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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY

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post Oct 5 2010, 03:57 PM

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No player is untouchable.

When the player played poorly, then give other a chance.
Just like Ngog, top scorer for the team but yet being denied a starting place.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 5 2010, 03:28 PM)
My heart broke into pieces when I saw the headlines on the Star Paper today..................
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what did it say? share la...

but i couldnt care less what the newspapers here say. they're mostly biased towards their own team. I feel the writers lack a certain standard of professionalism. but thats just me...

rushmode: carra's age is fast catching up... but who to replace him in CB... he is slow, we all know that... but his pin-point tackles are valuable. its scary to see skrtel lunged in for the ball... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 03:57 PM)
what did it say? share la...

but i couldnt care less what the newspapers here say. they're mostly biased towards their own team. I feel the writers lack a certain standard of professionalism. but thats just me...

rushmode: carra's age is fast catching up... but who to replace him in CB... he is slow, we all know that... but his pin-point tackles are valuable. its scary to see skrtel lunged in for the ball...  sweat.gif
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you forgot that we have a very good young CB - Danny Agger.. he can keep the pass the ball instead of huffing the ball forward too
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 5 2010, 11:49 AM)
I was hoping for Dalglish to be appointed after Rafa left. Is this me clinging to the past? I don't see it that way. I spoke earlier about how the fans empowered the players, leading to player power. Dalglish is bigger than Carra or Stevie and is in the position to make hardline decisions. He will have the respect of players, the fans and even the board. The same cannot be said of Hodgson. Managerial talent aside, Dalglish's appointment would boost morale and spark excitement and enthusiasm not just amongst fans, but amongst all other stakeholders. You are right, this isn't some fantasy and results may not be instant but given our limitations, I fail to see how his appointment would be a bad thing.
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kenny did put his name forward to be considered for the managerial position. so why didnt he get the job ? i can only assume the board / selection committee has decided on roy instead of kenny or other candidates. imagine kenny's frustration when he was asked to oversee the candidates for the job that he offered himself as a better alternative. at this stage, i would like to see him give it a go, its not like he's been out of football, he's very much still involve in today's game. i will like to see him take this job as a temporary basis till all the owners issue are resolved and till we are in the right state to appoint a top european manager again, i mean when kenny is willing to step aside.

QUOTE(sokaik80 @ Oct 5 2010, 12:10 PM)
i watched aquillani played for juve against inter d other day
he's fit (lasted almost 70mins), showed great 1st touch n good vision in distributing passess...much2 better than lucas-poulsen...
why RH bothered to loan him out?
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this puzzles me too, as much as meireles is a first team player for both porto and his country, roy could have kept aquilani, work on his fitness, and used to 10mil to purchase a striker. after all, a striker was all he wanted. why didnt he stick to it ?

and talking about why he bought poulsen, roy worked with him before, back in denmark if i'm not mistaken. its not about roy scouted him whatsoever, its just he knew what kinda player christian is and got it his way as juve didnt see him as first team material.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 03:57 PM)
what did it say? share la...

but i couldnt care less what the newspapers here say. they're mostly biased towards their own team. I feel the writers lack a certain standard of professionalism. but thats just me...

rushmode: carra's age is fast catching up... but who to replace him in CB... he is slow, we all know that... but his pin-point tackles are valuable. its scary to see skrtel lunged in for the ball...  sweat.gif
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My view.
Carra last ditch tackle and game reading is better than Skrtel and still valuable to the team. Not to mention, Skrtel like to hold on opponent/opponent shirt in own penalty area, when set-piece and corner kick time
Pairing another CB with a better pace can compliment each other.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 5 2010, 03:56 PM)
well said lilredridinghood.

the current relevations/accusations about Carragher are news to me. Always thought he was the model professional... Perhaps age is catching up to him and the only way for him to feel secure is by having a manager who plays to his strengths?

at the moment i really do not know what to think and who to believe anymore, which is sad. Rafa's gone, so I am actively supporting 'pool again, but oh what a nice mess we are in!
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I prefer to believe it's just a fallacy, but if he did mention something like that, perhaps someone should remind him on who was the one who revived his career by placing him next to Hyypia?

Haha, you can't deny ain't it, you just dislike the Spanish manager.


Added on October 5, 2010, 4:13 pm
QUOTE(-nana- @ Oct 5 2010, 04:00 PM)
kenny did put his name forward to be considered for the managerial position. so why didnt he get the job ? i can only assume the board / selection committee has decided on roy instead of kenny or other candidates. imagine kenny's frustration when he was asked to oversee the candidates for the job that he offered himself as a better alternative. at this stage, i would like to see him give it a go, its not like he's been out of football, he's very much still involve in today's game. i will like to see him take this job as a temporary basis till all the owners issue are resolved and till we are in the right state to appoint a top european manager again, i mean when kenny is willing to step aside.
this puzzles me too, as much as meireles is a first team player for both porto and his country, roy could have kept aquilani, work on his fitness, and used to 10mil to purchase a striker. after all, a striker was all he wanted. why didnt he stick to it ?

and talking about why he bought poulsen, roy worked with him before, back in denmark if i'm not mistaken. its not about roy scouted him whatsoever, its just he knew what kinda player christian is and got it his way as juve didnt see him as first team material.
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Speculation says that the main reason Rafa left was because he was fighting too much for Liverpool FC and the fans, he had too much influence and turned the fans against the owners. Appointing the King will only further expose their wrongdoings and King Kenny is Liverpool, he's bigger than Steven Gerrard, who I feel only cares about winning medals and even Jamie Carragher. Fans will not pay attention to both iconic players anymore. Jamie Redknapp, Alan Hansen, Grame Souness will no longer have any credibility, not that they have much anyway in their articles. Henry Winter's articles will be treated as a pinch of salt.

