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post Jan 12 2013, 07:54 PM

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Guys.. watch this video review..

This video shows that all the benchmark for gaming on several popular sites are marketing gimmick that biased to Intel. Sadly for AMD.

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post Jan 13 2013, 04:59 PM

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I will upgrade my chip to Steamroller next year... To get more performance out of an upgrade tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2013, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(eadam @ Jan 12 2013, 07:54 PM)
Guys.. watch this video review..

This video shows that all the benchmark for gaming on several popular sites are marketing gimmick that biased to Intel. Sadly for AMD.
Here the video

youtube video- eu8Sekdb-IE

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Marketing gimmick? AMD had to cut prices by over 1/3 to tempt buyers because they suck.

The person in your youtube video was comparing the integrated graphics performance, which is not what a gamer would use. Seriously think about it, 36fps (8350) vs 21fps (3750) in Metro 2033 at 1080? He couldn't have been using a video card.

The Bulldozer/Piledriver models have been a big disappointment from AMD. And the way things are going AMD's cpu division is in serious jeopardy. And I'm saying this as a fan of AMD.
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post Jan 14 2013, 01:14 PM

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They are using graphic card. Read the description.
The reason the fps is lower is because its benchmarked with Xsplit, a software for streamer.
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post Jan 14 2013, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(imbibug @ Jan 14 2013, 11:58 AM)
Marketing gimmick? AMD had to cut prices by over 1/3 to tempt buyers because they suck.

The person in your youtube video was comparing the integrated graphics performance, which is not what a gamer would use. Seriously think about it, 36fps (8350) vs 21fps (3750) in Metro 2033 at 1080? He couldn't have been using a video card.

The Bulldozer/Piledriver models have been a big disappointment from AMD. And the way things are going AMD's cpu division is in serious jeopardy. And I'm saying this as a fan of AMD.
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No. They were using a video card. HD7870
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Jan 14 2013, 01:17 PM)
No. They were using a video card. HD7870
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Ok. Which makes it even more puzzling.
This review is probably the only one which shows metro/warhead being faster with the Piledriver. He made a mistake with the 3570-1080 in Warhead xsplit by saying 20-something when it was clearly showing 30-something (which is faster than the 8350 in his benchmarks). That and the abnormally low framerates leads me to believe that he either broke something in the setup or accidently benched the Intel cpus at higher resolutions.
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post Jan 16 2013, 11:15 AM

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AMD takes 28nm Kabini, Temash APU production to TSMC

Despite starting up as a joint venture in 2009, GlobalFoundries and AMD haven't had the best of relationships over the years, with the latter blaming 32nm manufacturing issues for lower-than-expected revenue in 2011. As problems persisted towards the end of that year news broke that AMD had cancelled two upcoming 28nm APUs -- Wichita and Krishna -- and would instead work on follow-up designs with TSMC.

The company has remained quiet regarding the switch, even after giving up the remaining of its 10% minority stake on the semiconductor foundry in March 2012 and swallowing a $320 million penalty for reducing their wafer purchase commitments. But now, according to ExtremeTech, AMD has let slip that Kabini and Temash are indeed being built at TSMC, with the struggling company expected to ship in Q2 of this year.

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AMD is billing these as the industry's first quad-core x86 system-on-chips. Kabini will take over AMD’s A4 and A6 brands and is designed to take on Intel on the ultra-thin notebook segment, with up to 50% more compute performance than current-generation Brazos 2.0 (marketed under the E Series). Temash replaces the Hondo-based Z-Series as AMD's tablet and hybrid APU with double the graphics performance.

ExtremeTech speculates that AMD's decision to market Kabini APUs under the A Series brand means the new chip is strong enough to close the gap with mainstream notebooks, though the latest roadmap suggests some variants will also carry the E Series denomination AMD used for budget notebooks and netbooks.

Despite moving production to TSMC, AMD is not breaking all ties with GlobalFoundries yet. In fact, their long term commitment to shifting its entire production to GlobalFoundries is reportedly unchanged, but the company had to buy itself some flexibility in sourcing its chips as its former partner ironed out production issues.

Source : http://www.techspot.com/news/51334-amd-tak...on-to-tsmc.html


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Kaveri will use FM2 socket?
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post Jan 17 2013, 05:21 PM

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Intel Haswell integrated graphics are on par with GeForce GT 650M



how about if compare with AMD APU?

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QUOTE(primaroti @ Jan 16 2013, 11:15 AM)
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thanks for sharing.

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based on roadmap above, will skip Richland and wait for Kaveri in 2014 then.... not worth for upgrade from Trinity to Richland.

