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1577849/+1551
3. Hit your financial freedom level 0 (basics / bare necessities), then go for level 1/2/3 (better retirement lifestyle) if wanted OR just relax  rclxm9.gif
U may want to learn to "give back" effectively as U travel through (1.) to (3.).

Attached is the ZIP of the Excel files snapshot above - for your easy SIMULATION/WHAT IFs if U are Excel inclined.
Please note that the above are just extrapolations and personal opinions, not gospel truths.
Just a thought  notworthy.gif

Hm.. funny, screenshots 2 & 3 black only, even though checked and re-uploaded..  doh.gif
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Excel guru as well biggrin.gif Thx for sharing!
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Anoneh - bros & sis of the numbers & probabilities, something interesting to share:
1. FIRECalc - a "Monte Carlo" simulation for your Portfolio / Asset Allocation VS savings & investing VS spending
http://firecalc.com/
an example of a filled firecalc - just click on the SUBMIT button to see the chart & results, then tweak as U wish:
http://firecalc.com/index.php?wdamt=77000&...alcVersion=3.0&

2. Tipster - an Excel "Financial Planner & Portfolio simulator"
http://www.prospercuity.com/download.htm

Have fun biggrin.gif
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Wong Sifu,

i read with great interest & i applaud you for sharing your insight & knowledge with the rest of "ignorant" people like me here. I wonder if you could drop few pointers on my situation.
I’m 34 years old, engineering line.
Drawing MYR12.5 gross, net ~9k.
After minus all expenditure/insurance/loan etc - left around 1k for saving.
Asset (cash/stock/FD) ~ 50k. I’m planning to get married early next year, so bye2 to another 10k or so.
I sold my house in JB ( bad decision) & lost money. Supporting siblings financial, parents & even my ex-gf’s hence not much saving ( yes, I’m very generous hehe)
I have 4 insurance policy
Insurance 1 – MYR200 per mth/ 20 yrs (maturity 2018)
Insurance 2 – MYR200 per mth/ (maturity 2018)
Insurance 3 - MYR100 per mth/ (maturity 2018)
I foresee a return of MYR200k upon maturity in 2018.
All 3 insurance policy above from MICS, supporting my best friend when she was agent back then!
She left some time ago, I have no idea if MCIS will still entertain me if I would like to check the value & possible gain upon maturity of those policies.
But in a way its good cause I don’t really have discipline to save.
Insurance 4 – SGD100 per month / 10 years (maturity 2014), conservative estimation can get MYR50k with 2.5x exchange rate.
Saving per month not much cause a lot responsibilities, supporting parents, wife to be & lifestyle.
EPF ~ 100k, just started working in Malaysia for the past 3 yrs. All this while in SG no CPF
Credit card debts – 5-6k
Btw, I’m planning to marry my Muslim GF hence I would be eligible to invest in ASB.
I do not know if I should take loan to invest in ASB, I read some said not worth it while some said go for it.
What would be your advice to me on how i could further maximize my gain for future?
many thanks


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