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redeye84
post Oct 9 2006, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Oct 9 2006, 10:15 PM)
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May be we should attract more new comer instead, if say Johnny, me, Redeye and Heaven starts joining I doubt the likes of Fuj, daemon, NameX will even consider participating for what chance do they have when we can beat them 1v1 even only by using scouts at Tier 1?


the tournament not just for a few of us, it is about 32players or 16 team. so if they can beat into top10, not bad for them also. plus, we have general waba, brother captain redeye and warboss Hunt to teach the new comer playing in better way. Forget about johnnycp, he's da biggest ork noob ever. if i really want to participate in the tourney, maybe i will relearn SM or Chaos or maybe eldar. Orks just too hard to play, cant really master the full power of WAAAGH!.
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post Oct 9 2006, 10:29 PM

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But the time of notice and the scale of tournement I doubt u can dig out a lot of these hidden pros tongue.gif Now how would you know it is about 16 teams and 32 players? Kong said that? tongue.gif

Lets just try this, Fuj, NameX will you guys be joining if tourney is on?


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Forget about johnnycp, he's da biggest ork noob ever
Please..... sweat.gif

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About the replay WTF Johnny you won but still complaining, at times u had like 700+req floating, u can always build a 3rd grotz FFS doh.gif

When ur nobz were getting owned u forgot the oldest trick of asking them to get on the car, 4 traks shoot squad of pinky back to warp..imba!

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post Oct 9 2006, 11:25 PM

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Well, it's depends though. If there are like 32 players around, then I might, surplus I got the time to train online again.
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post Oct 10 2006, 12:00 AM

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I second that. Just look at LYN's warcraft III forum, full of kiddies that have problem communicating in english. But I would say something is that game itself is the main reason for the community it has created.

Let's make a comparison,

DotA comes with a very direct and easy playstyle, just level up and equipped your hero well and pawn your opponents, just like most of the MMORPG out there. (Maybe you say it involved micro skill, hell, mostly every game involve micro, skip that) As long as you play RPG before, you will find it how easy to learn and master DotA. (Eventhough you dont know english)

DoW, complicated game. Not really noob friendly, eventhough you are an RTS expert as this game itself is a revolution to the RTS game. It changed from the traditional harvest, build and attack to cap point and attack all the way. Moreover, I found it quite hard to understand every bit of the environment of this game (unless you are a die hard fan of Warhammer 40k) as most of the units in the game are speaking "ancient" language which is quite hard to be understood if you are not really good in English.

In terms of business POV, definately DotA is the way to go as your target market is bigger than every game out there. What I would like to emphasize is that, there's no right nor wrong for dota existence. Just bear with it and think of better way to improve DoW community.
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Well yeah Id would not agree more Dota players in Malaysia have not only poor english language level but a poo command of language. In simple sentence they have a huge problem trying to espress them selves in words so they can only use swearing languages, thus their minds can only comprehend games like dota, games that are a little bit complicated to master and needless to say win they will just give up.

QUOTE(Waba @ Oct 9 2006, 01:20 PM)
Really? I guess they try to have the "gothic" feel of protraying the no nonsense world of grim 40K. Without realising it, I seems to live and breath 40k universe now.
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I thought the english level for DOW is quite simple.

QUOTE(Waba @ Oct 9 2006, 10:00 PM)
IMO:
venue: FTZ or Clutch?
Seriously, FTZ have better computer but thats it. Clutch might have more vibe but I dont know for sure

time: morning can ah?
If morning make sure it is on Sunday pls

game version: DC or WA? (i'd say WZ for early November)
No comment

registration fee: RM 30 (it's pricey but i got something in it for u guys!)
Gonna scare away n00bs... then again there are always ppl who "never die before"

maps: gimme 4
For 1v1 more fair maps: Battle March, Meeting of the Minds, Shrine of Excellion, Fallen city. Quest triump is good but the only lower part of the map can access center critical point make it contraversal

Solo/Team: ?
Old timer like 1v1, N00bs like team, I can do Both drool.gif

prizes: 500/300/100 enuff for a start?
You are not making money.. no comment

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Hmm Kong your offer of a new mini tourney is most generous indeed. But can we for the moment look at the bigger picture here just to brainstorm some possibilties?

