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nill
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Jan 11 2013, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 11 2013, 07:52 AM) APU not for gaming. get any processor(without onboard video) + decent discrete graphics. So true. AMD must be crazy for not including GCN GPU cores into Trinity. If you buy a Trinity, it is an Intel I3 + HD6670 Radeon equivalent. Discrete GPU price drops after a year or 2. The better choice will be to invest with an I5 2nd hand and save money for the next gen gpu. This post has been edited by nill: Jan 11 2013, 01:38 PM
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ValityMental
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Jan 11 2013, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(nill @ Jan 11 2013, 01:33 PM) So true. AMD must be crazy for not including GCN GPU cores into Trinity. If you buy a Trinity, it is an Intel I3 + HD6670 Radeon equivalent. Discrete GPU price drops after a year or 2. The beter choice will be to invest with an I5 2nd hand and save money for the next gen gpu. But my current setup is I3-3220 only?  Since i have limited budget.
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nill
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Jan 11 2013, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 11 2013, 01:37 PM) But my current setup is I3-3220 only?  Since i have limited budget. whats your current gpu? budget? Price for high-end Trinity APUs starts at RM450. You can get decent 2nd hand price for gpus. Just remember not to exceed your psu rating.
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djlah
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Jan 11 2013, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(nill @ Jan 11 2013, 01:33 PM) So true. AMD must be crazy for not including GCN GPU cores into Trinity. If you buy a Trinity, it is an Intel I3 + HD6670 Radeon equivalent. Discrete GPU price drops after a year or 2. The better choice will be to invest with an I5 2nd hand and save money for the next gen gpu. that's right. APU is perfect for HTPC purpose only. mGPU much better performance then intel if compare only onboard video. intel HD3/4000 scuk... QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 11 2013, 01:37 PM) But my current setup is I3-3220 only?  Since i have limited budget. for gaming purpose only, you don't need very extreme high end processor upgrade. if you're in limited budget, keep your i3 and save all the money to get high end discrete graphics card. forget about APU, not really dirt cheap. share with us too, for your current pc full specs. see anything else need to upgrade. This post has been edited by djlah: Jan 11 2013, 01:47 PM
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nill
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Jan 11 2013, 01:53 PM
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ValityMental, is the I3 performance not enough except the iGPU?
you either sell ur I3 and mobo to get socket 1150 and Haswell CPU on May~June or just borrow a fren's gpu and run in your system. Maybe you only need a GPU upgrade?
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ValityMental
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Jan 11 2013, 01:55 PM
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I was planning to upgrade to i3-3220. Current PC Spec : 7 Years old PC +/- Motherboard : GA-M55SLI-S4 Processor : AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (2.0GHZ Stock clock / Stock HSF) Ram : 2GB Corsair Gaming Memory 800mhz GPU : Nvidia Geforce 7600 GS (SLI) Dual GPU PSU : Diablotek PHD Series 550W This was a beast years back, but now people called it rubbish.
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ValityMental
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Jan 11 2013, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(nill @ Jan 11 2013, 01:53 PM) ValityMental, is the I3 performance not enough except the iGPU? you either sell ur I3 and mobo to get socket 1150 and Haswell CPU on May~June or just borrow a fren's gpu and run in your system. Maybe you only need a GPU upgrade? Please read my latest post. Thanks for replying anyway
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ValityMental
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Jan 11 2013, 01:58 PM
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I got a extra Gigabyte GeForce 8500 GT Graphic card. Lol.
Currently got RM700 on hand to upgrade. My pc is now old and lagging. So might as well as change platform .
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nill
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Jan 11 2013, 02:00 PM
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Hint: Hide the system's age if you wanna resell.
You can always wait for price plummet for 1st gen I5. Quad cores will serve you better than dual hyper-threaded chips. I once got offered for RM800 for I7-860 + mobo Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3P. 2nd hand prices are a steal. Just secure at least one month personal warranty.
Sorry for going off topic, but this is still an AMD thread. Performance CPUs from AMD will not be released until 2014. Both Phenom II and Bulldozer will be phased out soon. Just wait for early adopters of Bulldozer to sell them for dirt cheap on Nov-Dec.
This post has been edited by nill: Jan 11 2013, 02:17 PM
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ValityMental
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Jan 11 2013, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(nill @ Jan 11 2013, 02:00 PM) Hint: Hide the system's age if you wanna resell. You can always wait for price plummet for 1st gen I5. Quad cores will serve you better than dual hyper-threaded chips. I once got offered for RM800 for I7-860 + mobo Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3P. Not gonna resell i guess, just update on Processor/Motherboard/Ram / GPU(In the near future) Roughly March to be done. I have RM700 on hand for Processor,Motherboard,Ram. P/S: I'm currently age of 16. So yeah, i uses my own money for upgrading because my family wouldn't get a new rig. So i guess that's the only choice. Hms. I usually do some light gaming on my pc. Mostly bowsering might as well as i want smooth user experience. That's why i asked for opinions. Any Suggestion?
