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TSredracer2004
post Sep 13 2010, 08:30 AM, updated 16y ago

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Alright I know this has been asked a gazillion times but here I go again with a twist.

1) You met a girl that has a bf.
2) You know you can't touch her and you tell yourself that you shouldn't.
3) However, most of the time, you end up spending time with her alone and you 2 get to enjoy the times in a very simple way.
4) You keep telling yourself not to do so but at the end still fated to be with her.
5) The girl doesn't go out with guys alone and already openly declared it but you end up getting invited to go out with her.

Would you just go and get this girl?
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post Sep 13 2010, 08:41 AM

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I believe in karma, because there are so many people who do things that deserve payback. Fate is bullshit. You make decisions that influence what goes on next. Fate is just for lazy people who just lie back and hope stuff happens the way they want

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post Sep 13 2010, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 09:30 AM)
Alright I know this has been asked a gazillion times but here I go again with a twist.

1) You met a girl that has a bf.
2) You know you can't touch her and you tell yourself that you shouldn't.
3) However, most of the time, you end up spending time with her alone and you 2 get to enjoy the times in a very simple way.
4) You keep telling yourself not to do so but at the end still fated to be with her.
5) The girl doesn't go out with guys alone and already openly declared it but you end up getting invited to go out with her.

Would you just go and get this girl?
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if she can leave other for you be prepare for she she leave you for other as well.
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post Sep 13 2010, 09:50 AM

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Enjoy it. Forget karma. Everything has cause n effect. What's the prob? If u dun take risk, wat's de point of living?

The logic of "she can leave others 4u then she can leave u 4others" is crap. Then if ur gf can decide to marry u then she can also decide to marry others as well?
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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 08:30 AM)
Alright I know this has been asked a gazillion times but here I go again with a twist.

1) You met a girl that has a bf.
2) You know you can't touch her and you tell yourself that you shouldn't.
3) However, most of the time, you end up spending time with her alone and you 2 get to enjoy the times in a very simple way.
4) You keep telling yourself not to do so but at the end still fated to be with her.
5) The girl doesn't go out with guys alone and already openly declared it but you end up getting invited to go out with her.

Would you just go and get this girl?
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If you're fated to receive bad karma, why even bother asking this?
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Sep 12 2010, 09:50 PM)
Enjoy it. Forget karma. Everything has cause n effect. What's the prob? If u dun take risk, wat's de point of living?

The logic of "she can leave others 4u then she can leave u 4others" is crap. Then if ur gf can decide to marry u then she can also decide to marry others as well?
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yes actually.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:58 AM

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A few words of advise, Dont Spannar people's gf. Unless she broke up with him and comes to you, otherwise don't do what is not right.
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post Sep 13 2010, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Sep 13 2010, 11:46 AM)
yes actually.
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Sorry i need to rephrase that. I meant "your wife had married you then she can also marry another man as well".

And yes, anything can happen.

So, why set so many rules & live in a box? Karma might or might not happened. Take the risk, a calculated one.

Nobody dictates the "rule & etiquette of courtship". If TS is in fact better than the bf, Law of Natural Selection applies. It takes 2 to tango.

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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 08:30 AM)
Alright I know this has been asked a gazillion times but here I go again with a twist.

1) You met a girl that has a bf.
2) You know you can't touch her and you tell yourself that you shouldn't.
3) However, most of the time, you end up spending time with her alone and you 2 get to enjoy the times in a very simple way.
4) You keep telling yourself not to do so but at the end still fated to be with her.
5) The girl doesn't go out with guys alone and already openly declared it but you end up getting invited to go out with her.

Would you just go and get this girl?
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Read this lol.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1454995

Have you consider yourself as a rebound guy/girl to the girl herself?
And point no. 5 gets me to think that you are a "girlfriend" to the girl..

And to the post on ^ of me, yeah, dating bf gf is game on, spanar/dispanar can happen.. FFA area. But most of us here hate spanar action..

Ditakdirkan bersama with your loved ones..

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post Sep 13 2010, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Sep 13 2010, 12:01 AM)
Sorry i need to rephrase that. I meant "your wife had married you then she can also marry another man as well".

And yes, anything can happen.

So, why set so many rules & live in a box? Karma might or might not happened. Take the risk, a calculated one.

Nobody dictates the "rule & etiquette of courtship". If TS is in fact better than the bf, Law of Natural Selection applies. It takes 2 to tango.
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but you were talking about "if she can leave him for you, she can leave you for someone else". If she can marry you, she can leave you for another man too!
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post Sep 13 2010, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Sep 13 2010, 12:01 PM)
Sorry i need to rephrase that. I meant "your wife had married you then she can also marry another man as well".