All the games at Waaagh Sessions and across hamachi slowly but sure revealed something about the state of DOW community now. To the new comers those of us who are in early and keep a "healthy" level of play will seems to have "endured a thousand battles, between us millennia of experience of warfare fighting the fore front of 40k" The level difference between us old batch and new comer are simply too high.

As my friend Osiris put it this way:

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"After Waaagh session we usually went for tea, around the table we sat gathered the most powerful local Chapter Master/Warboss/Chaos Lord/General
doh.gif



May be we should attract more new comer instead, if say Johnny, me, Redeye and Heaven starts joining I doubt the likes of Fuj, daemon, NameX will even consider participating for what chance do they have when we can beat them 1v1 even only by using scouts at Tier 1?
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You guys are really hard to win I even have problem getting advantage from namex, but I would not mind training for a tournament and loose just for the fun of supporting the DOW community and having the experience of able to join a DOW which is really really rare in Malaysia.

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Oct 9 2006, 10:12 PM)
Well a tourney can reveal hidden DOW pros that doesnt come to the forum to talk.

So waba u never know.

Btw i just called Hunt and his Sat was yet again with his Imba job. Daemon, his imba job comes with balance pay so its a good thing.

Next Week i hope we have a COH/DOW session.
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I hope so I really hope to see those hidden pros and meet the other DOW players from Malaysia. I hope that we are able to play DC this comming session thought the chances of that happening is really slim.

QUOTE(TheNameX @ Oct 9 2006, 11:25 PM)
Well, it's depends though. If there are like 32 players around, then I might, surplus I got the time to train online again.
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Yeah lets train togather. happy.gif
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post Oct 10 2006, 12:51 AM

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This is a Big one

user posted image vs user posted image

IG vs SM on Battle Marsh
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Those things in the woods are assault termies with Word of the Emperor!!
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Desperate crago
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Carnage.... simply brutal

Battle Description:
A misunderstanding between the Imperial Regiment and Adeptus Astartes went into a full scale war. The Imperials took defensive position and fire away the artillery. The Space Marines realising they are losing at the bombardment game march forth and deployed their toughest assault terminators to settle the differences, the field was filled with blood and bodies...

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post Oct 10 2006, 01:38 AM

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Too much mistakes at the beginning. should have order the commander squad melee the tac marines and all guardsmen focus fire on single squad of tac marines. Lost 2 techpriests, aww it hurt so much.

I can clearly see ur Basilisk putting in the dangerous spot that vulnurable to ASM troops to throw melta bombs on them. im not sure why didnt he use ASM to take down ur Basilisk. if take down 2 is more than enough. 1 Question, how do i beat this type of IG if im the Ork huh?

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post Oct 10 2006, 02:01 AM

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strange I cant seem to DL it..
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post Oct 10 2006, 04:04 AM

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I hope so I really hope to see those hidden pros and meet the other DOW players from Malaysia. I hope that we are able to play DC this comming session thought the chances of that happening is really slim.


If they were, They woundt be hiding from us.
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post Oct 10 2006, 12:06 PM

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Frenzy Chaos vs Puny SM
map: Battle Marshes
Oponent: user posted image
check out his winning rate. Smurf?
ASM vs Raptor war. OMG i didnt realise that raptor cost 60 while ASM only 55. wot da fruit. SHould be able to own any 1200 noob with ease with this kind of crappy skills. Fuj, u got it? rolleyes.gif

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Weird ladder score he has

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post Oct 10 2006, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Oct 10 2006, 12:06 PM)
Frenzy Chaos vs Puny SM
map: Battle Marshes

ASM vs Raptor war. OMG i didnt realise that raptor cost 60 while ASM only 55. wot da fruit. SHould be able to own any 1200 noob with ease with this kind of crappy skills. Fuj, u got it? rolleyes.gif
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Yea, tier-1 more expensive than tier-2, imba cry.gif


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Dark Crusade shipping to retailers!

Posted in Dawn of War by Someguy on October 9th, 2006

Expect the game to be in stores tomorrow.

