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 Primitive Fish, Fish that survived Milleniums

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LeeChiaHow
post May 9 2011, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(ggMing @ May 5 2011, 09:28 AM)
Tiger Bichir they call it.. Hehehehe...
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but don't the external gills dissapear with age?
LeeChiaHow
post May 24 2011, 04:27 PM

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My gator gars biggrin.gif
currently have 7 of them tongue.gif

4 inches of cuteness laugh.gif
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22.5 inches of FUN brows.gif
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LeeChiaHow
post May 24 2011, 05:33 PM

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Some of my ANCIENTS biggrin.gif
WAL
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Aros
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Motoro
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enjoy smile.gif

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LeeChiaHow
post May 24 2011, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 24 2011, 08:21 PM)
wa lao~  drool.gif  nice bro!  thumbup.gif  i got one gar, but i think mine is spotted gar, not a gator gar..  he's silver color with spot on his body and a line at his eyes.
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Yours most probably florida gar la
Now I got 7 gators and 7 floridas tongue.gif
LeeChiaHow
post May 24 2011, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 24 2011, 10:19 PM)
yup, it's florida gar! it'll bigger than i thought!!  shocking.gif  erk~ need to upgrade my tank to 4 ft when the time comes~ doh.gif
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Make it 5ft,can keep more stuff brows.gif
LeeChiaHow
post May 24 2011, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 24 2011, 10:36 PM)
6ft better.. haha.  rclxms.gif  what's different between florida gar and spotted gar? how long both can reach in length?
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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 24 2011, 10:56 PM)
Wow.. must be one huge lake! Any pics?  rclxms.gif
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oni can be differentiated after dissecting the fish
the gators will be kept in a 6ft till theyre big enuff to be moved to the pond
floridas in a 5ft by 2ft tank

LeeChiaHow
post May 25 2011, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 24 2011, 11:25 PM)
Mind sharing more pictures of the Gars? I started off with four but only two survived.

Now, I estimate their size as around 10in or so.

What's your feeding schedule like? How many feeders do they whack a day? More importantly, what to do about the huge amount of waste they produce? I have to do water change every other day  blink.gif
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No pics,got video though tongue.gif


I feed them with tetra monster XL pellets and hikari foodsticks every 3 to 5 days,
prawn or fish when my mum buys some
and 1 bag of feeder goldfish once every few months to give them exercise tongue.gif
80% water changes once a week

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post May 25 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 05:19 PM)
That's a 300 gallon pond? Is that a typo bro? How big are the Arapaimas?
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Oh ya,forgot about the typo,supposed to be 200 gallonsXP
the gigas is around 75cm now
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post May 25 2011, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 08:10 PM)

Added on May 25, 2011, 8:17 pm
bro lee n bro pimpin, from ur opinion la, how much the cost if i wanna make an aquarium, it's not an aquarium actually like aqua showroom like at xian leng, 5ft x 5ft  have a glass in front, and another part will concrete.  hmm.gif including the filtration system.
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Not sure leh,need to ask my dad,cause all my tanks he asked his friend to construct punya tongue.gif


Added on May 25, 2011, 10:12 pmSome of my other monsters,some are not ancients though tongue.gif

Dorado & Pbass
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Temensis
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Tigrinus
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1st 5footer
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2nd 5footer
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6ft fgt
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post May 25 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 10:24 PM)
well, help me ask ur dad.. can meh?  brows.gif
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No problem,he was the one that got me into fishes anyway smile.gif
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post May 25 2011, 10:36 PM

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Bros,Sg gonna ban all those toothy fish like gars and atf,will it happen in Malaysia too?
If yes,what will they do to those already owning the fish? blink.gif
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post May 25 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 11:01 PM)
Yeah, I do have about 10 ponds or so. The ones that I have measurements for are the smaller ones: 3000gal, 6000gal, 40000gal and then the rest are all basketball court sizes and larger. But not all in one place of course, but each house has at least one pond.
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Your ponds are concrete ponds or like those arowana breeding farm ponds?