And yes, anything can happen.

So, why set so many rules & live in a box? Karma might or might not happened. Take the risk, a calculated one.

Nobody dictates the "rule & etiquette of courtship". If TS is in fact better than the bf, Law of Natural Selection applies. It takes 2 to tango.
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Dude,u better believe in karma,it will come back at u or your family.No joke.


Added on September 13, 2010, 12:28 pm
QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 08:30 AM)
Alright I know this has been asked a gazillion times but here I go again with a twist.

1) You met a girl that has a bf.
2) You know you can't touch her and you tell yourself that you shouldn't.
3) However, most of the time, you end up spending time with her alone and you 2 get to enjoy the times in a very simple way.
4) You keep telling yourself not to do so but at the end still fated to be with her.
5) The girl doesn't go out with guys alone and already openly declared it but you end up getting invited to go out with her.

Would you just go and get this girl?
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perhaps u feel great if someone spannar your gf or perhaps u feel better if someone spannar your father or mother.

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post Sep 13 2010, 12:58 PM

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i believe in what is meant to be will be.

in other words, u take ur responsibility in what u do. but whether her relationship with her bf fails or the relationship between u two wins, it is solely dependent on her alone. it takes two to clap.
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post Sep 13 2010, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(djcarmen @ Sep 13 2010, 12:58 PM)
i believe in what is meant to be will be.

in other words, u take ur responsibility in what u do. but whether her relationship with her bf fails or the relationship between u two wins, it is solely dependent on her alone. it takes two to clap.
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But then again, from the scenario, it seems that the other hand is clapping as well. I know you guys will come out with quotes like:

"Why can't you choose girls that are single?"
"Why must you destroy the happiness of a couple?"

But then again, I would say in reality that 9 out of 10 men in this world, if they were faced in such a situation, they'd go straight and spanar. Many men (including my friends) say "Happiness is something you fight your way for. If you don't struggle for the said happiness, you will lose it." Although at first I was at a disagreement on this but it seemed that the above scenario that I have encountered, opened me up to the fact that maybe Fate and God wants me to pursue my own happiness in a 'spanaring' way. Nobody knows.

However, if the girl above really did have feelings on me (of course she did at that time if I explained further), then was I the only one at wrong? Don't tell me if I didn't take care of her needs and care for her, it be better and she won't fall for me?

If you guys know the full story, you'd say I be right to spanar because the fact that SHE LIKED ME. But then again, maybe it's too late now.
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post Sep 13 2010, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ Sep 13 2010, 12:20 PM)
but you were talking about "if she can leave him for you, she can leave you for someone else". If she can marry you, she can leave you for another man too!
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Agree. Anything can happen. A wife today might not be a wife forever. Humans change. Even if the partner/spouse is too good, it doesnt mean the other partner/spouse wont be promiscuos. No hard n fast rules.

@agent 45
Karma does happen, but love is not a waiting game. Ops... maybe this is not love afterall. He wanna jump into the hole, he shld be prepared to climb out. If not, its his fault 4being ill prepared.


Added on September 13, 2010, 1:29 pm
QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 01:17 PM)
But then again, from the scenario, it seems that the other hand is clapping as well. I know you guys will come out with quotes like:

"Why can't you choose girls that are single?"
"Why must you destroy the happiness of a couple?"

But then again, I would say in reality that 9 out of 10 men in this world, if they were faced in such a situation, they'd go straight and spanar. Many men (including my friends) say "Happiness is something you fight your way for. If you don't struggle for the said happiness, you will lose it." Although at first I was at a disagreement on this but it seemed that the above scenario that I have encountered, opened me up to the fact that maybe Fate and God wants me to pursue my own happiness in a 'spanaring' way. Nobody knows.

However, if the girl above really did have feelings on me (of course she did at that time if I explained further), then was I the only one at wrong? Don't tell me if I didn't take care of her needs and care for her, it be better and she won't fall for me?

If you guys know the full story, you'd say I be right to spanar because the fact that SHE LIKED ME. But then again, maybe it's too late now.
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Tell whole story pls. Long time no story liao. Lol

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post Sep 13 2010, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 01:17 PM)
But then again, from the scenario, it seems that the other hand is clapping as well. I know you guys will come out with quotes like:

"Why can't you choose girls that are single?"
"Why must you destroy the happiness of a couple?"

But then again, I would say in reality that 9 out of 10 men in this world, if they were faced in such a situation, they'd go straight and spanar. Many men (including my friends) say "Happiness is something you fight your way for. If you don't struggle for the said happiness, you will lose it." Although at first I was at a disagreement on this but it seemed that the above scenario that I have encountered, opened me up to the fact that maybe Fate and God wants me to pursue my own happiness in a 'spanaring' way. Nobody knows.

