Not for me this whole week.

Maybe next next next week..

Maybe the reason i dont anti Dota so much cos i been a veteran DOTA player. I played DOTA ever since the early version came out.



Well.. Why dont we learn to play BF2 in return you learn to pick up DOTA.

It will be more convenient for Clutch meetings if players are short.

Well this few weeks alot of people posting and eager for a meeting, why not but not now as above.

This post has been edited by redeye84: Jun 17 2006, 04:01 PM

Not for me this week and next week either...

busy with my coursework.. can some body help me do my course work??

what your course work about?

Well, DoTA is an offshoot of warcraft. I'm a RTS fan. So it ain't that difficult controlling 1 guy and getting the hang to earn $, use spells, and participate in ganks.

Whereas 1st person games;
1. Vertigo
2. Controlling "myself", my vehicle, my plane...
3. Graphic card requirements...
4. tonnes of training, which i don't have...yea not even 1 FPS in my comp, how sad is that?

DoW: simply rocks, well, you guys just toot when it is NBTD Fri or Sat. We go serve Emperor, ChaosGods, Gork/Mork and the Craftworlds.

This post has been edited by Ctrl-Alt: Jun 19 2006, 10:26 AM

sorry wont be free until 3rd week of july.

Projects, assignment, and Finals have to prepare .

wahh DOW thread very quiet now.. what happend people nothing to talk about...

yea....hope u guys can revive this thread by discussing tactics or strategies or even show us your replays...hehe

Yeah i would like to bring up the overdue delayed patch 1.5

AS we know it have been delay again as there is a bug in the 1.5 patch.

Hunt thinks 1.5 will go along with DC, I think that bringing Tau and Necron without testing 1.5 in WA would create more imba.

Well i think relic have 2 choices about the 1.5 issue.

1. delay DC, by delaying DC will give a good time to test 1.5 in WA and hence providing more smaller patch to make WA perfectly balance. The Con of this is if DC is delay to long, DC will be outdated compare to the new Next Gen RTS. C&C 3 , COH and etc.

2. Rush 1.5, releasing 1.5 around july would give some time to test 1.5 for WA ,Hopefully the game be balance to be in time for DC. The con is by rushing the patch the game might create most imba than solving it.

Anyway Relic have not been really good in balancing DOW as history prove. 1.2 Orks Ownage,1.3 Defiler spamming chaos. 1.4 Cheap dreadies marine and WA 1.4 Bayonet rush and raptors pistol and 1.41 now Guardsmen + Commie rush and Raprtos power swords.

Well, since redeye and johnnycp wont be free till the 3rd week of July.....lets make the fightin for the third weekend of July and that would be 22nd of July.....if anyone wants to do the killin a little earlier, pls do give a date.



Dude.......BF2 is a full fledge game that tests your military decisions and tactics....ask johnnycp.....he knows.....whereas DOTA is a ripoff from warcraft3....if the mod showed some real RTS strats i would have played it.....but come on, why waste time playing DOTA when you have glorious killing featured in good RTS games out there like DOW, Zero Hour, Warcraft 3, AOM, ROL, AOW and etc..




whats your course work about?




I agree.....DOW kicks ass...



Dude....youre most probably gonna see 1.5 released with DC and then being balanced with more patches.....I predict that the DC races are gonna wholly own the others..... there goes the Orks once again......we're always picked on.

Besides......more ppl have been waiting for the Tau and the other races than IG, so expect a lot of ppl changing their allegience to the Tau.....i for one will still with the evil races till i see the coming of the Tyranids...

Relic have proofed to make great games with fantastic replaybility and gorgeous gameplay details, so i dont think they would be outshined by the new eye-candy games that lack in strategic depth unless its supreme commander and MoC....

Well as for replays.......i think we should start posting replays soon.....good for the thread.

well 1.5 with DC sound a very big risk..

I have a feeling that Tau can be very Imba.. Seeing a squad of fire warriors lay waste on 2 squads on shootas.. even Tacs marines cant do that...

dont even think of Melee troops, the player can mass kroots and ur Melee troops will be swarm. It be worse if you are IG or Ork where ur dead men will become food for Kroots.

Hunt sometimes i wonder.. You complain alot of Imba in WA for Orks iam suprise you still stay in the game.

Well, now you know why i said, there goes the Orks again.



Well, if they control the Kroots with the popcap, i think it shouldnt be 2 much of a problem....IG have their nades to do the damage to the kroots when they come running at them......unless the HP bar for the Kroots is exactly like the sluggas, i dont see the Kroots being much of a danger to the IG.....whereas the FireWarriors range could be something to think about...

