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jootat
post Sep 4 2012, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Sep 3 2012, 12:11 PM)
er.. bro BuBu & partner, i'm no tauke leh (although i like eating tauge tongue.gif) - just a worker ant like 80% of the world's population sweat.gif

Ok onto the numbers and "opinion-ating":
1. Concept & Approach
Congratulations to your partner & U on having such thinking & approach - a truly "one for all & all for one" + a great savings and wealth generating approach too.
In addition, both of U didn't fall into the "car trap" - a SERIOUS destroyer of wealth in Malaysia, especially when it can cost nearly 1/3 of an apartment.
U sure both of U are 22? notworthy.gif
Dagnabit - i wish i had such discipline & thoughts in my younger & dumber days, thus wouldn't have gotten into so much kaka doh.gif

2. Numbers
er.. what's "BT Income"? My apologies - old uncle here have not heard such terms used with other fellows hehe. I'm not "too in" so to speak.
I'm assuming it's net income here yar.
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A very good savings rate 57%+ of net income!  thumbup.gif
er.. i'm assuming PTPTN loan is being repaid as well in your total expenses yar sweat.gif

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Extrapolation of your cash investments/assets, based on average returns pa 7% + average inflation pa 4% and NO INCREASE IN SAVINGS pm!
Realistically, as one's salary & commission grows, savings can grow.

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Extrapolation of your EPF and EPF-related investments

Looking at BOTH the extrapolations of EPF-related & cash investments, both of U will be reaching financial freedom OR at the VERY LEAST, comfortable retirement.
Note that there's an NPV (net present value) calculated to give U an idea what your future value of $ is worth today.

Now all U have to do is:
1. Keep on being mindful of expenses & saving like what U are doing - half for spending & half for saving
2. Learn how to manage $, risks & invest. this er.. summary (though long-winded) may help http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1577849/+1551
3. Hit your financial freedom level 0 (basics / bare necessities), then go for level 1/2/3 (better retirement lifestyle) if wanted OR just relax  rclxm9.gif
U may want to learn to "give back" effectively as U travel through (1.) to (3.).

Attached is the ZIP of the Excel files snapshot above - for your easy SIMULATION/WHAT IFs if U are Excel inclined.
Please note that the above are just extrapolations and personal opinions, not gospel truths.
Just a thought  notworthy.gif

Hm.. funny, screenshots 2 & 3 black only, even though checked and re-uploaded..  doh.gif
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Excel guru as well biggrin.gif Thx for sharing!
jootat
post Sep 28 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Sep 27 2012, 04:11 PM)
Well talk is easy and calculation can always show great profit for 'average' 12% gain per year. For those who have been investing a while knows that past performance is not equal to future performance. Also the gains will not be steady, there are bad times and good, depending when you are buying. Invest based on your risk tolerance, and if you take 12% as a guide then your risk tolerance is very high...Question is do you have the holding power if your stocks suddenly take a 40%-50% dive? or do you dare to double down once it hits these number?  laugh.gif Well it happened in 1997,2001 and latest at 2008... wink.gif
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thumbup.gif that's exactly what i experienced. Last time i also have some spare cash and thinking to put in PMF as i am thinking 3 - 5 years as medium term investment. Guess what? till today i am still making lost. But i have recently re-invest in those funds and average out the cost. Hopefully i will get break even or gain some profit in next 2 years. That's pretty sad isn't it? Total of 7 years and i am just hoping for break even or slightly gain.

P/s: Just to make things clear, i am pretty lazy to manage my portfolio last time in terms of PMF investment. But i will pay extra attention to it now biggrin.gif
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post Sep 28 2012, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 28 2012, 10:54 AM)
lost money in which fund and swich to which fund now?
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China fund bro (PCSF and PCIF) - Making lost more than 40%. These two fund i top up the investment of my initial cost of investment to average the cost.
PIADF i switch to PDSF

Did share my problems in PMF thread few weeks before ... Thx to all the sifu there for advice but in the end i follow the advice given by my agent.

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