Guys I'm torn between Sharp's 60inch LC60A77M LCD(RM9999) and Toshiba's 55inch 55XL700E LED (RM9200) ........ It's between the huge screen size of Sharp and the LED backlight of Toshiba (about 10-11 feet viewing distance). I tried doing a comparison at Harvey Norman but with the conditions (lighting, different source, 'bumped-up' showroom settings etc) I really can't tell the difference.

Between these two power consumption, price (a few hundred bucks difference), extra features (connectivity, picture viewing, reading media files and other things TVs are NOT suppose to do) is not a factor for me although the 60kg++ weight of the Sharp unit scares me a bit (my custom rack might collapse). Paper specs aside will there be significant difference in pic quality between these two units (if not than the obvious choise would be the 60inch)

Ok then comes in another thing.... Samsung UA55C7000 - series 7 3D LED. It cost around RM15k - that is a lot of difference and a huge hole in the pocket. BUT if 3D does hit in 1-2yrs time I dont want to be the sucker who got his TV 'right before it hits mainstream'. Like most of us, I dont plan to change TV every 1-2yrs.

If I get a 3D TV it will be at lease a few month before I 'go' 3D. I already have a PS3 - the upcoming 3D games might be nice (unlike the ones on PSN now). Problem is my receiver (which is <1yr old) does not support HDMI 1.4 meaning that I have to connect the PS3 or whatever bluray player I get direct to the TV via HDMI and optical to the receiver- Me not prepared to lose HD/Lossless audio which means I will have to get one of those bluray player with dual HDMI output (Samsung & Panasonic has it but dont think it's available locally yet).


So? Macam mana? 55inch LED vs 60inch LCD or just say F-it and risks getting F-ed (in a bad way) by the missus and future proof my investment on 3D.

Advise, views are very much welcomed.

What about special order with Panasonic Japan for 150" Plasma?

Cabut...

wah... 60 inci for RM9,999 onli? go for 60 inci... bigger is better, dun believe me can ask ur wife/gf ..

Yes that's a good idea too- 150inch you say? That would fit my 20x12 room nicely. I like that but since I play tons of games plasma may not be a good idea.

Hehehe. Seriously - my room is not even big enough for a 90inch projector (10-11feet viewing distance max)

definately go 3D.....i think samsung model can get 12k only

I'd go for bigger size personally, 3D gives me a headache.

For me i won't go for 3D tv...

Go for 60". The bigger the better.

So far, how many games and movies are release in 3D?

Buying a 3D tv now isn't going to future proof anything. It could be obsolete when standard 3D comes out. You'll find yourself having proprietary 3D tech from different companies while the new ones have standard 3D tech used by all the different companies.. But it does appear that 3D releases are booming, so choose wisely. 3D titles are more expensive than normal releases. You might not even like 3D.

big and cheap,go for plasma..but power consumption is half more compared to LCD and LED.Black level cun..panny v20

LED is a good choice since it help the contrast,less power,slim,but expensive..

LCD almost the same with led,but the black level not very cun..

after all,its hard for u to tell the diff if u hookup with ps3 and play blu-ray
movie..

Plasma power consumption is not a big issue, if you do the real calculation and average usage for a year a Plasma set will cost you about RM125 more than a LCD set.

Plus the new generation of Plasma sets are much more eco friendly.

yeah,and for me,if i want something big,cheap,good PQ,and not gonna move around,ill definately go for plasma..

Yes my thoughts exactly- in 1-2yrs down the line they might even figure out how to do 3d without glasses. At the very least make the current 3d glass tech less prone to fatigue and discomfort. Thing is I'm a avid gamer and the thought of GT5 & Killzone 3 in 3D is just something I cannot brush off

I am not considering plasma since despite what they've been claiming, I still see quite a few people suffering from burn-in with the latest models. Conditioning and good practice (e.g. running white noise a few hrs/day) may help but that is one more thing I need to worry about.

Looks like I'm down to the 60inch LCD or 55inch LED...... how?


thanks for the replies guys

then ill go for LED due to contrast and better black level..but,gonna burn a big hole in your pocket!kidding..GT fan here..haha

i have 1 question..do u think 50/100/200 hz have big diff between them or just a marketing thing ?

