QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 10:42 PM)
americanophobia?Can't blame you English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY
English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY
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Oct 6 2010, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 10:42 PM) americanophobia?Can't blame you |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE As Blackpool continued their fairytale start of life in Premier League, Liverpool FC continued to slump into yet another Premier League defear.6 points from 7 games. That's what Roy had done so far.Now, Liverpool were left languishing in the relegation zone.Unbelievable.The once mighty Reds had now gone on 5 games without a win. Full Article Now only i noticed that we already din win game for ages.Good article on Rafa and Hodgson.Seems like everyone want Hodgson to leave. |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:32 AM
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RH is more to a mid-table manager. He's capable of pushing the team from relegation crisis to.. highest spot would be EUROPA spot. Liverpool is too big for him to handle and I thought pools will go for Martin O'Neill instead. Maybe another 3 more games for him to prove he is capable of bringing Liverpool to a higher position in recent years?
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Oct 6 2010, 04:47 AM
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1)new buyers are coming in and the club is on the brink of being sold.. but Hicks and Gillett are doing everything they can to block the sale as they will not leave with nothing... Fxxk them!! (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716)
2)Torres will be out for derby against Everton due to the injury suffered on the match against Blackpool.. he is injury prone and overdo himself... 2 matches in 3 days time is too much for him.. RH should send an all-out-defend squad to Utrecht better... zz.. it's 0-0 anyway This post has been edited by CKW008: Oct 6 2010, 04:48 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 08:00 AM
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Hicks and Gillett bought the club for £218.9 million in 2007 but wants to sell at £800mil... crazy... of course potential buyers are turned off (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=830235&sec=england&cc=4716).
Here are terms and conditions to make the sale go through. The buyer would have to have: 1) Enough millions to pay up the debt (or convince RSB to defer the £237 million debt) - £237 million 2) Enough millions to make Liverpool competitive (transfer fees and wages)- £150 million 3) Enough millions to finance the building of the stadium- £400 million 4) Enough millions to buy the club from the yanks - I think they will sell at £400 million So all in all to make it work the buyer would have to have proof of funds totalling at least 1.187 billion to buy Liverpool. *I'm not a math person neither am I a businessman. Pls correct me if I'm wrong. Thx! This post has been edited by B@rt: Oct 6 2010, 08:01 AM |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:01 AM
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Quoted from BBC
"Liverpool have received two new bids that would wipe out the club's debts, but a huge split has divided the Anfield boardroom. A source close to the negotiations said: "Both bids would significantly reduce the debt and give the current owners their original investment back." But American co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett have claimed the offers "dramatically undervalue the club". The pair tried to remove two members of the board prior to Tuesday's meeting. Hicks and Gillett wanted managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre replaced by Mack Hicks - son of Tom - and Lori Kay McCutheon, who is vice president at Hicks Holdings. A Liverpool statement read: "This matter is now subject to legal review and a further announcement will be made in due course." To Gillett and Hicks, this is merely a business. They have no intention to learn about the situation on the pitch and how much this club has meant to us fans. |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:01 AM
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i amaze me when i read comment about Roy here. kinda make me wonder is this Red's space???
Rafa got a crooked season and people starts calling for him head. i do see the same people who were jumping up and down when we rout every team along the way to 2nd not too long ago. now Roy is getting the infamous treatment again. The club is in crisis now. Ownership is totally screwed. Results on field are worst then the worst scenario anyone thought. Does it help to be cursing and screaming for blood here??? comment about the club cause that is what we are suppose to be supporting. if there is anyone tat i will scream at are those players on the field. don come to me telling me about morale???? how much are they paid a week??? when it come to contract nego, do they actually think about getting a pay cut now looking at the club situation? They are paid obscene amount to deliver result, if the result don't come they should be the one answering. am i a Roy fanboy???? i am a red fan that's all. No one ask me to be a fan but i choose to be one. Is he the right one for the job? Its not up to me to decide. i'll vent my anger when result is bad (like now) but i'll stand by who is behind the club now (even if i think he is not totally suitable for the role). |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Oct 6 2010, 08:00 AM) Hicks and Gillett bought the club for £218.9 million in 2007 but wants to sell at £800mil... crazy... of course potential buyers are turned off (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=830235&sec=england&cc=4716). As expected, the cowboys won't let go. I thought the sale would take place after 15 Oct so that buyer won't have to pay #4. And since the yanks are resisting, maybe there isn't a #4 after all. If the board is trying to sell ASAP, I think they are expecting the yanks to pull off some unexpected magic tricks before the deadline. *cue The Good, The Bad, The Ugly theme*Here are terms and conditions to make the sale go through. The buyer would have to have: 1) Enough millions to pay up the debt (or convince RSB to defer the £237 million debt) - £237 million 2) Enough millions to make Liverpool competitive (transfer fees and wages)- £150 million 3) Enough millions to finance the building of the stadium- £400 million 4) Enough millions to buy the club from the yanks - I think they will sell at £400 million So all in all to make it work the buyer would have to have proof of funds totalling at least 1.187 billion to buy Liverpool. *I'm not a math person neither am I a businessman. Pls correct me if I'm wrong. Thx! What's important here is whether the new buyer will pay through some kind of loan. Because that's how all this shit started in the first place. |
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Oct 6 2010, 09:22 AM
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Dear Mr Hicks" is making waves, big RED waves in cyberspace :
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Oct 6 2010, 09:34 AM
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Watched it. Class video that is. Guys do your best to spread the video.
