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post Oct 4 2010, 12:29 AM

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post Oct 4 2010, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(8431 @ Oct 4 2010, 12:36 AM)
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post Oct 5 2010, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Batmaninkl @ Oct 5 2010, 05:04 PM)
sorry dear...malaysian weather is around 30 degree....so we will face higher chance of getting overheated....worst the test carried out by some review, after overheated....it will off for 5min....and if retake video ...it will last only 3min before overheated again...

for canon...i read one review..not sure which one..did mentioned it.....have to find that article again..haha
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Bro all DSLR cannot withstand long video recording under outdoor ... (expect the hybrid EVIL cameras like NEX/Panasonic G-Series)

I'm having experience using Canon 550D for video shooting during outdoor (when direct the sunlight) and it only last for 15 minutes, while 5D Mark 2 can last around 20 minutes as well during hot weather

For Sony A33, actually they were the same (around 20 minutes on outdoors when SSS off, 6 minutes on outdoors when SSS under direct sunlight) and this is one of the DSLR/DSLT weaknesses
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post Oct 5 2010, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(hiansitt @ Oct 5 2010, 06:48 PM)
@Batmaninkl
sorry if i offend you, but if you think videography is far more important, then i think you might be better off with the handycam or any PnS (yes, i quite impress with PnS quality except the depth of field caused by sensor size)

2nd, if comparing a580/60D/A55, personally i will go for A55 (only reason, FAST AF) don't you want your video come out with OOF? and MF is tiring..

lastly.. smile.gif rather than asking recommendation for which still yet to reach camera, why don't wait it release and try it out.. rather "talking army on paper" -- which is not practical & just empty talk..

@mike
NEX use in-lens stabilisation, so i assume it don't have sensor overheat issue..
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For videography I have to agree Video DSLR is on some degree nowadays to overtake camcorder in terms of filming experience.

A33/A55 has targeting the user who are not serious with filming production which prefer to use MF and Manual Control all the time and PDAF is very useful in some aspect and very easy to use compare to MF
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post Oct 5 2010, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(electron @ Oct 5 2010, 08:29 PM)
correction, there were report where ppl actually managed to overheat their NEX, mainly NEX5
but then, has anyone tested the "overheat-ability" of the newer models from canon (60D) or nikon (D7000)?
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NEX-5 has overheat issue as well but only in very hot temperature situation, same goes to Panasonic G-2/G-10/GH-1 and GF-1
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post Oct 5 2010, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 09:45 PM)
owh really? coz ive never tried the PEN series...
care to elaborate? (i hope this is not going out of topic or anyting)
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If compare EPL-1 with NEX I can say, NEX wins in many aspect like screen resolution (poor 200k versus 912k screen resolution), megapixels (12 MP vs 14 MP), ISO Performance, control dial (EPL does have any wheel dial) and more ticker size and price

The only pros over NEX is the hotshoe mount, Built-In IS and more flexible AF lens of choice
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post Oct 5 2010, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Oct 5 2010, 10:22 PM)
so the EPL1 can AF with other lenses with adapter?
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Only available for Olympus Four Third lens
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post Oct 6 2010, 06:32 PM

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post Oct 6 2010, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(fatnir @ Oct 6 2010, 07:09 PM)
eh.. i want to ask...
which 1 better a33 or a550?
i want to buy a33 but a lot of issue to the "slt" things..
they believe slt less professional than slr..

and a lot of people say that the slt is similar to sony NEX...
i don't know what's the different
can anyone tell me? biggrin.gif

please i need your suggestion biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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SLT as you know is Translucent Mirror design camera

Unlike typical DSLR, the translucent mirror is to give more clear vision on the EVF (Compare to EVIL EVF) and also Phase Detection under live view with sharpest resolution (Compare the all the Sony Alpha DSLR rivals who has Live View in Phase Detection but poor resolution) because theres a certain amount of light being reflect through the AF sensor and the EVF viewfinder and it amplify the brightness.

The reason for translucent (A.K.A Transparent mirror) is to jump the process of mirror slapping and enable the in-camera shutter curtain to perform in maximum speed without concern the mirror will block it the view or not during fast shutter burst

For DSLR when you use it, the lights pass through the mirror and hits towards the AF sensor, when you snap the picture the sensor stop reading and the mirror slap and let all the lights go towards the camera sensor

EVIL is totally non-mirror and because of that EVIL will not able to reflect the light like what DSLR/DSLT do towards the Phase Detection sensor ( so it means EVIL will never have phase detection)

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post Oct 6 2010, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 6 2010, 07:39 PM)
happy birthday again bro~

i would prefer a full body shot of the couple in view for number 2 biggrin.gif
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Haha yeah but that time the space I'm standing is quite limited and I only have 50mm in my camera in a far distance xD

