just as evo pointed above, sc1 and sc2 is a different game. what failed them on sc1 maybe what works for them in sc2. at the end of the day they are earning money. whats the problem then?

and what, sc2 is fun? in your earlier "reasons" on sc2 should be casuals first then esports, and most importantly being a fun game, isnt that whats being achieved for sc2? according to you, it did for you, no?

and why compare crowds on the studio when you know, its not even on television? GSL is now available world wide (for free too may i add, just on SD streams lawl) as opposed to previous "not so easy to acquire" korean pro leagues games. sure, sc2 may not be as winrar as sc1 was in *korea*, *YET*, but considering its scale on the global stage, AND the fact that it is and WILL eventually get pass sc1, who are you kidding lol. will YOU be playing sc1 for your entire life time? stick to 2D sprites for all eternity? the majority is answering no. you're playing sc2, i am playing sc2, i think we share that same answer to that.

GSL was so popular that the official stream limit for it exceeded within the first few mintues...
not to mention thousands of viewers off various restream...

Yeah and the fact that GSL is trying to kill the proleague as they are afraid of competition? Did you know that GomTV has been trying to forcefully shut down the proleagues recently? I'm just disgusted by the fact that so many SC2 players are blinded by the fact that Gretech does not care about SC1 at all. So popular that the official stream limit exceeded its limit? Of course it exceeded its limit, its free.

This post has been edited by MYNAMEISJASON: Sep 17 2010, 06:46 PM

so wut if it is free?
it still measures the viewership...

i dun remember the figures for the paid USD20 services but it was pretty damn high (almost enough to cover the prize pool)...

tell me this, why WOULD U NOT WANNA KILL UR COMPETITION?
welcome to the real world...

- why blame gom tv when blizzard already ruled out that no sc1 leagues after august unless its authorized by them?

- because gretech knows where to utilize its assets? eg: spending on a game that is current and not a game that is 12 years ago

- his point was that many people are watching it, and if its exceeded limit, theres always re-streams.

Of course, it means nothing to you, you never played brood war neither did you ever watched BW pro-gaming, which I did from the start. If Brood War was never popular and well organised by Kespa, do you think there would be GSL today?

as i said, this is the real world...
there's no free food and i dun mind if GSL kill off kespa if GSL is doing a good job...
after all i am the end user only...
not to mention kespa's retarded claim on blizzard's IP...

and you KNOW i never played brood war nor have i never watched BW pro-gaming? wwwwwwwwwwwwwww
ah, the good old days of LAN (wwwww) and UDP packet bnet.

it doesnt matter if kespa or god friggin made sc1 what it is today, it is CLEAR that Starcraft belongs to blizzard and they are free to do w/e the f*** they want with it and not what kespa claimed that sc is a damn football and it should be free. no blizzard NO STARCRAFT. end of story.

point was CLEAR that its time to move on. be it from blizzard, or from the majority of CASUALS and FANS. or myself, or the people posting in this sub forum or even YOU, who plays SC2

Blah Blah move on? What about all those progamers that trained like mad just to master SC1? You expect them to just move to SC2?

I'm also pretty surprised that they just launched the tourney just for the sake of money without even patching the game 1st and developing a better map pool, it just seems unprofessional to me.

This post has been edited by MYNAMEISJASON: Sep 17 2010, 07:07 PM

why not?

its like in real life, a real job. a new software is released, employees are expected to adapt, or quit their job.
apply this to sc1 and sc2. you either move on and adapt, or stay behind get taken over.

you think RL would be so kind to wait for EVERYONE? oh hell no lol. then again i work in IT field, where its a battle field constantly as the market is too damn saturated lol. just like an engineer thats damn expert in windows XP. windows 7 is the current OS, and the company is moving forward for it. you think the company would not move on because their of their win xp pro engineer? no. the company would just reassign or fire that engineer, and hire someone thats pro at win7. thats a harsh reality of life.

why not?
IEM, MLG all of these are highly successful...
wut can u expect from a few month old game '

tell me was sc1 in their early few months this successful? lots of map pool, heavily patched etc???

apparently nada and julyzerg moved on...

The difference is the last patch on balance that was ever needed for SC1 was already applied before SC1 progaming started, just look at the balance and players qualifying GSL now.

^ this
the good ones are able to adapt...

At Ro32
There are only 6 zergs, 15 terrans and 11 tosses made it through

At the current state of the GSL, only a maximum number of 3 zergs will reach the ro16 coupled with the crappy maps. I'll say this GSL should have started after a few patches and a more balanced map pool.



This post has been edited by MYNAMEISJASON: Sep 17 2010, 07:19 PM

you wanna look back at SC1 vanilla way back when it was 2 months old? esport for sc1 doesnt even exist back then during that time ROFL. THATS your comparison

wut i mean is that the good sc1 players would be able to adapt into sc2...
i do agree about the terran imbalances when top the64 have mostly toss...

but again, MLG and IEM is successful...
in IEM zerg is 2nd and 3rd...

It's because its not played at a higher level, once better players play it, you can see the difference when imbalances come in. I'm not saying the zerg players are awful, its just that I believe they should have launched this competition a bit later. You do have to realized that they are giving lots of money for a competition which was one sided in the first place.


Don't make silly comments, I don't respond to retards that post that way.

well did u watch cool aka fruitester's game yesterday?
he beat the terran so convincingly and made it to ro16...
cool even said that idra is at the same level as him but 2 different playstyle...
so IEM is still high lvl in my books...

btw now check is doing very very well vs his terran opponent (justfake) who beat the escJung...
nvm that check jsut won LOL...
check 1-0 justfake now and ZvT is supposed to be freaking imbalanced lol

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Sep 17 2010, 07:32 PM

if zerg suck, DONT play zerg. play another race and ADAPT.

and hell, YOU'RE THE ONE thats been comparing BOTH GAMES till NO END when it comes to esport. and i make ONE comparison on that post and im suddenly a retard now? good going right thar

take a pick: compare or not to compare sc1 and sc2. make up your damn mind.

ps: you just responded to me anyways.

But you do have to note that both OGszenio and Idra did not make it leaves only 3 zergs left. Somehow, I knew Idra would never make it, he just has nothing a good player would show.

This post has been edited by MYNAMEISJASON: Sep 17 2010, 07:34 PM