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post Nov 8 2011, 07:51 AM

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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=arti...ity_early&num=1
Seems like AMD finally cranked up with their Piledriver, but still far behind.
Clock to clock on par with first generation Core processor, anyway, a good start, as it will be clocked around 3.6GHz.

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post Nov 8 2011, 09:52 AM

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I think it need another 1GHz extra to complete with Sandy/Ivy bridge.
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post Nov 8 2011, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Nov 8 2011, 09:52 AM)
I think it need another 1GHz extra to complete with Sandy/Ivy bridge.
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Pretty much there.
But if AMD managed to get clock to clock on par with first gen Core, then high end Piledriver is somewhere near Sandy Bridge. hmm.gif
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post Nov 12 2011, 11:41 AM

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A taiwanese broke the WC twice using bulldozer within a week!
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post Nov 12 2011, 12:13 PM

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More juicy AMD Trinity details emerge

Up to 3.8GHz, over 4GHz with Turbo Core

A set of leaked AMD slides sheds some new light on upcoming Trinity APUs, including some rather impressive clocks, both in the CPU and GPU department.

Trinity is based on AMD’s new Bulldozer architecture, or Piledriver core to be precise, and it seems the new silicon is pretty forthcoming when it comes to high clocks. Slides indicate that Trinity clocks will range from 2.2GHz to a rather high 3.8GHz. What’s more, with Turbo Core the fastest variants will hit 4GHz and 4.1GHz. Bear in mind that these are engineering samples, so clocks in final production versions could be a bit different.

Graphics clocks are equally impressive. Even the slowest 2.2GHz Trinity features a 600MHz GPU. For comparison, the Llano flagship A8-3800 features 600MHz graphics. Trinity takes things a step further and the fastest models have 711MHz and 709MHz graphics. The higher clocks are only part of the story. Trinity is said to utilize the VLIW4 graphics architecture, based on AMD’s HD 6000 series GPUs, so clock-per-clock performance should also be better.

There’s been much speculation about Trinity’s performance versus current Llano parts, as FX-series Bulldozer parts delivered underwhelming results compared to ancient Thuban CPUs. However, depending on who you ask, Trinity should be 20 to 30 percent faster than Llano in terms of CPU performance, while graphics performance see a 30 percent boost over current Llano GPUs. TDPs remain largely unchanged, most parts are rated at 65W and 100W, but some high-end versions will have a pretty high 125W TDP.


http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/item/24...-details-emerge
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post Nov 13 2011, 09:52 AM

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AMD Trinity still use HD 6000 series GPU? not HD 7000 series GPU? shakehead.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(AlanSiew @ Nov 13 2011, 09:52 AM)
AMD Trinity still use HD 6000 series GPU? not HD 7000 series GPU? shakehead.gif
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Who cares as long as it has better clock to clock performance.
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post Nov 13 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Nov 13 2011, 10:47 AM)
Who cares as long as it has better clock to clock performance.
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I see, then when it will release? hmm.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Nov 8 2011, 09:52 AM)
I think it need another 1GHz extra to complete with Sandy/Ivy bridge.
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yeah thats right. it is JUST A NUMBER. they just show a number without any stress test, or any stability test. even my friend's grandmom can do that rclxms.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 09:15 AM

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AMD really has fallen way bck.....
imagine if sandy bridge doesn't hav graphic units, just pure processing.
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post Nov 14 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 14 2011, 09:15 AM)
AMD really has  fallen way bck.....
imagine if sandy bridge doesn't hav graphic units, just pure processing.
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Yup, take away that IGP, up the TDP to 125w, I can sure that Sandy bridge might clock higher than bulldozer.

I still cannot brain whats wrong with AMDdoing with Bulldozer, it is soo screwup that it is worthless to even think about buying it. Now Ivy bridge TDP is tuned down to 77w. Instead of giving more performance for the same TDP, Intel go energy economy on desktop. yawn.gif AMD is all ur fault!

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post Nov 14 2011, 01:28 PM

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im AMD fanboy..feel a bit disappointing for AMD haizz..
hopefully amd bulldozer will improve in next year sweat.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Economics Crisis @ Nov 14 2011, 01:28 PM)
im AMD fanboy..feel a bit disappointing for AMD haizz..
hopefully amd bulldozer will improve in next year  sweat.gif
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u hv to wait for enhanced BD. hmm.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Nov 14 2011, 09:15 AM)
AMD really has  fallen way bck.....
imagine if sandy bridge doesn't hav graphic units, just pure processing.
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dat would be Sandy bridge E... biggrin.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Nov 14 2011, 03:31 PM)
dat would be Sandy bridge E... biggrin.gif
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And that would also be Intel's version of Bulldozer.

IPCPC same as normal SB? Expected. More heat and power consumption than Bulldozer? Unexpected. (source)

I think I understand why AMD can price the FX-8150 that much now. They don't regard 2500K/2600K buyers as their real competition (although they should be).

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post Nov 14 2011, 05:58 PM

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Well.. that's how far the Bulldozer have to catch up.. not even near the i5 2500k.. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Nov 14 2011, 05:58 PM)
Well.. that's how far the Bulldozer have to catch up.. not even near the i5 2500k..  shocking.gif
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We already knew Bulldozer is miles behind in lightly threaded programs against SB.

What I'm actually disappointed now is it seems the 3960X also has many of the same flaws as the FX-8150: high heat, high power consumption and price not justifiable for many of us PC hardware enthusiasts.

I guess now the future is really between AMD A series APUs vs. Intel's socket 11xx processors. Hopefully AMD steps up to the game (and also make GPU-less processor chips at midrange price points).
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hmm.... from what I heard there is tons of flaws in the 1st few batch not until it released C2 stepping perhaps we will see improvement in those part. hmm.gif
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post Nov 15 2011, 03:45 AM

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AMD FM1 and FM2 sockets incompatible, Trinity needs a new board unsure.gif
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post Nov 15 2011, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Nov 14 2011, 05:58 PM)
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Well.. that's how far the Bulldozer have to catch up.. not even near the i5 2500k..  shocking.gif
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