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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2010, DONE DEAL: WELCOME NESV,JOHN HENRY

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post Sep 26 2010, 01:58 PM

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Im done with giving post match comments. ugh. same shit different week.
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post Sep 28 2010, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Sep 27 2010, 05:50 PM)

We need to judge RH at the end of the season, not now. We're not Madrid who sacks their managers every one (sometimes half) season or so.

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post Sep 29 2010, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 29 2010, 10:26 AM)
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post Sep 29 2010, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Sep 29 2010, 11:19 AM)
do you believe Miracles do happen?

remember the night in Istambul?

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I think you've got to stop bringing up the past and Istanbul. Time were different then compared to the predicament that we find ourselves in.

I'm not gonna stop you from over hyping and being positive since that is your choice, but seriously if you wanna put points , statements and facts across please relate them with a sense of realism. Whatever you mentioned here just comes across to me as just being hollow.
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post Sep 29 2010, 09:19 PM

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Let's take a bit of a detour for the moment. I know we have been accused many time to live in the past, but i guess there's nothing wrong in relieving in the sheer moment of brilliant football that we were able to produce.

For the benefit of our younger fans in here. heck im young myself. Im sharing the Liverpool Season Review of 1987/1988.

This team is widely acknowledged to be one of the best team's in Liverpool history. It had talent, finesse, skills and most important what is sorely lacking in our team right now. Pass & Move football. This team was the absolute best in pass n move football. When mentioned pass & move first thing comes to mind is Liverpool.

Ever wanted to know how John Barnes , Peter Beardsley , John Aldrigde ,Steve Nicol, Steve McMahon were in their absolute prime? watch it, and relive it. jaw dropping football and this is what were capable of in the 80's

Liverpool Season Review 1987/1988

Thanks to those guys at RAWK.
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post Oct 1 2010, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 1 2010, 08:25 AM)
HE will be sacked even if he dun perform after Jan 2011 rclxms.gif

so if he is sacked, who would you wan to take over fr his hot seat?

Kenny Dalglish ( the famous KOP )

SAF (this guy, nickname "hair dryer" is VERY GOOD at fcuking his players thumbup.gif )

Jose Mourinho ( the SPECIAL one)

Martin Oneil ( soft spoken )
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I know im gonna get warned but what f***ing apathy..You proclaim that you've supporting Liverpool for 30++ years, And for a fan that has been supporting a Liverpool for 30 years you'd think they'll be intellectual and rationalize our play better than any fans in here. but man your sad. really f***ing sad. to even have a thought to want that scumbag MANU to manage Liverpool.

I aint gonna bother replying your f***ing apathetic posts anymore . Its a waste of time and hopeless.


QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Oct 1 2010, 10:26 AM)
Wow, so much condemnation of the manager. I tend to disagree.

I feel that he could have done 2 things better : (1)play Maxi instead of Lucas from the start (2)play Carra at leftback instead of Kelly and Sotirios at CB.  That may have made a difference.

Nevertheless, I thought Kuyt played well and Torres should have scored from his assistance in the second half.  When a player like Lucas continuously make mistakes, it causes others to become nervous and they in turn make mistakes.  I think RH has given Lucas enough opportunities to salvage his career in LFC!

I believe, RH is trying to lift pressure off his players' shoulders because there's just been too much expectations during RB's time.  Also, every manager has his own style - we cannot afford a more swashbuckling and charismatic manager, no thanks to the yanks : what to do?

As far as the group is concerned, LFC is still in a strong position. That's all that matters for now.

Cheers guys ... chins up for Blackpool this weekend!
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To put it simply mate.RH isnt good enough. He treats as if we are Fulham. and we are not Fulham. Nevermine the results but would it be too much to ask if we play good football?

If we played good football and we drew or lost, that wouldnt be hard to take since we know we gave it a shot and can look forward to our next match, but im sure you've seen our football, is it something to look forward to everyweek? lifting the pressure? based on his media interview's all I can see is that he's doing he's best to alienate himself from the burdens of expectations by telling that club reserve players arent good enough and Rafa overstaffed num of players, and giving compliments to SAF and teams that we should have thoroughly smashed. Great man manager tactics by RH i must say by demoralizing that morale that has still left in the players by leaving them out and playing them out of position.

I shudder for what is going to happen against Blackpool. Certainly We'll make them look like Barcelona and Roy will come saying that he is happy with a point if its a draw and Blackpool gave them a good fight.



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post Oct 1 2010, 05:16 PM

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The thing is everyone is saying that the issue is with the owners. Absolutely i agree. Those yanks need to get out, but getting rid of the yanks doenst necessarily guarantee that we'll be back to our all conquering, swashbuckling type of football wont we?

and what makes you think that when the new owners come in our performances drastically improves? No one knows that for sure. I believe he's been signed to a two year deal. I don't understand what makes people think out team's performance is going to improve as soon as the new owners come in. IF there is one.

That thought is flawed.