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djlah
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Jan 11 2013, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 11 2013, 02:04 PM) Not gonna resell i guess, just update on Processor/Motherboard/Ram / GPU(In the near future) Roughly March to be done. I have RM700 on hand for Processor,Motherboard,Ram. P/S: I'm currently age of 16. So yeah, i uses my own money for upgrading because my family wouldn't get a new rig. So i guess that's the only choice. Hms. I usually do some light gaming on my pc. Mostly bowsering might as well as i want smooth user experience. That's why i asked for opinions. Any Suggestion?  if you already set up your mind to consider only i3-3220 or A8 5600K. still vote i3 for you as you mentioned for gaming purpose. but have to rely back on old GPU first as your current limited budget. i3-3220 RM378 Z77 socket 1155 mb RM308 - xxx rest of bal get pair of value ram. fit your current budget RM700. get new GPU in near future.
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ValityMental
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Jan 11 2013, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 11 2013, 02:19 PM) if you already set up your mind to consider only i3-3220 or A8 5600K. still vote i3 for you as you mentioned for gaming purpose. but have to rely back on old GPU first as your current limited budget. i3-3220 RM378 Z77 socket 1155 mb RM308 - xxx rest of bal get pair of value ram. fit your current budget RM700. get new GPU in near future. I see, thank you for the friendly reply. Might as well as go for Asus P8B75M-LX , Since i'm not going to overclock. But if i have slightly more money, yes i'll go for Z77 Chipset motherboard. The Cheapest i3-3220 i get in Kuching is RM409.
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djlah
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Jan 11 2013, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 11 2013, 02:31 PM) I see, thank you for the friendly reply. Might as well as go for Asus P8B75M-LX , Since i'm not going to overclock. But if i have slightly more money, yes i'll go for Z77 Chipset motherboard. The Cheapest i3-3220 i get in Kuching is RM409.  erm... maybe you can try PM some famous dealers here from our garage sales, to see Kuching retail cheaper or buy from them + postage fee?
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ValityMental
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Jan 11 2013, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 11 2013, 04:22 PM) erm... maybe you can try PM some famous dealers here from our garage sales, to see Kuching retail cheaper or buy from them + postage fee? After checked. Dealers here is cheaper , but what i'm concern about is the warranty problem, might be hard for me to post out again @@
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djlah
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Jan 11 2013, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 11 2013, 04:31 PM) After checked. Dealers here is cheaper , but what i'm concern about is the warranty problem, might be hard for me to post out again @@ all my pc items I bought online. processor and ram always no worries for me. anyway, if your preferred option is walking retail, then you're limit to that price only.
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nill
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Jan 11 2013, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 11 2013, 04:31 PM) After checked. Dealers here is cheaper , but what i'm concern about is the warranty problem, might be hard for me to post out again @@ QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 11 2013, 06:11 PM) all my pc items I bought online. processor and ram always no worries for me. anyway, if your preferred option is walking retail, then you're limit to that price only. CJcomp has plenty of used *Intel processor. Try them. They are not "K" series so it might still be ok. This post has been edited by nill: Jan 11 2013, 09:41 PM
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ValityMental
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Jan 12 2013, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(nill @ Jan 11 2013, 09:40 PM) CJcomp has plenty of used *Intel processor. Try them. They are not "K" series so it might still be ok. But some people claim that he take long time to post etc. Wondering is it working good?
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nill
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Jan 12 2013, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 12 2013, 10:36 AM) But some people claim that he take long time to post etc. Wondering is it working good?  sorry, i did not check the thread's buyer feed backs. Ask for black & white receipts if you feel insecure.
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djlah
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Jan 12 2013, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(ValityMental @ Jan 12 2013, 10:36 AM) But some people claim that he take long time to post etc. Wondering is it working good?  usually I avoids those new member, only buy from good reputation dealer or senior member with good records. if MOD/admin here even better.
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ValityMental
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Jan 12 2013, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(nill @ Jan 12 2013, 10:54 AM) sorry, i did not check the thread's buyer feed backs. Ask for black & white receipts if you feel insecure. Okay, will find senior and better sales feedback seller QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 12 2013, 11:08 AM) usually I avoids those new member, only buy from good reputation dealer or senior member with good records. if MOD/admin here even better. I'm scared too buying from new member . Will check out on GS
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