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Mamat_Lisham
post May 25 2011, 06:39 PM

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thanks kasturipurba, I'm Lisham from Langkawi. What kind of lungfish eh? the normal (P. anectens ) one i got d...
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post May 25 2011, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Mamat_Lisham @ May 25 2011, 06:39 PM)
thanks kasturipurba, I'm Lisham from Langkawi. What kind of lungfish eh? the normal (P. anectens ) one i got d...
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dont know what sp, i think p. aethiopicus. how much do u get for ur lungfish anectens?
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post May 25 2011, 06:58 PM

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wowieee.... p.anectens i got from KW aquatics in penang for rm120. wink.gif about 11" waktu tu...


Added on May 25, 2011, 7:06 pmkedai mana tu u?

Lungfish camni ke?

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post May 25 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 05:19 PM)
That's a 300 gallon pond? Is that a typo bro? How big are the Arapaimas?
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Oh ya,forgot about the typo,supposed to be 200 gallonsXP
the gigas is around 75cm now
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post May 25 2011, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mamat_Lisham @ May 25 2011, 06:58 PM)
wowieee.... p.anectens i got from KW aquatics in penang for rm120. wink.gif about 11" waktu tu...


Added on May 25, 2011, 7:06 pmkedai mana tu u?

Lungfish camni ke?

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i think so lh..marbeled lungfish kn. cos td peg tgk kt kdai tu actually not fish shop, it's exotic shop, has showroom there. selling snake, scorpion, tarantula,roaches and bugs. so, i ask the assistant he want give 180 for the lungfish.. hrge sbnar rm250.only one left. got discount. i think that one i saw still juvenil, about 10-12inch, smething like that. i think kt ikano pet safari and aquatics international also have lungfish for sell. angkat malaysian forest scorpio n mexican white tarantula there.. haha.


Added on May 25, 2011, 8:17 pm
QUOTE(LeeChiaHow @ May 25 2011, 07:51 PM)
Oh ya,forgot about the typo,supposed to be 200 gallonsXP
the gigas is around 75cm now
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bro lee n bro pimpin, from ur opinion la, how much the cost if i wanna make an aquarium, it's not an aquarium actually like aqua showroom like at xian leng, 5ft x 5ft have a glass in front, and another part will concrete. hmm.gif including the filtration system.

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post May 25 2011, 09:54 PM

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Added on May 25, 2011, 8:17 pm
bro lee n bro pimpin, from ur opinion la, how much the cost if i wanna make an aquarium, it's not an aquarium actually like aqua showroom like at xian leng, 5ft x 5ft  have a glass in front, and another part will concrete.  hmm.gif including the filtration system.
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Not sure leh,need to ask my dad,cause all my tanks he asked his friend to construct punya tongue.gif


Added on May 25, 2011, 10:12 pmSome of my other monsters,some are not ancients though tongue.gif

Dorado & Pbass
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Temensis
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Tigrinus
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Vittatus
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1st 5footer
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2nd 5footer
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6ft fgt
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kasturipurba
post May 25 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(LeeChiaHow @ May 25 2011, 09:54 PM)
Not sure leh,need to ask my dad,cause all my tanks he asked his friend to construct punya tongue.gif


Added on May 25, 2011, 10:12 pmSome of my other monsters,some are not ancients though tongue.gif


6ft fgt
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well, help me ask ur dad.. can meh? brows.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 10:24 PM)
well, help me ask ur dad.. can meh?  brows.gif
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No problem,he was the one that got me into fishes anyway smile.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Mamat_Lisham @ May 25 2011, 06:39 PM)
thanks kasturipurba, I'm Lisham from Langkawi. What kind of lungfish eh? the normal (P. anectens ) one i got d...
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Hey bro, I'm Razlan added you on Facebook earlier.

QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 08:10 PM)
bro lee n bro pimpin, from ur opinion la, how much the cost if i wanna make an aquarium, it's not an aquarium actually like aqua showroom like at xian leng, 5ft x 5ft  have a glass in front, and another part will concrete.  hmm.gif including the filtration system.
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Err.. you're asking the wrong person haha. I'm not a contractor bro and my aquarium also normal standard sizing so no custom work.