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post Oct 6 2010, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 6 2010, 07:50 PM)
try cropping the guy out..see willnicer or not..  biggrin.gif
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Cropped version xD

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post Oct 6 2010, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 6 2010, 08:27 PM)
better, but crop more top off.
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haha heres my edited version ... cropped added Gaussian blur heh xD

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post Oct 6 2010, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Oct 6 2010, 08:58 PM)
much better. rclxms.gif ..now if only u could redraw the brides bottom body....................... hmm.gif
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Redraw? ... Go 3D modeling it heh X.X ... for me it will take a century with fail proposition...
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post Oct 6 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(fatnir @ Oct 6 2010, 10:09 PM)
wow thx for the information biggrin.gif
yeah, i think youre right..
now, im going to wait the sony a55 come out  rclxm9.gif 
cannot waitittt...
so, in live view result, slt is clearer than slr?
wow.. thats nice..
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The Sony A33 Live View result on DSLT is actually reacts the same resolution(very high resolution) as those DSLR rivals with Live View like Canon and Nikon and also those EVIL camera (Olympus PEN, Panasonic G-Series camera and NEX) because the lights is directly access through the sensors (for DSLR they flip the mirror up for live view)

While in previous Sony system Live View, they use secondary sensor (Phase Detection AF sensor) as the Live View on the top of the viewfinder so that we can see through the Live View under the mirror without flipping the mirror unlike those traditional DSLR do and can make Phase Detection AF together with very fast burst speed on the Live View where else traditional DSLR must rely on slow contrast detection and cannot do burst shot like what the Sony Alpha DSLR can do

Downside for the Sony Phase Detection AF in Live View system is you cannot get 100% accuracy in focusing (because they not allow you to magnify the pictures) and the Live View screen resolution was very poor because they transfer the visual through the LCD screen from the small AF sensor not directly from the main sensor

On A550/A560/A580, they use 2 types of Live View, one is the Sony quick AF Live View (Using Phase Detection) and another one the Manual Focus LV which is the traditional Live View style which display with maximum resolution and able to magnify the pictures for checking the sharpness BUT no contrast detection

On A33/A55 which is the new DSLT had break through the original phase detection system by using the translucent/transparent mirror so that the light can split on both the Phase Detection and the camera sensor at the SAME time so it can do phase detection with crisp resolution live view and EVF, because it was directly access the light through the sensor, the camera it self can do like what the rivals Live View do BUT with autofocus in very fast burst rate and focusing speed and also high resolution magnification


(correct me if I'm wrong)

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post Oct 7 2010, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 7 2010, 12:00 AM)
*wingster, i help u do some minor correction to avoid misunderstanding smile.gif, btw QLV is a capturing sensor, not the AF sensor or phasedetect sensor. the phasedetect sensor sit below the mirror box there. always been there. all other SLR design are base on this ideal by minolta.
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Haha thanks for correction , I'm actually dunno how to explain it well and something that still figure it out xD

But just 1 question that the Quick LV visual (the sensor) doesn't it with together with the Phase Detection sensor as well (on the top)?

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post Oct 7 2010, 06:51 PM

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@Albnok & ieR : "1200-zone evaluative segment"

So far I know thats from the spot metering doesn't it? I can't tell the difference between conventional OVF and Sony LV in terms of sensor accuracy :/

40-segment Multi Segment, Center-weighted, Spot; (1200 zone evaluative metering in Live View)

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post Oct 7 2010, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(iamKiet @ Oct 7 2010, 09:49 PM)
Thanks William for the suggestion. Waiting CJ in cafe to COD my new Toki  yawn.gif
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>.< ... ahh I'm actually willing to get from him but still struggle whether I need an UWA for sony system or not xD ...


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post Oct 7 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(cjlai @ Oct 7 2010, 11:12 PM)
remember to take your adapter from me when you return my filters.....

@kiet
sorry for keep you waiting.....  nice dealing with you.....  I'm in the rush to go home & can't really chat much with you....  enjoy your atx 116 smile.gif
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Oh no! xD ... congrats kiet for your new Tokky


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post Oct 8 2010, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(destfull @ Oct 7 2010, 11:52 PM)
Is Sony a560 or a580 is in Malaysia already?
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Not available yet :/ ...
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post Oct 8 2010, 07:42 PM

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Today I test on A55 and Canon 60D, I was again impress by A55/A33 with its superior EVF detail where else the Canon has slightly disappoint me in terms of handling, the mode dial need to keep press the center button and then only can change mode and the movie record switch is bloody far away from PASM mode + they don't allow direct access record on LV like the 7D 5D, Sony and Nikon models = =



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