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post May 25 2011, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
I believe its already happened? Ask the fish suppliers to confirm if Gars can be brought in legally anymore. Because people release them into local rivers and lakes - that's why any non-native fish is often banned or viewed as a threat.


Added on May 25, 2011, 11:06 pm

Some are concrete, while some aren't. The biggest concrete pond is the 40,000gal pond. The rest are already mature ecosystems over 10 years old in some cases.


Added on May 25, 2011, 11:07 pm

Some are concrete, while some aren't. The biggest concrete pond is the 40,000gal pond. The rest are already mature ecosystems over 10 years old in some cases.
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Next time my pair of Gigas can tumpang anot? haha tongue.gif
cause my parents may want to put koi in the concrete pond :/
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post May 25 2011, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 25 2011, 11:05 PM)
I believe its already happened? Ask the fish suppliers to confirm if Gars can be brought in legally anymore. Because people release them into local rivers and lakes - that's why any non-native fish is often banned or viewed as a threat.
QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 25 2011, 11:38 PM)
people dont do any research before they get something to keep as pet, like gator gars, they will get huge, and by the time the 3ft tank cant fix them anymore, then they release them to the lake.. that's why all this happen..   nod.gif
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If its already happening,my hopes for cuban and trops are gone cry.gif
What if they don't ban the fish but issue permits to those that can house them properly? o.o

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post May 26 2011, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 26 2011, 12:01 AM)
Sometimes the LFS also don't educate the customers which is why in the US, people buy Giant Gouramis, Pacus, etc not knowing how big they will grow. But customers must also make sure they have all the information as well. Would you adopt a kid without knowing anything about him/her at all?

The practice of releasing into the local waters is the main reason why fishes like these are banned. It's the fault of those who were in over their heads and did not have any other option short of killing the fish.
I think some LFS still have existing stock, plus I don't know if banned for sure but I do know there aren't as readily available now as they were before.
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Keeping big fish in small tanks is too common
My friends are keeping rtc,tsn and giga's in 10 gallon tanks and they say that they'll just stunt the growth so they don't need an upgrade even after I've told them a million times.Some people just wont learn shakehead.gif

You've seen shops with cubans and trops?


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post May 26 2011, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 26 2011, 12:27 AM)
I saw what might have been a Cuban, it was the fairest whitest Gar I've seen about 6in long at this small fish shop in Centrepoint BU. Could be another type of Gar. Was just last week.
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What was the price? tongue.gif
Cubans should be a light olive green at that size
whats the address of the shop? biggrin.gif
I might be going down to KL next week

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post May 26 2011, 09:51 AM

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If can,what about us that are already having the fish?
confiscate?
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post May 26 2011, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(PIMPIN @ May 26 2011, 04:51 PM)
Well the real enforcement will happen on the suppliers/retailers end I suppose. There is no practical way for the government to do anything about the fishes already in the hands of private owners.

Take the case of the hornbill (or whatever bird that was) in Sarawak where owners had a period of amnesty whereby they could surrender their pet with no legal repercussions. That's for an animal native to that part of the world. The fishes we're discussing for the most part aren't native so there is no reason for confiscating aside from destroying the animals.


Added on May 26, 2011, 4:53 pm

Its the only pet shop in Centrepoint bro. Ground floor.
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only one left? price? tongue.gif

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post May 26 2011, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 26 2011, 11:15 PM)
i'm lookin for ornate bichir.. anyone? icon_question.gif
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big ones or small ones?
my friends has one around 30cm dunno he selling anot
one LFS here got small ones for sale smile.gif
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post May 26 2011, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(kasturipurba @ May 26 2011, 11:29 PM)
doesn't matter, but i prefer the smaller one, which lfs...? rolleyes.gif
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CTY aquarium,Penang
I think they also have one vatf left brows.gif

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