Looks like your budget a bit higher than mine, but my main consideration now is Toshiba 55ZV600E (around RM7300).

So I think the XL series should be even better.

I won't bother with 3D. There's not much content (yet?) and the big price difference don't appeal for me to jump unto the 3D wagon

Burn-in and retention are two different things. Burn-in doesn't happen often, but you will see a lot of image retention during the first 200-250 hours. For something to burn in, the person would have to be really careless.

If money is not a constrain, I will go for 3D.

go for 60 incher. the bigger the better

If money no constraint I think I'd go for Panasonic 65VT20

buy plasma tv bro. no regret. mata pun tak sakit tgk dlm gelap.

if I were you, I'll opt for 65" pana plasma tv...as for the case of burn in and ir issue, it shouldn't be a problem if you know how to solve it...

This post has been edited by kayly: Sep 21 2010, 10:11 PM

How much is it?

me also very pening now wat to choose...

if plasma i will go for samsung 50" series 6--6500

if LED sony 52EX700 or samsung series 6 --- 6900

very the pening la...

haha, u don't wanna know how much it is....

but according to some experts in AVS forum, this is the best tv money can buy now, right next to kuro.

Depends whether you often gonna watch in 3D? Otherwise just go for lcd or led. Lcd and Led don't make any great difference. Led, the colour, brightness level are higher. Response rate higher if im not mistaken. Plus higher clarity.

It's RM30k++, for that price if I buy it I expect it to be able to do BJs too.

Anyways how much can get the Sony 60 inch EX700 - saw it retailing at RM19k

the VT 65" is 23k, the VT 50" is 14-15k? I think that's the price.

Yah should be around there.

Sigh...... after help & opinions from you guys (thanks dudes) and other sources now my options is getting a bit more complicated.

3D is out of the picture- I guess most of you guys agree with this. But now I'm looking at the SONY KDL-60EX700 - it's 60inch Edge-LED.... yeah it retails at RM19k but after discounts and juggling on things (e.g. selling some of my current AV stuffs, not getting a new smartphone, auctioning my kidneys etc) - I can probably get away with it spending as much as I would if I was to go 55inch 3D.

Still considering.........sigh

Just remember bro, bigger is ALWAYS better!

Since you mentioned that your custom rack might not be able to hold a too heavy tv and you can't tell the different in terms of their PQ, then the weight of the tv might be the deal breaker here. 55" LED TV seems to be a suitable choice as it only weight about 32kg compared to 60" LCD TV (60+ kg), better energy saving some more.
Save some money for other stuff as getting 3D tv is too early at this stage where price is sky rocket high and 3D contents now are not many with premium price to pay for unless your pocket is bottomless then it will be a different story.

SONY KDL-52EX700 should be enough already IMHO...price also not bad RM9000 recently drop

Yah got offer for this during raya at Harvey Norman for RM8000, nice set!

There's really no need to go into debt for a tv.

Just buy what you can afford.

Bigger is better, but you don't have to get the biggest tv available. We're all no millionaires here.

yeah,as long as u happy with the tv,and doesnt bring u any prob in future,thats more than enough..watch tv to release stress,entertain our self,not to put us in debt and headache..

Wow that's really nice price...Which HN Branch sell 8K??

Ikano, but they only had 5 units, 3 was already sold not sure if they still have any left.

thanx for the info bro!!

I would like to thank everyone here for helping out with opinions and advise- goodbye everyone since I may not see u guys again after tomorrow.....

For it is done..... got the Sony 60EX700, 60inch LED. When wife finds out I will be dead. Farewell.

PS: I will be putting up the Sony BDP-E370 bluray hometheater system (came with the unit) and my old TV up for sale on LYN if none of my friends are interested to buy.

Enjoy..

Dudes/dudettes,

Just got my 60EX700 earlier today - a short review:

Pic quality- can only compare with my old 42inch HD ready Sharp in the same environment (I dont trust the displays I see at the showrooms), overall the quality is great but the blacks can be a bit blacker- maybe with some tuning it can get better.
Can't seem to find the function to manually change contrast - so far contrast is controlled by other settings, cannot manually override.

I'm glad I did not go for 55inch - 60inch at 11feet hits the spot pretty nicely, a bit smaller it would be a disappointment and if I went for a projector with 72inch throw it would be too big.