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Kaveri will use FM2 socket?
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AMD Socket FM2 bear the Kaveri APU
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:55 PM

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Jaguar architecture looks real interesting to me. I been reading its capability for the past few months. I'm hoping some low power tablet or good ultrabook-like ultraportables comes out with it in it. Bobcat is a step up from Atom, but I had tested it before on ASUS laptop. It's not as fast as I wanted when in power saving mode. I hope Jaguar will fix this
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Any speculation on Steamroller price? If it's RM800++?
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post Jan 18 2013, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(nill @ Jan 18 2013, 01:49 PM)
Any speculation on Steamroller price? If it's RM800++?
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Wish it's 699 sad.gif
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post Jan 24 2013, 03:10 PM

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I wan to ask is it worth to change from fx6100 to either phenom 1100t or fx 8150.strictly for gaming
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post Jan 30 2013, 10:12 AM

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AMD's upcoming 'Richland' APU clock speeds detailed

With AMD's successor to Trinity already shipping to computer makers we’ve been hearing more and more details about the upcoming parts. Last week, Chinese website Expreview revealed the initial lineup for Richland on the desktop, and now VR-Zone is complementing that with the actual clock speeds for each model.

As previously reported, Richland APUs are essentially a tweaked version of Trinity, built using the same 32nm process and "Piledriver" CPU micro-architecture, but featuring higher clock speeds and tweaked graphics -- branded as 8000-series but they’re actually based on the same Radeon HD 6000-series foundation as Trinity’s.

If the published specifications are accurate, we’ll be seeing a 300MHz boost in base clock speed across the entire range, as well as 200-400MHz higher Turbo speeds over equivalent Trinity APUs and only a modest 37-84MHz bump in GPU frequencies. Despite this AMD has managed to maintain the same 65W and 100W TDPs present on Trinity. The initial lineup will consist of four quad core models and a couple of dual core chips.

Leading the pack is the A10-6800K featuring four cores clocked at 4.1GHz (4.4GHz Turbo), built in Radeon HD 8670D mobile graphics clocked at 844MHz and a 100W TDP. Next up the quad core A8-6600K maintains the 100W power rating and unlocked design but offers lower clock speeds at 3.9GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) while stepping down to Radeon HD 8570D integrated graphics. A couple of 65W quad-core variants will be available as the A10-6700 and A8-6500, equipped with HD 8670D and HD 8570D IGPs respectively, but featuring slightly lower clock speeds to keep power consumption down and locked ‘non-K’ designs.

Lastly, a couple of dual core APUs with 65W TDPs will be available in the form of the unlocked A6-6400K with HD 8470D integrated graphics and the A4-6300 featuring HD 8430D integrated graphics.

The new chips should hit the market in Q2 2013 and will be replaced later this year with the 28nm Kaveri APU.

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AMD Releases FX-4130 "Vishera" Quad-Core Processor

AMD introduced the FX-4130 value quad-core processor. Although slotted in the 4100 series, which suggests it being based on the older "Zambezi" silicon, the new FX-4130 is in fact based on the newer "Vishera" silicon, and the "Piledriver" micro-architecture. AMD is following a competitive (price-performance) approach to its CPU lineup, rather than a pure-performance one, and the FX-4130 is pitted by the company against the similarly priced Intel Core i3-2100.

The FX-4130 features four cores spread across two "Piledriver" modules, 3.80 GHz nominal clock speed with 3.90 GHz Turbo Core frequency, 2 MB L2 cache per module, 4 MB shared L3 cache, and an up to date instruction-set that includes AVX, AES-NI, SSE4.2, FMA, and XOP. Similarly priced Intel chips lack some of these instruction sets. With the FX-4130, AMD is packing a chunkier stock fan-heatsink than older FX-4000 series chips, which spins at lower speeds to keep the chip cool, and is hence less noisy. The new FX-4130 is priced at $99.99.

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post Jan 31 2013, 04:03 AM

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Can I get a recommendation?
Which is better, the FX-Series or go for the Phenom?
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post Jan 31 2013, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(primaroti @ Jan 30 2013, 10:12 AM)

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so the A10-6800K is just an overclocked 5800K? sweat.gif

and still cant pair with HD7000 series graphic cards..
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post Jan 31 2013, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jan 31 2013, 08:06 AM)
so the A10-6800K is just an overclocked 5800K? sweat.gif

and still cant pair with HD7000 series graphic cards..
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haih... Richland is just MLK version of Trinity doh.gif the real third gen APU is Kaveri.
so will skip A10-6800K since just overclocked of A10-5800K & still based on HD6000 as IGP.
wait for next year, Steamroller based, Kaveri.
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post Jan 31 2013, 07:42 PM

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Steamroller igpu better be gcn. If not I'm sticking to Llano or I will just downgrade to a 4g LTE integrated Intel Atom phone in 2014 drool.gif

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Phenoms are old tech and Piledriver is pretty sweet. Budget? Whats your current cpu? Whats the cpu for?

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post Jan 31 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(primaroti @ Jan 31 2013, 10:41 AM)

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The graphs looked impressive, until you examine the numbers. Not worth upgrading if you already own a FX-4100 or its equivalent.
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QUOTE(everling @ Jan 31 2013, 08:10 PM)
The graphs looked impressive, until you examine the numbers. Not worth upgrading if you already own a FX-4100 or its equivalent.
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yep but who want to try FX-4130 u can try buy it and can do some benchmark then post here... biggrin.gif

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