But if you are going to have a 5'x5' viewing pane and then have the walls made of concrete that still doesn't indicate the size of the actual tank itself. The 5'x5' is just the window right? Doesn't mean it'll take up the entire front of the tank. Basically what is the length, depth and height of the tank? And then the front panel consists of a 5'x5' viewing glass which is massive. In order to support the water pressure it would be expensive. You're better off making a longer tank rather than a taller one because the water pressure and weight against the glass increases significantly with height.

Then for the base of the tank, you'd probably need to make it out of rebar and cement. Or at very least thick steel with multiple support beams. The concrete structure (if you do go with concrete) would need the drain holes all built in as well plus allowances for plumbing of the PVC. Then where would you put it? The weight of the actual thing means either ground floor or if on upper floors better be on a load bearing part of your house structure.

The filtration system is also going to cost a bomb. But actually, if you DIY everything you could get away with a rather reasonably priced setup. Try MFK, there are heaps of DIY tanks there much bigger than what you want and they share their plans/drawings.
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post May 25 2011, 10:36 PM

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Bros,Sg gonna ban all those toothy fish like gars and atf,will it happen in Malaysia too?
If yes,what will they do to those already owning the fish? blink.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 10:27 PM)
Hey bro, I'm Razlan added you on Facebook earlier.
Err.. you're asking the wrong person haha. I'm not a contractor bro and my aquarium also normal standard sizing so no custom work.

But if you are going to have a 5'x5' viewing pane and then have the walls made of concrete that still doesn't indicate the size of the actual tank itself. The 5'x5' is just the window right? Doesn't mean it'll take up the entire front of the tank. Basically what is the length, depth and height of the tank? And then the front panel consists of a 5'x5' viewing glass which is massive. In order to support the water pressure it would be expensive. You're better off making a longer tank rather than a taller one because the water pressure and weight against the glass increases significantly with height.

Then for the base of the tank, you'd probably need to make it out of rebar and cement. Or at very least thick steel with multiple support beams. The concrete structure (if you do go with concrete) would need the drain holes all built in as well plus allowances for plumbing of the PVC. Then where would you put it? The weight of the actual thing means either ground floor or if on upper floors better be on a load bearing part of your house structure.

The filtration system is also going to cost a bomb. But actually, if you DIY everything you could get away with a rather reasonably priced setup. Try MFK, there are heaps of DIY tanks there much bigger than what you want and they share their plans/drawings.
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lol, i thought u've a big pond, maybe the same idea about the cost will come through it.. hehe. sorry ya.
well, thank u so much for the explanation and ur idea bro. thumbup.gif rather to have a 5ft tank if that so or maybe just a fiberglass tank that 've plain glass in front of it.
my idea for the filtration is using the filtration system for pond,, sigh~ need a lot of effort to make it true. sweat.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(LeeChiaHow @ May 25 2011, 10:36 PM)
Bros,Sg gonna ban all those toothy fish like gars and atf,will it happen in Malaysia too?
If yes,what will they do to those already owning the fish?  blink.gif
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fuhyoooo bro.... *green with enviness d... tongue.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(LeeChiaHow @ May 25 2011, 10:36 PM)
Bros,Sg gonna ban all those toothy fish like gars and atf,will it happen in Malaysia too?
If yes,what will they do to those already owning the fish?  blink.gif
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for what reason they gonna ban those monster? malaysia will not do that except for any though reason, if yes they only make it under act, n people must have licence. IMHO
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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 10:42 PM)
lol, i thought u've a big pond, maybe the same idea about the cost will come through it.. hehe. sorry ya.
well, thank u so much for the explanation and ur idea bro.  thumbup.gif  rather to have a 5ft tank if that so or maybe just a fiberglass tank that 've plain glass in front of it.
my idea for the filtration is using the filtration system for pond,, sigh~ need a lot of effort to make it true.  sweat.gif
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Yeah, I do have about 10 ponds or so. The ones that I have measurements for are the smaller ones: 3000gal, 6000gal, 40000gal and then the rest are all basketball court sizes and larger. But not all in one place of course, but each house has at least one pond.
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post May 25 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 11:01 PM)
Yeah, I do have about 10 ponds or so. The ones that I have measurements for are the smaller ones: 3000gal, 6000gal, 40000gal and then the rest are all basketball court sizes and larger. But not all in one place of course, but each house has at least one pond.
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Your ponds are concrete ponds or like those arowana breeding farm ponds?