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Oct 6 2010, 09:42 AM
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From this article, it seems Liverpool won't be going into administration even if RBS takes over.
QUOTE In all likelihood, if RBS were to take control of the club then they would be looking to pass the club on to a new owner straight away – for a price way below the £600 million quoted by Tom Hicks and George Gillett! In order for the current owners to walk away with a profit they would need a buyer to come in with an offer in the region of £600 million. If a buyer were to come in with £420 million this would mean that Gillett and Hicks would walk away having recouped the investment they put into Kop Holdings via their Cayman Islands vehicle. But, if any potential buyers were to wait until after the October 15th deadline then it’s likely that they would be able to take control of the club for a figure somewhere in the region of just £280 million. And, before you get out the interest rate calculator, that figure includes the £40million in penalty fees! This would explain why George Gillett is so desperate to hold onto the club and would also explain why, after an initial flurry of interest, there are currently no parties publicly interested in buying it! Why offer £600 million now when you can offer half that in a couple of weeks?! So, whilst it looks inevitable that RBS will assume control of Liverpool Football Club on October 15th, it looks highly unlikely that this will result in the club entering administration. SOS: http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/10/04/li...sis-at-anfield/ |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(B@rt @ Oct 6 2010, 09:42 AM) From this article, it seems Liverpool won't be going into administration even if RBS takes over. Actually the article hardly explains anything as to why Liverpool won't go into administration. I believe the only info on that is from the board's (Purslow, I think) announcement that Liverpool is healthy enough financially and has enough money to keep the club running till the end of next season. You'll know soon enough if he lied. But I think he was telling the truth.SOS: http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/10/04/li...sis-at-anfield/ |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:23 AM
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come on fans everywhere!! unite and tell the yanks we dont want them anymore!
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Oct 6 2010, 10:40 AM
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i got a question to ask...
this 6 Oct date... does it mean 00:01 6 Oct (UK time), RBS can call in the loan or we still gotta wait till 23:59??? i keep reading this 6 Oct somehow this never come to mind. That is 24 hrs diff. The useless yank can still do a lot of damage in that 24 hrs. |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(demio121 @ Oct 6 2010, 10:40 AM) i got a question to ask... UK are 8 hours behind us meaning its already OCT 6 there and the dateline that the Yanks have to settle the outstanding debts is 15th not 6th as many reported. so expect lots of fervent news in regards to the ownership this upcoming weeks.this 6 Oct date... does it mean 00:01 6 Oct (UK time), RBS can call in the loan or we still gotta wait till 23:59??? i keep reading this 6 Oct somehow this never come to mind. That is 24 hrs diff. The useless yank can still do a lot of damage in that 24 hrs. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:12 AM
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yea... its confusing. I just did a search. some site is reporting 6 Oct ad deadline to refinance the debt. Some is reporting 15 Oct.
which is which??? I hope its 6 Oct. RBS have until end of the day to come in sell it to someone else. if its 15 Oct, those useless yank have another 9 days to wreck havoc. |
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Oct 6 2010, 11:34 AM
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Anybody know where to get 'Standard Corrupted' T-shirt?