However, if the girl above really did have feelings on me (of course she did at that time if I explained further), then was I the only one at wrong? Don't tell me if I didn't take care of her needs and care for her, it be better and she won't fall for me?

If you guys know the full story, you'd say I be right to spanar because the fact that SHE LIKED ME. But then again, maybe it's too late now.
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1st thing is, are you really sure if she would jump to your side?

But there's a question on her, if she is willing to be spannared by you, what makes you think that she won't get spannared by another guy in coming years?

Go ahead spannar, you may bring short happiness or long. No human can tell you what kind of outcome will happen. Good luck. Who knows if the bf of your spannared girl takes a parang and you appear on news? No one can tell. By all means do what you think you should.
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QUOTE(furryfluffy @ Sep 13 2010, 01:20 PM)
@agent 45
Karma does happen, but love is not a waiting game. Ops... maybe this is not love afterall. He wanna jump into the hole, he shld be prepared to climb out. If not, its his fault 4being ill prepared.


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i need to clarify something,i didnt say that love is a waiting game.....did I??? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 01:17 PM)
But then again, from the scenario, it seems that the other hand is clapping as well. I know you guys will come out with quotes like:

"Why can't you choose girls that are single?"
"Why must you destroy the happiness of a couple?"

But then again, I would say in reality that 9 out of 10 men in this world, if they were faced in such a situation, they'd go straight and spanar. Many men (including my friends) say "Happiness is something you fight your way for. If you don't struggle for the said happiness, you will lose it." Although at first I was at a disagreement on this but it seemed that the above scenario that I have encountered, opened me up to the fact that maybe Fate and God wants me to pursue my own happiness in a 'spanaring' way. Nobody knows.

However, if the girl above really did have feelings on me (of course she did at that time if I explained further), then was I the only one at wrong? Don't tell me if I didn't take care of her needs and care for her, it be better and she won't fall for me?

If you guys know the full story, you'd say I be right to spanar because the fact that SHE LIKED ME. But then again, maybe it's too late now.
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its hard to say. but as i said, it takes two hands to clap. other words, both are clapping the hands.

whether one to choose the path or not, its up to the person. when someone goes astray to someone else instead of the bf/gf.. it means there's a problem in the relationship or the person. whichever way it is.. if there's no discussion made, n no solutions placed.. it wil end up as a breakup.
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QUOTE(redracer2004 @ Sep 13 2010, 01:17 PM)
But then again, I would say in reality that 9 out of 10 men in this world, if they were faced in such a situation, they'd go straight and spanar. Many men (including my friends) say "Happiness is something you fight your way for. If you don't struggle for the said happiness, you will lose it." Although at first I was at a disagreement on this but it seemed that the above scenario that I have encountered, opened me up to the fact that maybe Fate and God wants me to pursue my own happiness in a 'spanaring' way. Nobody knows.
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why are u comparing yourself with those ppl??yes,we fight for our happiness but i believe that most ppl misjudged this statement.if the girl is SINGLE then u all may go ahead and have a fair competition.in this case,u fight for your happiness.in a competition,there will be a winner and losers,sometimes u win sometimes u lose.u dont screw up ppl's life by spannaring their partner. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Agent 45 @ Sep 13 2010, 01:59 PM)
i need to clarify something,i didnt say that love is a waiting game.....did I??? unsure.gif
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I was referring to not to spanar someone's gf/bf. Sometimes it's not advisable to wait. Btw, u already said so in latest reply above. As long as not married, the competition still on n valid. If u wait till she/he is single, hw long r u gonna wait?

I understand wat u r saying. If no bf, then any number of suitor can compete. But im saying, as long as not married, any suitor still stand a chance. Ppl call this spanner, i call this OK. Depends on everyone's interpretation n attitude towards relationship.

On legal issues, it is an offense to "enticing or taking away a married woman". As long as not married, it's only moral issue, which is subjective.
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post Sep 13 2010, 02:33 PM

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TS, first things first. Forget fate n karma BS.

What you need to know is, is this girl just "playing" with you to kill time when her BF is busy. If yes. STAY AWAY or you'll get burnt playing with fire.

Else, if she is really interested in you (and already bored with her BF), then you might have a chance. Then just go ahead. But ask her to end things with her BF BEFORE you guys start anything. Else, he has all the rights to come beat you up; at least in my books.

What can happen is you guys may really hit it off but do remember, if this scenario can happen to her BF, then it can also happen you (when you become her BF) if she gets bored with you or whatever her reason maybe. But then again, at least she won't be "the fish that got away"

All the best

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