So does Purslow want that? A guy who has so much power? More so than Rafa Benitez who seemed to have done not much wrong in most fans' eyes?

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 5 2010, 04:01 PM)
My view.
Carra last ditch tackle and game reading is better than Skrtel and still valuable to the team. Not to mention, Skrtel like to hold on opponent/opponent shirt in own penalty area, when set-piece and corner kick time
Pairing another CB with a better pace can compliment each other.
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thats the thing... my heart jumps everytime a player is in our box with skrtel... id prefer to see Agger pairing with Carra... Agger has pace and he can score too.
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i didnt watch the match as i know we either lose or endup another lucky draw.. as i read few pages of comments, it same familiar problems again,,i also dont know what to say, as many of the comments here repeated for every weeks,,only 1 thing i can say, we needs to sign a new dm as poulsen was totally not meant for bpl standard, his signing in the 1st place was an idiot move made, further more he seems to be rh favorite choice for no reason at all..
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QUOTE(ELm_ELm @ Oct 5 2010, 04:20 PM)
i didnt watch the match as i know we either lose or endup another lucky draw.. as i read few pages of comments, it same familiar problems again,,i also dont know what to say, as many of the comments here repeated for every weeks,,only 1 thing i can say, we needs to sign a new dm as poulsen was totally not meant for bpl standard, his signing in the 1st place was an idiot move made, further more he seems to be rh favorite choice for no reason at all..
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post Oct 5 2010, 04:25 PM

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They Never played 4-4-2 AT ALL!
Roy is a noob!


Added on October 5, 2010, 4:27 pmAND I MEAN IT! NEVER !

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 04:22 PM)
I salute your passion.
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i was too busy as my work require me to, although i can salvage bit time for the game, i chose not to as i know after the match i will end up cursing rh..
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post Oct 5 2010, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ELm_ELm @ Oct 5 2010, 04:20 PM)
i didnt watch the match as i know we either lose or endup another lucky draw..
Don't mean to make a big deal out of this but this is a lousy reason not to watch a game. Fairplay if you have work commitments like madmoz or family commitments but not to watch because you know we won't win? Come on lah. Can you imagine if every fan felt the same way? Anfield would be empty. It's time to get behind the team especially now when they are down and need our support. You probably didn't mean for it to sound as bad as it did, but it did sound pretty bad mate. There definitely is not a good reason not to watch the team.
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What a terrible result on Sunday and what a terrible position to be in now. Ironically, what may impact on our results/position is not on the pitch. We wait with abated breath whether RBS will take over LFC tomorrow and get LFC a new owner before the end of October.

I believe that will give the manager and players a lift.

Blast me if you want, but I believe RB was fortunate to inherit a good team from Houllier whereas RH inherited a mess.. Yes Poulsen may take a longer time to adjust to the PL than RH thought but he's still better than Lucas and RB bought many more duds during his time.

Skrtle and Johnson have to go. They have caused our defence to become so fragile this season.

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Actually neither have been that solid defensively in the past. We miss the giant handiplast called mascherano.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 5 2010, 04:50 PM)
Actually neither have been that solid defensively in the past. We miss the giant handiplast called mascherano.
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Good Read here on Roy and why the club did not appoint the King.

"Unity among the fans is something Tom Hicks, George Gillett, Martin Broughton and Christian Purslow don’t want."

http://liverpoolfc.wellredmag.co.uk/Liverp...-blackpool.html


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Oh, got an email from an old friend, a passionate manc. If the situation wasn't quite so dire, it would have been funny :-

"Think on the bright side. It cannot get any worse as RH's in his usual table position. For once he probably has the necessary experience!"


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why was torres taken off early of the 1st half?
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Oct 5 2010, 04:46 PM)
Blast me if you want, but I believe RB was fortunate to inherit a good team from Houllier whereas RH inherited a mess.. Yes Poulsen may take a longer time to adjust to the PL than RH thought but he's still better than Lucas and RB bought many more duds during his time.
I do get rather irrate when people claim that Rafa's 2005 Champions League run was down to luck. You cannot get lucky over the course of so many games. What made it more amazing was that he did it with bit part players. I cannot however also ignore the fact that we finished below Everton in the league the very same season, only to qualify on a technicality. Rafa didn't really inherit too good a team. The likes of Cisse, Baros, Smicer, Biscan, and Traore left shortly after Istanbul.

Hodgson actually had a pretty decent squad at his disposal but inherited a huge number of problems beginning with the ownership issue. Player morale was also an a low and he had little money to work with, leaving him to settle for "star" signings like Konchesky and Poulsen. We have a decent, if not thin squad but the atmosphere around Anfield now just reeks of negativity. Bad timing for Roy.

I've not seen anything in Poulsen's performances to indicate he's better than Lucas, who is quicker, younger, and more mobile. Poulsen only makes safe passes and even then, they aren't that accurate and he is way off the pace. He is also approaching the twilight of his career and won't get any better.
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Poulsen shouldnt be in the first 11. Its clear to everyone except RH...which is something odd. I would agree that RH had a better team to work with than RB. and also, i felt that RB brought a presence with him when he came to anfield... he was iconic in a sense...

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