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Oct 6 2010, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE Liverpool Football Club tonight issued the following press statement: SOS: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...-fc-statement-3The Board of Directors have received two excellent financial offers to buy the Club that would repay all its long-term debt. A Board meeting was called today to review these bids and approve a sale. Shortly prior to the meeting, the owners - Tom Hicks and George Gillett - sought to remove Managing Director Christian Purslow and Commercial Director Ian Ayre from the Board, seeking to replace them with Mack Hicks and Lori Kay McCutcheon. This matter is now subject to legal review and a further announcement will be made in due course. Meanwhile Martin Broughton, Christian Purslow and Ian Ayre continue to explore every possible route to achieving a sale of the Club at the earliest opportunity. greedy basterds.. trying to fired the bored members just because they wanted to accept bids that under their expectations. yanks out!!! |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Oct 5 2010, 08:37 PM) I'm not sure what you really meant here, but the circumstances at Anfield is never going to be favourable to any manager, as Roy found out harshly. Plus, Rafa was willing to put up with the situation and make amends to his mistakes. He has publicly stated that he has listed and wanted to address all the on-field problems. After all, the team was his and so as the problems. In any given case, finishing 7th after the season as runner-ups warrants drastic action but Liverpool's fragile state meant that a change of manager runs a high risk of catastrophe. I would've preferred the club taking the less risky route. It could be a matter of perspective but my visions of Rafa towards the end of his tenure was man who was constantly frustrated by the lack of financial support he got from the board/owners, and who repeatedly undermined almost half the squad by indirectly claiming they weren't good enough. He didn't say it in so many words but it's how I would interpret it as a player if my manager constantly says he needs 3-5 more players. His frustration was also made clear when he opted to engage the likes of Fergie in the press, something he would not have done early in his tenure. If you ask me, the best way to deal with Fergie is to ignore him. If you compare him with when he first arrived, much has changed. He would previously never engage in mind games, preferring instead to focus on the team and winning games. He would also not complain about having an average squad, or about players getting injured e.g. during our run up to Istanbul/Athens. Pressure and frustration however got to him and felt the incessant need to defend himself each time a microphone was put in fornt of him. It's like I've said many times. I am fond of Rafa but I felt that circumstances have pushed him to the brink and it was best to part ways. Sources have stated that he is now more relaxed with Inter so good on him. QUOTE(demio121 @ Oct 6 2010, 09:01 AM) am i a Roy fanboy???? i am a red fan that's all. No one ask me to be a fan but i choose to be one. Is he the right one for the job? Its not up to me to decide. i'll vent my anger when result is bad (like now) but i'll stand by who is behind the club now (even if i think he is not totally suitable for the role). It's no secret that like many fans, I was sceptical of Hodgson from the start but we have to make do with what we've got. I really think he is in over his head and in a short time, has made some bizzare decision on the pitch, and blurted out confusing statements. Like you I too stand behind the club, but it doesn't mean I won't chastise players or managers I feel aren't fit to be at the club. I don't expect to see instant success because I know it isn't what Hodgson was brought in for but I do expect us to maintain a certain standard of play, and not be beaten by the likes of Blackpool or Northampton. It would be different if we lost due to bad luck, but we were outplayed. People often say that Liverpool isn't a firing club but managers leaving by mutual consent means the same thing. The game has changed and so must we change. People talk about how Fergie took 7 years to win his first title but in today's game, managers don't have the luxury of time. We can continue to moan about it or we can embrace it. |
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Oct 6 2010, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Oct 6 2010, 12:05 PM) It could be a matter of perspective but my visions of Rafa towards the end of his tenure was man who was constantly frustrated by the lack of financial support he got from the board/owners, and who repeatedly undermined almost half the squad by indirectly claiming they weren't good enough. He didn't say it in so many words but it's how I would interpret it as a player if my manager constantly says he needs 3-5 more players. His frustration was also made clear when he opted to engage the likes of Fergie in the press, something he would not have done early in his tenure. If you ask me, the best way to deal with Fergie is to ignore him. If you compare him with when he first arrived, much has changed. He would previously never engage in mind games, preferring instead to focus on the team and winning games. He would also not complain about having an average squad, or about players getting injured e.g. during our run up to Istanbul/Athens. Pressure and frustration however got to him and felt the incessant need to defend himself each time a microphone was put in fornt of him. contrary to you.. i wish rafa could stay at least one more season to make it right. but that ship has sailed. first few season he didn't complain about players because the yanks hasn't show their fangs yet. rafa constantly need to sell players to buy a new one and it's frustrated him. also the bashing and critics he received from mass media, fergie and his massive ass kissers made rafa loose his self-control and lost the mind games. it's hard to ignore when you read bad things about you in the paper everyday. he was fighting alone.. It's like I've said many times. I am fond of Rafa but I felt that circumstances have pushed him to the brink and it was best to part ways. Sources have stated that he is now more relaxed with Inter so good on him. It's no secret that like many fans, I was sceptical of Hodgson from the start but we have to make do with what we've got. I really think he is in over his head and in a short time, has made some bizzare decision on the pitch, and blurted out confusing statements. Like you I too stand behind the club, but it doesn't mean I won't chastise players or managers I feel aren't fit to be at the club. I don't expect to see instant success because I know it isn't what Hodgson was brought in for but I do expect us to maintain a certain standard of play, and not be beaten by the likes of Blackpool or Northampton. It would be different if we lost due to bad luck, but we were outplayed. People often say that Liverpool isn't a firing club but managers leaving by mutual consent means the same thing. The game has changed and so must we change. People talk about how Fergie took 7 years to win his first title but in today's game, managers don't have the luxury of time. We can continue to moan about it or we can embrace it. the players (read gerrard, carra) got butthurt when his manager says he needs 3-5 more players? they shouldn't be.. because he was trying to improves the team. they should know better.. their oversize egos constantly needs an arm around their shoulder and wont allow them to admit that their awful performances also causing the team poor results. i love rafa.. he helped me watched the team lifted up the big ol' ear which i think will ever happened in my lifetime. he made the team enjoyable to watch. i admit he made few mistakes and losing his touch at the end of his reign but i really feel that the outcome would be different if we have an owner that could give him his 1st choice players.. not the 2nd.. 3rd an so on. This post has been edited by rushmode: Oct 6 2010, 12:56 PM |
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