There are rumors on Team Liquid that Proleague might be starting on October 16th 2010. Fingers cross on this one.

By the way, here is something to all of you SC II'ers: Rumor has it that Boxer is playing SC II casually and goes by the name "ManofOneway" with a winning rate of 65%. That's a pretty ridiculous nick-name but you gotta love boxer if it is indeed true!

Blizzard Responds to the Non-Disclosure Agreement

While KeSPA has claimed that a NDA agreement does not exist, arguing that "KeSPA has never agreed to a NDA with Blizzard, and only kept the contents silent due to respect", and added "Blizzard criticizes KeSPA for breaking the NDA, but if there was an NDA, please reveal it to the public".

Upon investigation, it was confirmed that KeSPA and Blizzard did sign a NDA agreement, signed by the previous Chairman of KeSPA. It is the situation where Blizzard owns the actual NDA document."

A Blizzard Korea official stated that "We have NDA agreements even when we have press conferences. It makes no sense that we didn't have an NDA on such an important negotiation. We have NDA documents signed by the previous KeSPA chairman "

Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?i...47&category=102

the whole kespa is screwed part as i said is the IP rights issue...
i dun see how kespa is non-profit when they are selling broadcasting rights using blizz's IP to "get $$$ to reinvest into the sport"

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Added on September 28, 2010, 7:35 pmQnA made by kespa is lol...
read the NDA which i've posted from the same link provided...
this shows u how untrustable kespa is alone...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Sep 28 2010, 07:35 PM

I for my honest believe that the Q&A was definitely it's truth despite of there chances of it being a money leeching organization thats the only source I currently was able to dig up and there's no 100% guarantee that any NGO Or NPO will be as it says that sticks to its ideal or what its PR speech maybe . I possibly have done all my can to say that Kespa is not as it what it seems as you all painted it to be a body that is trying to limit SC2 from growing and trying to steal the ip from blizzard . Guess these would be the last time of me replying to this thread as people believe that in order for sc2 to succeed bw mush be abolished from the scene of the earth.

during beta, his frens were confirmed to be playing the game and they did mention that boxer seemed interested in it but no news about it still...
i highly doubt so atm...

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Added on September 28, 2010, 7:39 pmtell us how is kespa not trying to steal blizz's IP when they are selling broadcasting rights of blizz's game when they are not suppose to according to the NDA?
regardless of the purpose, their mean is still and as i said IP issue is a big issue for IT people...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Sep 28 2010, 07:39 PM

LETS JUST SAY ITS 100% TRUTH. but look at what evo linked above, NDA. kespa violated it. would you trust someone that violates contractual agreements?

also, on one hand you are OK with kespa having chances of being a money leeching organization so long they are being truthful (but they are not, mind you, with just the basis on top alone)
and on the other, blizzard is a money leeching company and it is NOT ok regardless if they are being truthful or not?

and here you are *SAYING* all goods about kespa and giving up on providing factual and solid sources while trying to convince people that kespa is all good and dandy while blizzard is the devil. do you realize what you are doing right there?

if you dont, let me tell you: HYPOCRISY. and on that account, THINK about kespa's Q&A panel, and think about this for a brief moment:
what if, blizzard never existed? kespa can be GODS for all i care, but the fact is blizzard MADE sc1. they OWN SC1. it is a SOFTWARE, and it is protected by INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. whatever kespa did to made sc1 GOD MODE and ESPORT is moot point if there was NO SC1 to begin with.

and just so you sc1 biased people like you know: no one (AT THE VERY LEAST ME) thinks that sc1/SC1BW/KESPA should be abolished/removed/destroyed from the face of the earth for SC2 to flourish/succeed. they can be there and do whatever they want for all I i care as my focus is sc2, NOT sc1/SC1BW

It is merely hypothetical I am suggesting they are corrupt but the possibility of them being not is quite high mind you no other pro gamers in the world earn as much as those who participated in sc bw tournament . Have there been any pro gamer in fps genre or any game genre earn as much as slayer boxer during his prime 1million won ? Being a pro gamer in Korea is a big issue and it's recognize as an occupation . Well you can stick to your sc2 and all your believes but what I am trying to say is that its not fair for Blizzard to come in and grab all the credentials just to ensure that's its bankrupt half baked game to be considered as an esport . When the original SC 1 came out it had already the option to choose 3 race to be played be it in the campaign or multiplayer and it wasn't completed and had a lot of flaws but with the expansion pack BW it made sc a much MORE balance game . I am not biased in any way what's disturbing me is that in order for succeed BW Must die for SC2 to be noticeable hence killing my proleague players of earning their bowl of soup of the day . Kespa has done a freaking good job in my book for it to bring e sports to this level of international awe to everyone to look back wards and say yeah at least e sport had its respect or closely made its popularity to a real SPORT .

well these players could actually go into sc2...
we seen sc1 pros doing well (even sub-sc1 pros)...
ITR just made it to the semis just now of the GSL...

no doubt kespa did a good job but they started to think themselves as high and mighty...
in the end of the day, there needs to be a balance of power...
sc2 is doing very very well internationally...
wut is e-sport when its confined to korea only?

bringing in pointers of how much sc1 pro gamers earn especially comparing them against FPS pro gamers is definitely irrelevant as sc2 is still new and there is no telling how much they can potentially earn. However, just from the prize pot GSL (mind you, the LARGEST prize pot so far in e-sport history EVER) is a good sign that sc2 is on the right track for any players to earn the most out of ANY e-sports game(which dun dun dun, include sc1).

are you trying to argue fairness against LAW (read: IP) right here? lets be really realistic here: life aint f***ing fair. what blizzard do may be mean and bullshit, but sc1 is THEIR GAME, and they CAN do whatever they pretty much pleases with it. and to be REALLY honest, lets take out SC franchise for a moment: if blizzard is REALLY the mean ******* company they are claimed to be, Warcraft franchise, and diablo franchise, and ultimately the damn company, and Blizzcon, would not be what it is this very fine day.

and just so your apparently unbiased self know: SC BW DONT have to die for SC2 to succeed, and YOU most certainly do NOT own those proleague players. their bowl of soup of the day is THEIR bowl of soup, NOT yours.

the IP negotiations has restarted and the pro-league mgiht go on
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=156559

"Blizzard owns Starcraft 1 and Starcraft 2"

I would rather see starcraft:brood war die to see migration swamp of people over, that the scene in sc2 would be more glorified and interesting

oh snaps

http://kr.battle.net/sc2/ko/profile/1531836/1/ManofOneway/

boxer's sc2 ID...
confirmed by TL

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=157873

JD would be switching to sc2 soon

update thread then