Here is a quick quote from the press release,

    AGOURA HILLS, Calif., Oct. 9 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ - THQ Inc. (Nasdaq: THQI - News) today announced that Warhammer® 40,000(tm): Dawn of War: Dark Crusade(tm), the highly-anticipated hybrid expansion to Relic Entertainment's critically acclaimed Real-Time Strategy (RTS) franchise, has shipped exclusively for Windows PC. The critically acclaimed title delves deeper into the futuristic Warhammer 40,000 universe, introducing two all-new factions, an immersive single and multiplayer experience, plus additional features that become available when played with other titles in the Dawn of War franchise. Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Dark Crusade, is now available for a suggested retail price of $29.99.

You can check out the press release here.


Woohooooo~ It's time to Rock & Roll rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(Waba @ Oct 9 2006, 10:00 PM)
IMO:
prizes: 500/300/100 enuff for a start?
You are not making money.. no comment

additional comments: ?
Hmm Kong your offer of a new mini tourney is most generous indeed. But can we for the moment look at the bigger picture here just to brainstorm some possibilties?

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Well, if we really want to promote the game then we'll need to invest some money first before we start talking about profit. But if kong is really serious about the tourni he should really make use of DC launch cos this is the perfect timing to do a tourni to increase the awareness among RTS gamers and promote DC sales. What a way to kill two birds with one stone....or should i say DOUBLE KILL !!

And for the tourni, i wont mind joining to support the DOW community like fuj said as long as it's not clashing with my schedule.

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ELdar(Lazerflip-eldar pro) vs SM(trojan)

check this out. Recently im learning my Eldar micro skill back, however this replay makes me give up to train my eldar immediately doh.gif sweat.gif

what should i do? even the micro king failed to stop the crazy marines


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1 Question, how do i beat this type of IG if im the Ork huh?
I Dont play orks... so i cant imagine from orks POV, ask Hunt may be? laugh.gif


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Yea, tier-1 more expensive than tier-2, imba
Hmm... but if this is not the case I am afraid Raptors will be unstoppable in able hands. You have to realise in Tier 1 Raptors > ASM in melee damage and can have AC once armory is up where as ASM can run for their lifes can do little dmg to buildings.


QUOTE(johnnycp @ Oct 10 2006, 01:28 PM)
ELdar(Lazerflip-eldar pro) vs SM(trojan)

check this out. Recently im learning my Eldar micro skill back, however this replay makes me give up to train my eldar immediately doh.gif  sweat.gif

what should i do? even the micro king failed to stop the crazy marines
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What are you talking about? For some one who did a stupid mistake of putting a forwarding LP in SM's turf it is a miralce he can hold that long in the face of ASM and heavy weapon Tacs. It should be an inspiration for you instead.



EDIT:
Eldar(Waba) vs IG(Heaven) in MoM
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Now this game was played before I saw the laserflip replay so I am not arguing about anything, just to show a game I played with my bro. Heaven have been playing IG lately and having hell of fun blasting opponents troops to shreds with Basiliks so I tried a game of Eldar with him in a big map.... first game I won and second game I kena tapau.

Eldar troops has the pain of FoF on off issue in big fights so later I just on them all the time if I am busy.... crappy Priest and Sentinel combo. What I have learned: build brightlance to counter sentinels harrass.

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post Oct 10 2006, 04:32 PM

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I guess the basilisks were abusing their "gun" too much by firing their "rounds" so hard at the ladies. Any lady will b pissed off by that biggrin.gif . That's why they are bringing along their light sabers to chop off the "guns" icon_question.gif This happens in real life too lol.
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QUOTE(Waba @ Oct 10 2006, 03:21 PM)
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sweat.gif Are you playing Eldar with one hand? sweat.gif
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post Oct 10 2006, 06:54 PM

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Dark Crusade Reviews coming in

Posted in Dawn of War by Someguy on October 10th, 2006

IGN gave Dark Crusade a 8.7.

Games Radar gave it a 9/10.

Thanks to Kasmapalities and Nessy for the heads up.


Cannot tahan already..... King Kong, where's our copy of DC ??

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post Oct 10 2006, 07:00 PM

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hope a COD this friday.
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post Oct 10 2006, 07:16 PM

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hope SAT session got DC smile.gif
everyone will be busy discussing the strats and tactics
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post Oct 10 2006, 08:11 PM

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Lol, easier said then done, u should try playing with heaven 1 on 1 with him as IG and you as eldar on MoM sometime. On large scale warfare FoF is as much of a liablility as it is as asset.
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Grouping, and TAB-F? no?

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