For the Orks....unless they really re-organize the Orks econ or increase their durability......we just gonna be the guineapigs to this 2 new races......





Well, redeye its all about potential and brutality.......In the case of potential, this game shows alot of creativity that most games lack entirely.....and sometimes i dream of playing it when im still working in the office...so much for productive work....but if relic can someday fix the balance issue, this game is gonna take the throne where now starcraft sits and go down the books like TA.

Now for the other reason.....brutality, nowhere can you find the kind of brutality that is featured in Warhammer and perfectly served on a dish like DOW. I mean just take a look at the Orks in other games.....LOTR - ugly midgets with table manners, Warcraft - noble upstanding citizens.....need i say more.....Now take a look at the Orks in DOW - glorious, mind-numbing, vicious killing machines banded together in one mind, one goal for one purpose....KILLING. All in the name of Gork and Mork......WAAAAGGGGGHHHHH

Now how can you not have emotional attachment to races in DOW. I mean you must love the SM for a reason........I must say....I am also a believer in the way of Chaos.....you'll always find me playing Orks or Chaos.....only sometimes will you see me playing Eldar......on the rarest times would i be playing the SM or IG.....


Now do you think, just because i b**** about a little problem relic seems to be having with this game, is gonna make me abandon this game. Hell no.....Im always a fan of true RTS games and other games that deserve the credit for the effort put into it, to make it a great game...Atleast relic is still trying to balance the game and that i applaud them.


Well...looks like im here to stay.....what about the rest of you?.....To whom do you swear your allegiance to? Is it to brutal behemoths - Gork and Mork......... or give your soul for the amusement of the Chaos Gods..............or do you pledge your loyalty to Asuryan.......or is it steadfast in the discipline order of the Imperium and the Ordo Hereticus.......or to the cause of the Greater Good......or to the awaken life harvester C'tans........or lock your very existence to the Hive Mind.......

This post has been edited by Hunt: Jun 23 2006, 01:29 PM

Well with all the DR and ASM spam now I predict Relic will utilise a systme much like DOW pro: Limit the number of squads for certain units. Like u can only have 3 warp spiders squads (counted as heavy support infantry division) at any time of the game. Solves a lot of problem....

Raptor squads seems cant hold their ground against ASM,Orgyn n other CC specialist.....it is only useful for disrupt formations

Attually no.. Raptors own the Melee war at T1.5 for with their furious charge, Aspiring champions power pistol and swords.

Only at T2 that where Raps are obselete.

of cos once raptors go head to head with T2 upgred Melee specialist they will lose.

ic......
is kaskin squad with commisar can defeat obliterator in range....
hate those kaskin...they r so dangerous...n way too better than the average guardsmen....

so in your opinion,which is the best hero?

I doubt it if the obliterators starts walking...


For which race?

each race
and your preference....
chaos lord and chaos sorcerer are quite good....but the sorcerer is weak but he is cheaper to train and have great abilities.....chaplain also not bad...
is warboss the strongest in stats?

Well for SM if u can choose only one it will be the Chappy for his healing aura. Libarian rank second for WotE. But most of the time it is the FC bashing in the open because of desperate situations calls for a hero. Ofcourse he might shift forward for a place or two should u get Orbital strikes on the table.

For chaos general purpose will be Chaos Lord for uber CC damage. However in big fight usually the sorceror's combo of chainofT + chaos bolt can dish out huge dmg in seconds and he can solo upgrade Lps without breaking a sweat and trains fast. So my choice for chaos is sorceror.

Ork.. well Warboss usually never hits the table in one on one. Between MegaAnobs and bigmek it will be the Mek for his group teleporting combo

Eldar and Ig have only one choice. Sheer council is just like a Sergent squad. CS being priest spam.

Yeah those Kaskrin are nasty.. That why IG... even without guardsmen with commie. The IG player can turtle with bassy then tech get Kaskrin.. They can rape a squad really quick. I think if Kaskrin have enough distance it can own termies also.

best hero...

Right now would be Far Seer.. If u can micro the hell out of her, Almost all her melee knocks back units, Physic bomb can rape a whole army, Guide love 300% extra Dps on reapers and Eldric storm Send everything in the area to oblivion..

Thx relic for offering a hero that can change tide of war quick..
p.s iam SM player and i really hate this hero.
For me race i like Chappy, If i can choose between FC and Cap in T1 i go for Cap. Nothing beats Demoralize shouts and heal.

8 x healing FTW
Chappy also has a nick name call Ivan, named after Rocky's opponent for his famous quote "I will break you!"

This post has been edited by Waba: Jun 24 2006, 04:16 PM