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post Oct 1 2010, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 1 2010, 05:19 PM)
hahaha...i got even nastier labels than slur....and i am sure you have too...

but we wont want them go crying to mods to ask them to delete it...
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Talk about double standards aye? "they" can call our ex manager a Fat Spanish Waiter and what not and get away with it while any name calling by us of their current manager will derive to our posts being deleted by the mods laugh.gif

Some people just need to grow a pair laugh.gif
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post Oct 1 2010, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 1 2010, 05:25 PM)
No, a Sheikh or a Chinese tycoon or Indian billionaire wont AUTOMATICALLY bring in good football...Its NOT an overnight thing.

but...on long term basis, a good owner can bring these attributes

1.  moral of players may improve.  sense of security may comes in.  Yes, we can blame these superstars of being childish and demand that even at this stage, at 50k and above a week, they should be performing.  But the fact is they are not.

2.  new owners maybe more willing to spend to get rid of RH and go for a better manager.  One frightening thought now is what if RH continues to drag us downhill with poor football, and all these while the 2 Yanks just cant afford to get rid of him? and they prefer to see the club go down just to guard their pockets? I feel the potential of a new manager coming in to replace RH (if he doesnt improve) is better with new owners. 
3.  long term, equip the squad with better players than Poulsen, etc (which will of course be more expensive). 

To me, the key is to stay competitive and be ready to bid for good players when they are available.  I mentioned it before, we cannot total up how much a manager spent on players throughout a period of 5-10 years because it is not a complete story. The key is which manager always have cash ready to spend WHEN needed and WHEN other clubs are competing to buy the same player. 

What is important is that when the club sent out scouts, there will be a time when a real gem is unearthed.  But most probably, other clubs are hunting the same player.  That will be the time when the club has to be competitive- enough cash to splash out. 

I am not comfortable with the Madrid or ManCity style of spending huge amount on Robinho, Huntelaar, Sneidjer, Abedayor, etc......(although its very exciting).  they practically flaunt their wealth to buy any mega name that is willing to come (it can be good for business, jersey income, etc) though. 

But the key is to stay competitive.
  In this sense, i do respect SLUR has achieved with MU's board..

He knew he needed to replace his aging defence, and he splashed on Stam, then Rio, then Vidic.  All these players brought success.
He knew he needed to grab Rooney from Everton to replace Cole, York, etc.  He went for it
He saw CR, demanded for it and he immediately got the cash to buy. 

In short, i dont want new owners to spend recklessly and collect galaticos.  but i would like owners who make Liverpool competitive, by having the cash to spend on a good player when its needed.
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Im all for the new owners smile.gif

What irks me is that the thought that the new owners might be sticking wit RH for the next 2 years and judging from what we've seen ...It'll be 2 years of mediocre football.

Good football, pleasing to watch isnt alot to ask for isnt it?

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QUOTE(cheez @ Oct 1 2010, 05:58 PM)
the debates between you guys really tickles me.

for goodness sake leave digilife with his right to speak up.
in a gloomy period like this, he is like a spot of sunlight to spark some optimism.

Reality or not, it is individual's view which makes us all different.

We all support LFC and this is a FACT.
Why wana fight among each other over something that will make least significance?
Even if you win over the other, what will you get? Being labeled keyboard warrior?

Get a life! We come around this thread to share views.
like it then complements it, don't like it then criticize politely.
same goes to mine.

anyway, am hoping for the best to come.
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Yup i agree.Lets get Ferguson to manage Liverpool instead of RH.
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post Oct 1 2010, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(nando @ Oct 1 2010, 06:09 PM)
but...but...who's perch is he going to knock then?
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Oh yeah. Let's apply the RH school of thought since he evangelizes the low expectations statements.... probably we'll aim at MU's unparalled success in the FA or Carling Cup

Start small first aye?

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post Oct 1 2010, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(cheez @ Oct 1 2010, 06:21 PM)

i was hoping for the best to come.
what does it got to do with ferguson? laugh.gif
i din see him got any relations with 'best'.  laugh.gif

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that guy that you were sticking up for was wanting Ferguson to replace RH at Liverpool.

Very optimistic i must say......


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post Oct 1 2010, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(-nana- @ Oct 1 2010, 05:52 PM)
well i was born close to 1990. so didnt know how well we were back in the late 80s n watching barnes makes me wonder, if we ever had a winger close to his calibre for the past decade, anyone ?
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Yup we did, just google up Antonio Nunez or Harry Kewell smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2010, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(dfadzli @ Oct 3 2010, 09:20 PM)
RH Son still in 1st Eleven, Poulsen

LIVERPOOL: Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Poulsen, Gerrard, Cole, Meireles, Torres, Kuyt.

SUBS: Jones, Maxi, Jovanovic, Lucas, Spearing, Ngog, Kelly
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shocking.gif is RH coming out of his shell? could this potentially be a 3-5-2 lineup?


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post Oct 3 2010, 10:50 PM

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Europe? I'd be happy if we dont get relegated this season looking at how we're playing.
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post Oct 3 2010, 10:56 PM

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Where's our resident optimist? or was it the lateral thinker? Digilife?


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post Oct 3 2010, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(maximus85 @ Oct 3 2010, 10:57 PM)
Pellegrini looks a decent choice, only if he agrees to come though... he managed RM before and ppl like him gonna be expecting huge transfer fund though... so it's still not gonna happen...
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He did apply for the vacancy when Rafa left. but we took RH instead.
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QUOTE(shinzan @ Oct 3 2010, 10:59 PM)
that's the board decision...
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Ok thanks for stating the obvious shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 3 2010, 11:00 PM)
maybe boomjet can give you his view
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Why? is he a dupe of Digilife? laugh.gif

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post Oct 3 2010, 11:53 PM

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so what now?

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