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post Sep 14 2010, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 14 2010, 11:06 AM)
in soccernet, SAF said this:
do u guys have any idea who is that one guy he mentioned?
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I believe it's ozil smile.gif
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post Sep 14 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(redevil @ Sep 14 2010, 12:08 PM)
I believe it's ozil smile.gif
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i am not sure if it was really ozil since he joined RM quite the last moment, i was thinking if VDV but he as well came to spurs at the last moment. huntelaar? couldnt be.. could he actually mean villa or silva? hmm.gif
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post Sep 14 2010, 11:22 AM

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i also think it's ozil.. if vdv shouldnt be a prob since the guy himself admit in public he wanted to join MU..

but maybe it's Joe Cole? Liverpool got him quite early and unexpected right..

might be Villa as well.. barcelona was pretty fast to snap him from valencia.. and SAF showed his frustration and bought Bebe blindly..

(no offence on Bebe's fan, i'm not saying he is not good hehe.)

This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 14 2010, 11:24 AM
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:25 PM

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i think it's either villa, cole and silva. but my guts tell me it's silva...
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:35 PM

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wow..lotsa argument here sweat.gif
chilax everyone, still early to predict the winrar
but the last 3 minutes of the game was hell doh.gif
i tot saf gonna sub owen in and score late goals again tongue.gif
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(corez @ Sep 13 2010, 11:31 PM)
At least dia pernah join gathering banyak kali bila MUST buat live match viewing.

Jom join kalu nak, masa tu kita boleh discuss about our team face to face. Ada brani?

@Boxy, aku paham how you feels. Masa end of season 2010 ramai poster dah bash Berba kata dia dah tua lah buat rugi duit lah. Skrg sapa yang perform and top scorer Utd? I learn from my mistakes when I kutuk Fletcher many seasons ago. Thats why I keep saying give Berba some slack.

Skrg ni semua whining pasai draw 2 kali nih. Macam budak-budak bila mak tak kasi 2posen nak beli gula gula.
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Dude, you must understand there are reasons people are "bashing" him. It's not like we "bash" him for fun. At the end of the day, we all wish him to perform like what he's doing now, rite? And when people commented on him, it's based on what he did on the field. Miss pass, chances etc? Nothing wrong with that.

You learn from mistake when you kutuk Fletcher many seasons ago. How about giving the newbies a chance like what you had last time. nod.gif
I am not siding anyone, but let us be more sensible with our post. You don't force people to agree with you by mocking their post, calling them names or whatsoever. It's like adding petrol to the fire.

Peace. smile.gif
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post Sep 14 2010, 12:59 PM

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back to the Champions League game, what lineup/formation will you all think SAF will field?

gk : VDS
def : Rafael--Vidic--Evans--Evra
mid: Valencia--Fletcher--Gibson--Nani
str : Rooney--Berbatov

or will Ferdinand somehow manage to make it into starting XI?
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post Sep 14 2010, 01:05 PM

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I think Ferdinand is fit and good test for him against rangers. For Johnny Evans , just hope he manages to improve a lot better if Ferdinand get injured again smile.gif
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Sep 14 2010, 11:56 AM)
Nah, i don't agree with you because you got to understand that Rafael is still young and learning(20 years old) and the fact he is not homegrown footballer which a high risk for Sir Alex to start him regularly. Sure, I would love Rafael to start as many games as he can but the fact is he can't because he is a little prone injury (which is normal to youngster) and whether JOS, Neville or Brown is better than him (excluding pace and flair) in RB position.

You must also consider the fitness and physical ability (plus the nervousness of youngster) Rafael in the league especially against team such as Blackburn, Stoke or Bolton. Maybe this season is not ready for Rafael. He can still play the odd games against big team but certainly he is not ready to claim the spot for RB yet.

Sir Alex will introduce him slowly, believe me. He is still raw talent (young and learning).

Other fact is that Rafael can slowly progress to become better footballer instead of rushing him to the first team.

Prove it on the pitch and training , sure Sir Alex will make Rafael as regular RB for either next season or this season if all the RB is not available (and i'm not surprise if Sir Alex prefer fletch in RB if all other RB not available).

BTW, the games is changing ,the modern games is requires more tactical approach (which required better football's brain) and physical is getting tougher compare to the times of Neville, Beckham and others (and the fact they are from academy which makes Sir Alex will consider them to start as soon as possible if they are good enough to claim the spot)  tongue.gif
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he dont look nervous to me at all. In fact i can see that he appreciate every chance he get playing for the first team. making untiring runs. Since we are already exploited from our right side alrdy, why dont we give Rafael a try in bombardment? 20 is old enuf imo. ronaldo broke in like, 21? who knows we are luki enuf to build a cesc fabregas talent type of guy

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Can we just leave all this bickering to rest? We're beginning to look like Denis Wise. Before you know it, we'd be picking fights in empty houses.

QUOTE(irenic @ Sep 14 2010, 11:22 AM)
i also think it's ozil.. if vdv shouldnt be a prob since the guy himself admit in public he wanted to join MU..

but maybe it's Joe Cole? Liverpool got him quite early and unexpected right..

might be Villa as well.. barcelona was pretty fast to snap him from valencia.. and SAF showed his frustration and bought Bebe blindly..

