I hope I'm not late to comment on this :)

I have a different point of view regarding sex and relationship. I believe, people can have sex without relationship and vice versa.

I'm 27. At my age, sex is a strong biological need. When I don't have any girlfriend, I satisfy the urge by masturbating. I never tried and has no interest to prostitution. Occasionally, I have sex with like-minded girls who want to have sex with no string attached. The funny thing is, I still in contact with them (so it's not one night stand, never did any).

When I have a girlfriend, I express my sexual desire with her. If she happen to be a virgin, and doesn't ready to have sex, I resort to masturbation, and making out with her. The thing is, since I love her so much, I respect her sexual preference (that is, no sex).

I'm not perfect. I once had a girlfriend who refused to have sex with me. She's not a virgin (she had sex a couple of times before with her ex), but she "realized that sex before marriage is not good thus no longer want to do it again". I was like.. WTF? Why when with me suddenly you become a saint? Eventually we had sex :) The thing is, I want "justice". For me, it's not fair if she did it with her ex but not with me. I told you I'm not perfect.

With all the girls I've had relationship with (sex and no sex), did sex has something to do with the break up? Hardly. I had a girl who's very good at pleasing me. But we broke up because she's too demanding (she had me choose between a new job with 2x salary increment and staying nearby her <-- the new job still in the same city!).

Conclusion: For those who treat sex as "special" (will only do in marriage), find someone who share your belief. You're not wrong. For those who treat sex as "just another activity", don't overrate it.

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Kesian. Sounds like one of the stories in LY CC. Is it that TS is your friend lol!

Keep the factory running

Man I love your story. Especially the bolded part. You one lucky b*stard to nail friends!

And good confession of masturbating

hey thanks bro!

correction: they were not my friends. after we had sex then we became friends. and I don't have sex with them regularly.

regarding masturbation, girls also do that. at least some of the girls who are close with me do that.
i have a friend in another state who called me while she masturbated (which was annoying, since she did that when I was *at work*)

Hey bro, you are such a lucky man.

1. Sex with any girl and later become friends
2. Girls call you and masturbated.

How I wish I can become like you, to have a sex partner... Coz my GF sucks in sex thingy. Can't statisfy me. T.T Any advise?

Practice. Lots and lots of practice.

my advise is simple: ASK HER.

the idea of having sex is not to satisfy yourself, but most importantly, to satisfy your partner. sometimes you and your partner don't know that.
you can talk about this with her, heart-to-heart. be honest about what you want, and be willing to help her to satisfy you.
of course, be fair, you must be able to satisfy her too

let me give you example.

when i asked my girl to do anal, she was upset. she thought, "you think my V not enough to satisfy you?". actually i just wanted some variation! but i asked it wrongly. later on, after we're more open to each other, she voluntarily said, "hey, you want to try anal?" she tried everything to satisfy me. in return, i tried everything to satisfy her.

sex is over rated...

As I have previously said on this very thread, people who say sex is over-rated are just not doing it rite.

I asked her before how do she feel and so on. She say don't know how to explain la but I know she is enjoying la. The problem is she said she is too lazy to do other things and just let me play over her body and she just lie on the bed. She only like the man top women bottom position because thats the position that she can lie down comfortably and enjoy. Not fair... Sometimes I do enjoy but not everytime. How ah?

Well, it does sound like she's a selfish lover...

But first, consider improving your own skills first. If you want her to be more proactive, you need to really get her aroused. Then only she'll be semangat. It could be that she's never really known how good sex can be - a lot of Asian/traditionally-minded women have that problem.

Learn how to give her an orgasm. And learn how to tell if her orgasm is real.

every man seen to be desperate for sex
nowadays seriusly cant find a virgin girl

Imo, sex is only needed when the couple are really in love with each other and are ready to do so. Do it for love not lust


That's not true, maybe you live in a very "dirty" place lol. Where the girls all don't have dignity.
Real men want a real relationship not sex. Someone that love a girl for what she is, and cares for her. Being there in hard times for her.. etc

This post has been edited by DreamHack: Sep 13 2010, 07:25 PM

How to make her semangat ah? When i aroused her until her orgasm (I supposed), then she say she is too tired to continue. Not even start cucuk sudah wan to sleep... T.T How la, I got semangat... Thats why sometimes I rather watch porn then making love... T.T Where to find a sex partner... HELP ME!!!

You're doin it wrong maybe, or perhaps she is not ready for it yet? You have to understand.

I think I do it wrongly la. Coz I don't think she is not ready for it. She is just to lazy to have sex.... T.T I must think of a way to make her feel better... Thanks guys... Well, if got sex partner please intro to me also ok? I AM A BAD BOY!!!

Again - make the effort to learn new things before you give up.

"I told you i'm not perfect" is not the good excuse for you to think "it's alright if I do something 'wrong' "
just according to your logic, if you happen to find a virgin 'tunang' it's only fair that she go have sex with others first before becoming your wife.

Right now I have a partner whom I usually meet on the weekend. We usually have 3-4 sessions in those 2 days. She's single mom (had given birth!) and much older than me, so her "tightness" not comparable to my 24y/o ex, but having it with her is much more enjoyable than my ex. So it's about the person and the technique.

My ex was also "lazy", but she might be uneducated (about sex). I tried to educate her, but she's very close-minded and conservative (and you're wondering why she had sex with me at all). dexterhau, I have to say, based on my experience, it might be not your fault. If you have tried hard to educate/inform/teach her and she persists, either you have to accept her the way she is, or leave her (so both of you can find suitable partner).

Oh, one more thing. You girlfriend behaves like that can also be caused by her feeling. She might feel guilty (explain to her!), she might found you not attractive enough (shape up your body!), or she might do that just for the sake of "because I have to do it" (tell her!).

Back to relationship: I agree relationship is more than just sex. Like now, I GET CHICKEN POX (can you f*ckingly believe that?). I'm alone in KL, and I hope my partner can visit me after she goes back from her holiday. Had I not have her, I would be so pathetic, being sick and being alone.

For toda_II, I never thought my action was "alright", I just said sometimes I'm a jerk too.
As for "fairness", I never have issue whether my future wife virgin/not. But if she's a virgin, it's a plus. Even girls who had sex consider having a virgin husband a plus (actually, they found it kind of cute).