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TSabubin
post Sep 7 2010, 03:22 PM, updated 16y ago

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Do any of you experience people cutting your queue or you cutting people's queue? Do not talk about driving. Only applies to human queue.

Such as when buying food or tickets or queuing for rides.

I find that in China, people will cut queue because a lot of these people come from uncivilized part of China. They even have to put queue police in McDonald's to make sure people queue up. Despite that, people are still cutting queue in McD. Anyway, that is China.

What about in Malaysia? Anyone of you think Malaysians are also uncivilized bunch of queue cutting morons?

Education level in Malaysia are pretty high. I am sure people are aware that cutting queue is not right but they still do it. Is it a Malaysian culture thingie?

From religious point of view, religion only emphasize on things that are more serious such as killing or rape or stealing. But petty things like queuing is not enforced in religion. But the thing is, queue cutting is such a small matter that it is no even considered sin? So a man can go cut queue all he wants and still go to heaven (when he die)?

For example, a recent experience I had. I was queuing for a ride in a themepark. There was this man with 2 daughters behind me. Then this man pretend to want to see what's ahead and cross over me to front. Then he started standing next to me. While the queue continue to move, his other two daughter started to walk past in front of him and soon it ended up his family of three standing in front of me. I am sure this guy (and his daughters) know they have cut queue but they acted like nothing. Shouldn't queuing be a mentality thing rather than physical? That means mentally, I know I am behind you. So I just stand where I should and even if I happen to be in front of you, I should be "courteous" enough to let you pass first because I KNOW I am behind you. Instead of physically squeezing in front of people and then thinking...yeah yeah..I am now in front of you...

People who cut queues, don't you have any manners? Or you just do not care because you can get away with it from authorities or from your god?
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:26 PM

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I never did cut a cue, and as far as my experience in departmental store, ticket counters, McD, KFC and many more places, i've never seen anyone cutting queue.
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:26 PM

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cuz of kiasuness mentality for easy conclusion..

lets say if we/u do like what that guy doing..sure he will mad like hell..
sure spoil ur holiday right that time..
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:28 PM

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maybe they didn't know you were actually queuing, a lot of the times people standing around the queues might just be looking at the ride, in foreign countries people normally have the etiquette to ask "hi, are you waiting? or hi, are you in the queue?" I do not believe this etiquette exist in Malaysia.

That said, this topic is opened under phd school thread and classified (humanities). Why? :|

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post Sep 7 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Fadly @ Sep 7 2010, 03:26 PM)
I never did cut a cue, and as far as my experience in departmental store, ticket counters, McD, KFC and many more places, i've never seen anyone cutting queue.
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u able to see if u use public transportation...animal n human that time almost same...

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post Sep 7 2010, 03:30 PM

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it is a problem in malaysia people just have no patients

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post Sep 7 2010, 03:32 PM

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Once or twice I did tell the person who is trying to cut queue to go behind the line.
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(fhatz @ Sep 7 2010, 03:29 PM)
u able to see if u use public transportation...animal n human that time almost same...
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Except that of course. but that because there's no instruction to queue. if there's a queue lane made at LRT, i bet people will queue.

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post Sep 7 2010, 03:38 PM

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i never did tell anyone off before but now everytime i see it happen i will tell the person off immediately it is so annoying they come infront of you quietly and pretend like they were there before
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Sep 7 2010, 03:38 PM)
i never did tell anyone off before but now everytime i see it happen i will tell the person off immediately it is so annoying they come infront of you quietly and pretend like they were there before
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I'll bark. if someone cutting my cue, i will bark. i don't care what happen.

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post Sep 7 2010, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(fhatz @ Sep 7 2010, 03:26 PM)
cuz of kiasuness mentality for easy conclusion..

lets say if we/u do like what that guy doing..sure he will mad like hell..
sure spoil ur holiday right that time..
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I am those type that won't let things like this spoil my mood. They want to cut go ahead. I usually have this laid back mood where I am not in a rush to go anywhere. This tend to create less stress. Instead of those rushing to do something to eat rushing to go rides, go watch something...rush rush rush...that is not "holiday" for me.