Have not tried other functionality (networks, media playback etc) - honestly I dont care for most of them.

Bluray, XBOX 360, PS3 gaming image quality is superb - this goes without saying but have not tried with Wii (which is already pretty shitty on a 42inch).
Astro SD is surprisingly good with the upscaling. Astro HD is superb.

MKV files - now (probably due to the huge screen size) I can see a lot of difference between bluray and 1080p mkvs - can see the compression artifacts on blurriness on mkvs (tried a few mkvs with various quality). I am using ACRYAN PlayONHD so there could be a slight possibility this is also due to the player. Astro HD pic quality seems to be better than the 1080p mkvs despite them being 1080i.

Did not bother to check the sound quality- everything goes thorough the amps.

An issue I'm having now is I'm getting eye fatigue after a few minutes of watching in the dark- not as bad as watching 3D but still uncomfy. Suspect this is probably due to the huge screen which is a lightsource (my backlight levels are ok- not over 'brighted'). Will go to Ikea tomorrow to get one of them ambient light thingy to put behind the TV - hopefully this helps.

I know a lot of people hate the motionflow effects (making movies look like RTM studio shows some say) but I love it- movement looks more natural for me, it's just personal preference.

Avatar and UP! bluray kicks so much ass on this TV.

If any of you have any questions or something specific u need me to test/try on the unit, just give me a post.

Went HN IPC just now, they sell RM8,999 lorrrrr, not RM8,000 haiya waste my time going there!

May I know how much you bought the TV for? I'm helping a friend of mine to sell his & I'm pretty much interested on the current market price for a brand new 60EX700. Many thanks in advance.

This is the No.1 reason I am sticking with Plasma if I am going to get a big screen. No question about that at all.

Depends on viewing distance, no? Having the biggest screen with a short viewing distance is like buying the first row seats in a cinema

LED and LCD are simply too irritating to my eyes regardless of distance (within viewable distance). I tried that so many times watching LED/LCD/Plasma at shop that have both and result always the same. Try starring at one type for say.....10 minutes and then move your eyes to another and see for yourself. Without fail, my eyes can not tahan.

i alwaiz prefer plasma for home cinema regardless how improve the lcd/led is..cos ive seen the difrence

Sorry if mentioned before but which shop selling Sharp's 60inch LC60A77M LCD for RM9999? Is this retail price or is it under promotion.

I was looking at Samsung 55" 3D LED at 15k but if can get 60" for less than 10k I would definitely go for it regardless the brand (as long as not cap ayam )

Since you can afford that price. I highly recommended you go for 3D LED TV.

end of the year should be cheaper..then rm9999.. i also targeting 60" sharp A77 . cause before end year sure all the shop wanna reach sales target..sell at cost also they will. who interested in A77 pm me ..maybe can get better deal if buy few unit ..

How about Samsung 63" Series 7 Plasma? How is it compared to Sony 60EX700?

All I needed to do was tape those LED lights from IKEA around the edge of the TV (rears) and switch them on while watching in the dark - no more eye fatigue (or much less).

bro...just simple question...The Sony 60EX made in Japan ?

I guess made in Malaysia...

if you can afford it, buy the best and most expensive!!! hehe...

Good question, I'll check it out tonite but I doubt it's made in japan. My DTR-ES5500ES amplifier (for US market, not available here) is actually made in Penang.

even my samsung bought here in Australia made in Malaysia..haha

Samy 63" PQ is over-scaled / less vibrant as compared with Sony PQ clarity but Plasma is always eyes friendly.
Samy 63" 3D is ~RM14,xxx; Sony (if not mistaken for model) ~RM16,xxx (non-3D) / RM19,xxx(3-D).
Samy 63" has a brother which is 58" 3D Plasma (HN price ~RM9,500, foc 3D Bluray Player + 2pairs 3D glasses + 3D Movie).
Not sure if this Sony model is paneless, which is good for protection against kids throwing hard stuff on them.

Will agree with Optiplex330 and few others that Plasma is still the way to go i.e. eyes friendly, much cheaper, better black level, DVD friendly (excellent PQ quality as compared to LED/LCD), etc.....