If course the manner of the way we draw is not acceptable. I seriously doesn't know what the hell happens in that 3 minutes.

What also not acceptable is that ppl already written off our chances after 4 games.

.. certain forumers nowdays having regular PMS you see 

At least dia pernah join gathering banyak kali bila MUST buat live match viewing.

Jom join kalu nak, masa tu kita boleh discuss about our team face to face. Ada brani?

@Boxy, aku paham how you feels. Masa end of season 2010 ramai poster dah bash Berba kata dia dah tua lah buat rugi duit lah. Skrg sapa yang perform and top scorer Utd? I learn from my mistakes when I kutuk Fletcher many seasons ago. Thats why I keep saying give Berba some slack.

Skrg ni semua whining pasai draw 2 kali nih. Macam budak-budak bila mak tak kasi 2posen nak beli gula gula.

I don't mind that we got off to a bad start to the season.
I've followed United and on a few occasions they do have glitches.
I have confidence in them no doubt.
Forever a Devil I am.

karma is biting us in our buttock    everytime score late winners (against city). Now we must be mentally prepared to be scored a late winner from City 

jokes aside, anyone else thinks our right back position is in a little trouble right now? If i remembered correctly, the two goals conceded was like from header and a shot after we cleared a header right? Was it from the cross from the right side? Its definately disturbing to find Neville not in his best shape anymore, some rather silly tackles. And his backup, John O'Shea not so in form, i mean, frankly, he did not play well to me. Maybe injury or what, but still.. not so impressive on the right side. Rafael is too inexperience, well i hope he learns from his red card against Bayern so that he won't repeat the mistake again. Since our right back position kinda a bit cacat-ed ed, why don't we let Rafael have a run at it. See if he can outshine his seniors.

For someone who just only mentioned to not wanting to continue w the ongoing arguments, that's uncalled for.

One of the thing that puzzles me is the RB post. I am not sure on the rotation now. We started with O'Shea then Neville. Is Rafael injured or something?

I can understand why Sir Alex didn't want to rush Rafael in RB slot. The kid needs more experience and stiff competition with experience RB. The fact is that Rafael has a lot of talent but at the same time he always makes rash or 'rugby' tackles. It is better to let him play on odd games.

the kid is skinny right?need to bulk up more muscle 

Well,he certainly won't be gaining experience sitting on the bench 

I want to see Rafael or neville start at RB instead of JOS. Nevilles crossing will definitely come in handy when we play Berba and Rooney on top again.

Yes but he can play as sub or easier league or cup games. No harm done if JOS play. He is a decent RB with a lot experience. Sure he is slower and doesn't cross a lot but his positioning and knowing time to tackle. Therefore JOS is better choice. As for Gary , he is more reliable than JOS if he is fit which is rarely now.

Just hope Hargreaves comes back and he can fill RB slot against big teams. 

the moment evra was subbed out, i had a bad feeling.

what to do... He managed AC Milan before ma  Very good in handling veterans

fixed for u 

karma is biting us in our buttock    every time score late winners (against city). Now we must be mentally prepared to be scored a late winner from City 

jokes aside, anyone else thinks our right back position is in a little trouble right now? If i remembered correctly, the two goals conceded was like from header and a shot after we cleared a header right? Was it from the cross from the right side? Its definately disturbing to find Neville not in his best shape any more, some rather silly tackles. And his backup, John O'Shea not so in form, i mean, frankly, he did not play well to me. Maybe injury or what, but still.. not so impressive on the right side. Rafael is too inexperience, well i hope he learns from his red card against Bayern so that he won't repeat the mistake again. Since our right back position kinda a bit cacat-ed ed, why don't we let Rafael have a run at it. See if he can outshine his seniors.

In 92-93 season, Steve Bruce's famous two stoppage time goals became the catalyst to our march for the first Premier League Title.

Who knows with Everton's 2 goals in stoppage time will give us a kick in the back side. Better to happen now that in last game of the season.

Sir Alex Ferguson has revealed that Gary Neville will no longer wear the captain's armband at Manchester United.

The veteran full-back has held the honour since Roy Keane departed the club in 2005.

However, injuries have taken their toll over recent seasons and he is no longer a first-team regular.

Taking that into account, Ferguson is keen to pass the armband on to someone who is a mainstay in his plans.

He feels continuity on the field is important and believes Neville is no longer capable of playing the number of games required from an on-field leader.

"Gary is still club captain but I have been looking for someone who is going to be playing consistently every week," said Ferguson.

"Over the last two or three years we have had to pass the baton along the line a few times.

Respect

"We have not had a consistent captain because Gary's injuries have prevented him playing all the time. If he was available all the time he would be the captain. He would have been on Saturday (against Everton). But I have to look at the overall picture.