Reason this is in PhD, is because I also want people to talk about queue mentality from the point of education and religion. Especially do not want /k/ people to reply with their stupid one liners.
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:51 PM

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only extreme kiasu's will do it...
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:59 PM

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i never cut queue but i dont think is only malaysian problem. it happens anywhere in the world
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post Sep 7 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(daccorn @ Sep 7 2010, 03:28 PM)
maybe they didn't know you were actually queuing, a lot of the times people standing around the queues might just be looking at the ride, in foreign countries people normally have the etiquette to ask "hi, are you waiting? or hi, are you in the queue?" I do not believe this etiquette exist in Malaysia.

That said, this topic is opened under phd school thread and classified (humanities). Why? :|
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This is clearly a queue line. Everyone there is queuing. You know...those themepark rides where they have clear definition that it is queue for that ride. Yes..people wth etiquette will not do petty things like cutting queue. Only morons who are like staying in caves do that. The bad thing is, he is setting bad example for his child.

I do believe all these bad influence and bad role model does contribute to the bad upbringing which in the end causes bad morality in the society. Things like teen pregnancy and fighting and vandalism all comes from these parents who are irresponsible with teaching their kids. They instill things like education and religion into the kids and put the responsibility in school teachers or god. They themselves are showing bad example.
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I find people in Malaysia at least have very little remorse for doing anything that is wrong. It's like 'Wrong? So what? Get lost sucker'. It is a really sad environment.

My worst experience is 3 years ago at Bon Odori. Was lining to buy some stuff for my friends so I lined up at the very back. Damn the queue was so long. But when I finally got closer I knew what was going on. People literally squeezes in from all sides! With no remorse or sorry to those who have lined up for at least half an hour. What's shocking to me is that when I went back to my friends, first thing they said (since I did took a very long time), "You lined up properly is it? Just cut the queue la". I was like WTF.

Sadly this is the kind of mind Malaysian has. Still on 3rd world selfishness with no remorse for doing anything wrong.

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Sep 7 2010, 04:07 PM)
I find people in Malaysia at least have very little remorse for doing anything that is wrong. It's like 'Wrong? So what? Get lost sucker'. It is a really sad environment.

My worst experience is 3 years ago at Bon Odori. Was lining to buy some stuff for my friends so I lined up at the very back. Damn the queue was so long. But when I finally got closer I knew what was going on. People literally squeezes in from all sides! With no remorse or sorry to those who have lined up for at least half an hour. What's shocking to me is that when I went back to my friends, first thing they said (since I did took a very long time), "You lined up properly is it? Just cut the queue la". I was like WTF.

Sadly this is the kind of mind Malaysian has. Still on 3rd world selfishness with no remorse for doing anything wrong.
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yes..yes...good example of people do it, I do it kind of mentality. The no remorse is because of the upbringing. Their parents did not teach them about manners.
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:11 PM

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In Malaysia, I think cutting queue like at fast food restaurants aren't that great an issue.

I rarely see people cut queue, but I see people line up in 2 or more different lines of queue. Eg, a family visits KFC, KFC is often slower in serving than other fast food I believe. In such cases, the family would assign father 1 queue, mother 1 queue, children in another queue or 2.

So quite often the queues actually look long but just wait a while and you'll see that once one of the family members reach the counter, the rest will abandon their queue.

Of course I'm using FAMILY as an example. It could be with a couple, friends or whoever that happens to agree with the pattern.

They just couldn't bear to see the person that came later than them on another queue actually reached the counter first.

Perhaps that's a form of queue-cutting, what do you think?
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post Sep 7 2010, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(insane.gamer @ Sep 7 2010, 03:30 PM)
it is a problem in malaysia people just have no patients
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Thats because not everyone is a doctor. doh.gif It's patience.

PS : I'm always in grammar nazi mode.

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post Sep 7 2010, 05:27 PM

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btw, you were correcting spelling there. not grammar. tongue.gif

now back to topic, yes patience is something lacking. tolerance is another thing.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 7 2010, 05:27 PM)
btw, you were correcting spelling there. not grammar. tongue.gif

now back to topic, yes patience is something lacking. tolerance is another thing.
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