(no offence on Bebe's fan, i'm not saying he is not good hehe.)
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Joe Cole wanted Man Utd at first, but we weren't interested.

I definitely do not believe SAF is the kind of person who lashes out by signing a player blindly. wink.gif

I believe that player is Ozil as well. Once Madrid came into the picture, we didn't really have a chance.

QUOTE(dlct87 @ Sep 14 2010, 12:59 PM)
back to the Champions League game, what lineup/formation will you all think SAF will field?

gk  : VDS
def : Rafael--Vidic--Evans--Evra
mid: Valencia--Fletcher--Gibson--Nani
str : Rooney--Berbatov

or will Ferdinand somehow manage to make it into starting XI?
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I would go for

vDS
O'Shea - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra
Valencia - Fletcher - Gibson - Nani
Rooney - Berbs

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post Sep 14 2010, 01:32 PM

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so it seems that Ferdinand is fit enough then...hope to see him in action later biggrin.gif

but why still a no for Rafael to start?
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post Sep 14 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 14 2010, 12:42 PM)
Dude, you must understand there are reasons people are "bashing" him. It's not like we "bash" him for fun. At the end of the day, we all wish him to perform like what he's doing now, rite? And when people commented on him, it's based on what he did on the field. Miss pass, chances etc? Nothing wrong with that.
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I remember Berbabashers simply want him out. Off with his head. Get out from United as so they say.
Because of inconsistent form for _ games in a row, who isn't pissed off? It's like signing Fernando Torres but he barely does tahi now. (woops)

Anyway I was a Berbabasher, I admit, I was frustrated to see him on the pitch. But now he's getting his classy form back. Maybe retiring from Bulgaria really did him some good.
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i just hope we wont drop some "careless" points anymore.. particularly today's match against Rangers (we're at home some more)
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Sep 14 2010, 01:11 PM)
he dont look nervous to me at all. In fact i can see that he appreciate every chance he get playing for the first team. making untiring runs. Since we are already exploited from our right side alrdy, why dont we give Rafael a try in bombardment? 20 is old enuf imo. ronaldo broke in like, 21? who knows we are luki enuf to build a cesc fabregas talent type of guy
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Of course he can makes untiring run but can you Sir Alex put faith for young Rafael to play every week and plus mid week this season. Certainly not in my book. The pressure for the young star is greatly increase and his fitness is not good enough to handle the capacity of fixture congestion in the future thus the development of Rafael might be harm.

Therefore why not use JOS right now as he is available. Please don't expect a young star can break through first team likes Ronaldo or Fabregas. He will gain experience later. Just patient his time will come.

As for Rangers game , i think Rafael can start as Rangers loves to defend like hell at OT. smile.gif
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Sep 14 2010, 01:52 PM)
Of course he can makes untiring run but can you Sir Alex put faith for young Rafael to play every week and plus mid week this season. Certainly not in my book. The pressure for the young star is greatly increase and his fitness is not good enough to handle the capacity of fixture congestion in the future thus the development of Rafael might be harm.

Therefore why not use JOS right now as he is available. Please don't expect a young star can break through first team likes Ronaldo or Fabregas. He will gain experience later. Just patient his time will come.

As for Rangers game , i think Rafael can start as Rangers loves to  defend like hell  at OT.  smile.gif
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not just fitness, his mentality is a factor as well i think...young lads are easily provoked by opponents tricks...maybe that is his problem at the moment
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Sep 14 2010, 01:44 PM)
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I remember Berbabashers simply want him out. Off with his head. Get out from United as so they say.
Because of inconsistent form for _ games in a row, who isn't pissed off? It's like signing Fernando Torres but he barely does tahi now. (woops)

Anyway I was a Berbabasher, I admit, I was frustrated to see him on the pitch. But now he's getting his classy form back. Maybe retiring from Bulgaria really did him some good.
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haha...exceptional few post, which really t*u kao him.

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http://www1.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Downl...66_DOWNLOAD.pdf


oops Rafael not available against Rangers tongue.gif
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QUOTE(legendofhafiz @ Sep 14 2010, 02:14 PM)
http://www1.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Downl...66_DOWNLOAD.pdf
oops Rafael not available against Rangers  tongue.gif
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oops... blush.gif
guess O'Shea will get the nod again
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Sep 14 2010, 02:06 PM)
haha...exceptional few post, which really t*u kao him.
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The prob is there are people whom defended Berba and provided explanations to support their claims. I did that. Wan did that. At some point, we just got tired.

Hence, the sarcasm. Unlike some keyboard warriors, whom have been wanting Berba to go out and wanted more prominent figures to come in as if that would confirm championship.

No prob to criticize playets when they play poorly but to resort to name callings and even worst wanting they to gtfo is really low. If the gaffer still says yes to them why are you doubting him?

He is watching the lads day to day and of course he knows best. Why the negativity?
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post Sep 14 2010, 03:12 PM

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Well, we are still unbeaten right? So what's the fuss?
Berbatop is our current top scorer tongue.gif

Hope to see Ferdinand tonight



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