"With all due respect to Gary's time at United, he knows and I know, we don't play him every week and I am looking for someone who does (play)."

Neville has spent his entire career with United, and is a lifelong supporter of the club, but understands his manager's logic and will not question the decision.

He said: "It is a great honour but it has never been the major priority for me.

"I wasn't captain for most of my career. It is not unusual."

It is expected that Ferguson will turn to either Rio Ferdinand, the England skipper, or his centre-half partner Nemanja Vidic, who led the side against the Toffees, to replace Neville.

Sir Alex Ferguson has admitted Manchester United may have to dig deep to replace the old guard.

For the second summer running, Ferguson has opted not to spend heavily in the transfer market.

United are yet to make a high-profile signing since the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez last year, with United having invested in excess of £20million to capture Javier Hernandez, Chris Smalling and Bebe this summer.

Ferguson's thrifty approach has led to accusations he is being handicapped by the huge debts incurred by the Glazer family, something both he and chief executive David Gill have repeatedly denied.

The United boss feels the Red Devils have enough youngsters coming through at present to do the business.

However, Ferguson accepts he may have to splash out once veterans Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Gary Neville hang up their boots.

"We are not at the point where we have to go overboard to get the best player in the world," he said.

"There are enough really top players in the club at the moment.

Stretch

"There may be a time in the next couple of years where we have to stretch ourselves, particularly when Ryan, Paul and Gary retire.

"Then, it is a possibility we would need to get really top players in to galvanise the younger ones coming through.

"But at the moment we have the experience. We have players who have been through the whole gamut of emotions at this club and know how to deal with it."

While Manchester City and Real Madrid have been by far the busiest clubs in the transfer market over the last 18 months, Ferguson insists he has money to spend if he feels his squad is not up to scratch.

One target

"We have no financial restrictions," he said. "If I hadn't been confident maybe we would have done something.

"But there was only one player I would have brought here and that move was sealed off quite early by the club he went to.

"The best thing we can do until the market becomes more sensible is produce or buy young players and develop them in the club.

"By doing that we are easily securing the next eight years at Manchester United."

LOL. Keyboard warrior. Mana brani mau face to face.


One of the thing that puzzles me is the RB post. I am not sure on the rotation now. We started with O'Shea then Neville. Is Rafael injured or something?

Well,he certainly won't be gaining experience sitting on the bench 

I want to see Rafael or neville start at RB instead of JOS. Nevilles crossing will definitely come in handy when we play Berba and Rooney on top again.

Neville parts with armband
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6375469,00.html

Vidic for the team captaincy 

Fergie fears trio retirement
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6375225,00.html

LOL. Keyboard warrior. Mana brani mau face to face.

For someone who just only mentioned to not wanting to continue w the ongoing arguments, that's uncalled for.

I can understand why Sir Alex didn't want to rush Rafael in RB slot. The kid needs more experience and stiff competition with experience RB. The fact is that Rafael has a lot of talent but at the same time he always makes rash or 'rugby' tackles. It is better to let him play on odd games.

the kid is skinny right?need to bulk up more muscle 

Well,he certainly won't be gaining experience sitting on the bench 

I want to see Rafael or neville start at RB instead of JOS. Nevilles crossing will definitely come in handy when we play Berba and Rooney on top again.

Yes but he can play as sub or easier league or cup games. No harm done if JOS play. He is a decent RB with a lot experience. Sure he is slower and doesn't cross a lot but his positioning and knowing time to tackle. Therefore JOS is better choice. As for Gary , he is more reliable than JOS if he is fit which is rarely now.

Just hope Hargreaves comes back and he can fill RB slot against big teams. 

Neville parts with armband
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6375469,00.html

Vidic for the team captaincy 

Fergie fears trio retirement
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6375225,00.html

Rafael's mistake can be his room for improvement, but O'shea's mistake is  I rather take the risk. Since Neville is on the verge of retirement, it is time to find someone to step up to that position rather than trial and errors in the position just after Neville goes off. I say regular start for Rafael, and O'shea and Evra to rotate. Evra probably didnt need to rest, but we could save his best for europe travels.
Those crosses arent so easy to convert though, its usually high-arc and easily cleared by defenders. I can see Rafael learning from Neville to do fake forward runs, run forward just to fake the defenders. Rafael is probably more brave and takes his chances to tackle, although it might be a bad one 
How can he learn if he continue playing against small team. I bet the red card against Bayern thought him a big lesson. That is the type of experience Neville, Giggs, Scholes and beckham got during their young age huh.
Van der sar wont retire ryte? 

"We have no financial restrictions," he said. "If I hadn't been confident, maybe we would have done something, but there was only one player I would have brought here and that move was sealed off quite early by the club he went to.