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Humanities Cutting queue is a Malaysian issue?, education plays a role

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TSabubin
post Sep 9 2010, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(xyber9 @ Sep 9 2010, 11:38 AM)
What about elderly people cutting queue?
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haha..yeah...I have seen some cases where elderly people cut queue. They are old...so most people will let them be. Most would think these old people doesn't know the queue cause they are old. Well...respect the old like some said... smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2010, 03:30 PM

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Same case for me, saw old peoples trying to get into bus. Thought of letting them in first, kesian them. But, old people even more rude than us. Literally they knock off all the ppl around them and rush into the bus.

But I don't think this is an issue in Malaysia. Wait until you see mainland China people. They are 10 times more rude and uneducated compared to Malaysians.
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QUOTE(MisterCrono @ Sep 10 2010, 03:30 PM)
Same case for me, saw old peoples trying to get into bus. Thought of letting them in first, kesian them. But, old people even more rude than us. Literally they knock off all the ppl around them and rush into the bus.

But I don't think this is an issue in Malaysia. Wait until you see mainland China people. They are 10 times more rude and uneducated compared to Malaysians.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Sep 7 2010, 03:22 PM)
Do any of you experience people cutting your queue or you cutting people's queue? Do not talk about driving. Only applies to human queue.

Such as when buying food or tickets or queuing for rides.

I find that in China, people will cut queue because a lot of these people come from uncivilized part of China. They even have to put queue police in McDonald's to make sure people queue up. Despite that, people are still cutting queue in McD. Anyway, that is China.

What about in Malaysia? Anyone of you think Malaysians are also uncivilized bunch of queue cutting morons?

Education level in Malaysia are pretty high. I am sure people are aware that cutting queue is not right but they still do it. Is it a Malaysian culture thingie?

From religious point of view, religion only emphasize on things that are more serious such as killing or rape or stealing. But petty things like queuing is not enforced in religion. But the thing is, queue cutting is such a small matter that it is no even considered sin? So a man can go cut queue all he wants and still go to heaven (when he die)?

For example, a recent experience I had. I was queuing for a ride in a themepark. There was this man with 2 daughters behind me. Then this man pretend to want to see what's ahead and cross over me to front. Then he started standing next to me. While the queue continue to move, his other two daughter started to walk past in front of him and soon it ended up his family of three standing in front of me. I am sure this guy (and his daughters) know they have cut queue but they acted like nothing. Shouldn't queuing be a mentality thing rather than physical? That means mentally, I know I am behind you. So I just stand where I should and even if I happen to be in front of you, I should be "courteous" enough to let you pass first because I KNOW I am behind you. Instead of physically squeezing in front of people and then thinking...yeah yeah..I am now in front of you...

People who cut queues, don't you have any manners? Or you just do not care because you can get away with it from authorities or from your god?
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I got experience in watching a person cutting queue, and the woman got scolded like a dog, and been forced to go back to the end of the queue, really shameful.
You should make noise and make him/her feel shame about cutting queue. lol


Added on September 10, 2010, 4:17 pm
QUOTE(ravi6662 @ Sep 7 2010, 05:38 PM)
asians have no mentality of que up...
u can see it at lrt.. or ktm..
theres marks on the platform..
let others out before enter, que on the side..
but everyone try to go in at once.
kurang ajar mah...
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Saw many times, people who wanna come out from train scolded those morons who rushing and push going into the train.
got once almost fighting.
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QUOTE(Zozi @ Sep 10 2010, 03:40 PM)
Those are not people, those are animals
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lol yea.

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post Sep 10 2010, 04:57 PM

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I met most queue cutters are elderly people xpecially chinese aunties. They have the mentality that they are senior and they deserve a different treatment so its nothing wrong for them to cut queues
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I haven't met queue cutting situations for years.. cause I just don't to places where I have to queue XD

(thats like having not lost chess for 10 years cuz i never play it lalalaa)
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post Sep 10 2010, 05:44 PM

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for me... if you want to cut in the queue directly in front of me, ask first and give me a reason why... if i don't accept, you go to the back...

if they simply cut in, i'll tell them politely where the end of the queue is... if they ignore, i will shout loudly for everyone to hear... if still ignore, i'll push them hard, step on their shoes, trip them when the queue start moving, especially on public transport queue...
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post Sep 10 2010, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(raymond @ Sep 10 2010, 05:44 PM)
for me... if you want to cut in the queue directly in front of me, ask first and give me a reason why... if i don't accept, you go to the back...