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 10:57 PM)
for what reason they gonna ban those monster? malaysia will not do that except for any though reason, if yes they only make it under act, n people must have licence. IMHO
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I believe its already happened? Ask the fish suppliers to confirm if Gars can be brought in legally anymore. Because people release them into local rivers and lakes - that's why any non-native fish is often banned or viewed as a threat.


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QUOTE(LeeChiaHow @ May 25 2011, 11:04 PM)
Your ponds are concrete ponds or like those arowana breeding farm ponds?
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Some are concrete, while some aren't. The biggest concrete pond is the 40,000gal pond. The rest are already mature ecosystems over 10 years old in some cases.


Added on May 25, 2011, 11:07 pm
QUOTE(LeeChiaHow @ May 25 2011, 11:04 PM)
Your ponds are concrete ponds or like those arowana breeding farm ponds?
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Some are concrete, while some aren't. The biggest concrete pond is the 40,000gal pond. The rest are already mature ecosystems over 10 years old in some cases.

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post May 25 2011, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
I believe its already happened? Ask the fish suppliers to confirm if Gars can be brought in legally anymore. Because people release them into local rivers and lakes - that's why any non-native fish is often banned or viewed as a threat.


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Some are concrete, while some aren't. The biggest concrete pond is the 40,000gal pond. The rest are already mature ecosystems over 10 years old in some cases.


Added on May 25, 2011, 11:07 pm

Some are concrete, while some aren't. The biggest concrete pond is the 40,000gal pond. The rest are already mature ecosystems over 10 years old in some cases.
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Next time my pair of Gigas can tumpang anot? haha tongue.gif
cause my parents may want to put koi in the concrete pond :/
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post May 25 2011, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
I believe its already happened? Ask the fish suppliers to confirm if Gars can be brought in legally anymore. Because people release them into local rivers and lakes - that's why any non-native fish is often banned or viewed as a threat.


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Some are concrete, while some aren't. The biggest concrete pond is the 40,000gal pond. The rest are already mature ecosystems over 10 years old in some cases.
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people dont do any research before they get something to keep as pet, like gator gars, they will get huge, and by the time the 3ft tank cant fix them anymore, then they release them to the lake.. that's why all this happen.. nod.gif
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post May 25 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
I believe its already happened? Ask the fish suppliers to confirm if Gars can be brought in legally anymore. Because people release them into local rivers and lakes - that's why any non-native fish is often banned or viewed as a threat.
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people dont do any research before they get something to keep as pet, like gator gars, they will get huge, and by the time the 3ft tank cant fix them anymore, then they release them to the lake.. that's why all this happen..   nod.gif
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If its already happening,my hopes for cuban and trops are gone cry.gif
What if they don't ban the fish but issue permits to those that can house them properly? o.o

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 11:38 PM)
people dont do any research before they get something to keep as pet, like gator gars, they will get huge, and by the time the 3ft tank cant fix them anymore, then they release them to the lake.. that's why all this happen..  nod.gif
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Sometimes the LFS also don't educate the customers which is why in the US, people buy Giant Gouramis, Pacus, etc not knowing how big they will grow. But customers must also make sure they have all the information as well. Would you adopt a kid without knowing anything about him/her at all?

The practice of releasing into the local waters is the main reason why fishes like these are banned. It's the fault of those who were in over their heads and did not have any other option short of killing the fish.

QUOTE(LeeChiaHow @ May 25 2011, 11:45 PM)
If its already happening,my hopes for cuban and trops are gone  cry.gif
What if they don't ban the fish but issue permits to those that can house them properly? o.o
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I think some LFS still have existing stock, plus I don't know if banned for sure but I do know there aren't as readily available now as they were before.

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