if they simply cut in, i'll tell them politely where the end of the queue is... if they ignore, i will shout loudly for everyone to hear... if still ignore, i'll push them hard, step on their shoes, trip them when the queue start moving, especially on public transport queue...
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even if old people you will do that? People will say you disrespect senior
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QUOTE(raymond @ Sep 10 2010, 08:44 PM)
for me... if you want to cut in the queue directly in front of me, ask first and give me a reason why... if i don't accept, you go to the back...

if they simply cut in, i'll tell them politely where the end of the queue is... if they ignore, i will shout loudly for everyone to hear... if still ignore, i'll push them hard, step on their shoes, trip them when the queue start moving, especially on public transport queue...
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*pushes raymond out of the queue* thumbup.gif (sorrry I think I'll get a warning post over this but i can't help it)

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My personal solution of dealing with queue cutters.

Jump right infront of him/her , thus cutting his/her queue, turn around and ask him/her "How does that feel ? "
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post Sep 10 2010, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Zozi @ Sep 10 2010, 10:03 PM)
My personal solution of dealing with queue cutters.

Jump right infront of him/her , thus cutting his/her queue, turn around and ask him/her  "How does that feel ? "
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but thats so childish
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post Sep 10 2010, 10:11 PM

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If you look at it from one angle, yeah its childish. But look at it from another, wouldn't that put a smile for all others whom their queues been cut as well ? Wouldn't that send a clear msg to this queue cutter's face? Public will look at him with acknowledgement to my action, and this dude/lad will be ashamed of his/her own action

Its childish because its simple and probably most immature solution, but the result is better than keeping quiet and rant about it in the forum.
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post Sep 11 2010, 12:10 AM

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not really(rare) have this issue at malaysia.
but i was once experienced this at China(Dalian i think) and gosh, 1 group of China people(4-5 including women) just jump the queue in front of us when checking in the airport...my uncle scold them but heck,they don't even care and ignore us..our tour guide told us is common and no need waste time on them doh.gif
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post Sep 11 2010, 12:43 AM

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Cutting queue shows that there is a lack of fairness in the country. When there is no system and so much unfairness, it is primal instinct to act against natural law.

In western countries, queue cutting is frowned upon. You may even be scolded for it.
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the "Tidak Apa" attitude is whats inside the mentality of most people in malaysia, it cant be helped if the government dont act against it.
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post Sep 11 2010, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(Zozi @ Sep 11 2010, 02:24 AM)
the "Tidak Apa" attitude is whats inside the mentality of most people in malaysia, it cant be helped if the government dont act against it.
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its not something the govmn can do. its how the society being brought up n its not an easy thing to change. starts from the family how they educate their children.
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QUOTE(fifi85 @ Sep 11 2010, 10:05 AM)
its not something the govmn can do. its how the society being brought up n its not an easy thing to change. starts from the family how they educate their children.
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Government do play a big part in this in fact. If the government today announces its wish and effort to really enforce in the line of education that Queuing up is compulsory and by all means, they will make it happen. Then imagine our society 30 years later, when queuing up will eventually become a habit among malaysians. Family is important too, but family cannot work alone in producing such results, because many families out there couldn't care less.



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post Sep 16 2010, 10:24 AM

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it is unfair to blame the government when the cutting queue has become a culture. we should aware and realize that it is not only children that cut queue but even adult and senior citizen are doing it without fail. take as for example smoking, even with all of the law enforcement and campaign done, there are still lots of smokers that continue smoking even in public area

it is time for us to stop blaming this and that and start looking within our self and change the mentality. if we fail to do this, then this issue will be habit for us malaysian for the rest of of our live.
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post Sep 28 2010, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(prototype_x0 @ Sep 16 2010, 10:24 AM)
it is unfair to blame the government when the cutting queue has become a culture. we should aware and realize that it is not only children that cut queue but even adult and senior citizen are doing it without fail. take as for example smoking, even with all of the law enforcement and campaign done, there are still lots of smokers that continue smoking even in public area

it is time for us to stop blaming this and that and start looking within our self and change the mentality. if we fail to do this, then this issue will be habit for us malaysian for the rest of of our live.
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WTF... in digital mall.. toilet... people smoking directly UNDER big sign that says NO SMOKING..!!!
one guy was even looking/facing the sign and smoking..
these are same people who have no disregard to signs..
they probably go thru "no entry" signs..
or do not STOP at stop signs..
kurang ajar............. or kurang BELAJAR??

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I consider being inconsiderate to be among the gretest sin of all. And there are a LOT of inconsiderate Malaysians.

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