QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Sep 2 2010, 11:38 PM)
HE MADE THE PEOPLE HAPPYEnglish Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Do Your Part, Save The Club!
English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2010, Do Your Part, Save The Club!
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Sep 3 2010, 10:27 AM
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Sep 3 2010, 12:24 PM
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Sep 3 2010, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Sep 2 2010, 06:22 PM) Back to our team. I'd be very happy if we can get back into the CL and quite elated if we manage to win something this season. One of my worries is Gerrard. He's been blowing hot and cold, and shows more interest wearing an England shirt than Liverpool's. honestly i dont blame him not if any real LFC player is getting tired or disillusioned by the the lies Liverpool have been dishing out of late.Come on RH, ... and come on you Reds! Happy birthday Shanks, We abandoned you before but didnt realise the true impact untill years later. Added on September 3, 2010, 1:47 pm QUOTE(Duke Red @ Sep 2 2010, 05:19 PM) You say you want to move away from the Masherano issue and yet you guys keep attacking him. I find it really disheartening that Liverpool fans adopt the guilty until proven innocent mentality. Makes us no different from other fans so please stop gloating and claiming that we are better or different. Masch is being crucified despite the real story not being known to us. He took a pay cut to join Barcelona so the situation obviously isn't as clear cut. Amidst all that has been said, he did say 1 poignant point, that Liverpool will always be in his heart. This tells me that it isn't the club he has an issue with, it's the management/board/new owners and if this is so who can blame him? We complan about the same thing each day, no? Purslow, Gillet, Hicks? +1If it's true he refused to play and moved for selfish reasons, then fairplay but is there any? You may ask me if there is proof to prove otherwise but I ask you again, is this how we should treat a player that gave no less than 100% whenever he was played? That we should assume the worst of him and not the best? Why should we "move on" from this issue anyway? It's current news no? Masherano throws his every bit into his liv games. he doesnt have to prove any thing to me. I love liverpool FC but I have also been disillusioned with the saga that some fans in Malaysia take in that everything is FINE & dandy with the club. WHat the boards or the officials says is god like statement. I know nothing is what it seems but I trust the body language/players not playsing for us or where the standing (LFC) lies is truly quite reflective of how things have gone so wrong. SO go ahead some of you in believing we are still a steady ship (you probably can tell I dont feel the same sentiments). YNWA can be a double edge sword to some, some can used that to their means. I love liverpool FC, however i wont standby injustice will voice out at times. LFC never always got it right. back then the LFc board relieved shankly of his managers post. did they get it right? they certainly thought so. only years later we celebrated what Bill Shankly did for LFC, but Shankly was never the same again. His heart was forever with LFc. This post has been edited by koolspyda: Sep 3 2010, 01:49 PM |
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Sep 3 2010, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Sep 3 2010, 01:30 PM) I love liverpool FC, however i wont standby injustice will voice out at times. LFC never always got it right. back then the LFc board relieved shankly of his managers post. did they get it right? they certainly thought so. only years later we celebrated what Bill Shankly did for LFC, but Shankly was never the same again. His heart was forever with LFc. I'm sorry if I'm wrong |
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Sep 3 2010, 06:21 PM
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will carra's testimonial match be shown on astro?haha..thx for the reply....cheers
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Sep 3 2010, 06:31 PM
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Carragher urges Liverpool fans to lay off Owen
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Soccernet Source Houllier interviewed for Villa job » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Soccernet Source --- Still finding it hard to forgive Owen despite the years gone, but nevertheless it is a charity game - I don't think people should be booing in such events. |
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Sep 3 2010, 07:14 PM
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There, I was wondering why some people are so forgiving when it comes to Masch yet they cant do the same for Owen.Yes, no doubt Owen left us when we needed him and he had joined manu to make things worse but he did contribute a lot to the club, no? Masch left us when we need him too.He badmouthed the club after he left.What makes him better than Owen?I cant find an answer why a certain group of people can forgive masch and not Owen.
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Sep 3 2010, 08:11 PM
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Why Owen left Liverpool for Real Madrid ? I'm an Owen supporter myself but I was still young back in the days when Owen is still playing for us. Not so good in digging news that time
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Sep 3 2010, 08:22 PM
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safe to say that, owen was bred from youth was promoted n became star for the team, he what the team n fans relied on, scoring goals,,when houliier departed, n came benitez, we hav arguebly, promising forwards,,cisse, baros, n owen,,everybody expected a good season, the fans was eager for the season to starts,,n guess what, out of nowhere, owen left the club n went to madrid..
mascherano really a nobody to be honest, he came to bpl as a sub player during his days wit west ham,,mayb rafa did him a huge favor by signing him n make him a regular,,but his desired to leave wasnt a secret at all, he said it several times that his family wasnt happy plus he earn arguably the lowest paycheck for his talent n u know with all his problem, he's bound to leave the club, n he did.. |
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Sep 3 2010, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 3 2010, 07:14 PM) There, I was wondering why some people are so forgiving when it comes to Masch yet they cant do the same for Owen.Yes, no doubt Owen left us when we needed him and he had joined manu to make things worse but he did contribute a lot to the club, no? Masch left us when we need him too.He badmouthed the club after he left.What makes him better than Owen?I cant find an answer why a certain group of people can forgive masch and not Owen. Me and frens particularly dislike Michael Owen since he moved to ManU. We started off our craze for football during Michael Owen's days , when he still has the nick of wonderkid, let's just say that he's basically our childhood hero. It took a lot of time accept the fact that someone like Michael Owen ( which we take him for a rational and humble person ) to join ManU, it's like ur watching ur childhood hero turning into ur enemy. |
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Sep 3 2010, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ Sep 2 2010, 10:31 PM) QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 3 2010, 07:14 PM) There, I was wondering why some people are so forgiving when it comes to Masch yet they cant do the same for Owen.Yes, no doubt Owen left us when we needed him and he had joined manu to make things worse but he did contribute a lot to the club, no? Masch left us when we need him too.He badmouthed the club after he left.What makes him better than Owen?I cant find an answer why a certain group of people can forgive masch and not Owen. QUOTE(MariMo @ Sep 3 2010, 08:34 PM) Me and frens particularly dislike Michael Owen since he moved to ManU. We started off our craze for football during Michael Owen's days , when he still has the nick of wonderkid, let's just say that he's basically our childhood hero. TBH, I don't really hate any players except C Ronaldo. Not because he is a ManU, but because of his disgusting arrogance and trickery. Although I support Liverpool, but I do like some players in ManU like Rooney and Berbatov. I actually only hates some bunch of pathetic fans who never stops to boast and insult others, and tat's why I love Liverpool. The fans are very passionate but yet never loses themselves and shows respect to others (majority). It took a lot of time accept the fact that someone like Michael Owen ( which we take him for a rational and humble person ) to join ManU, it's like ur watching ur childhood hero turning into ur enemy. |
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Sep 3 2010, 09:11 PM
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for me in general, i kind of very upset seen him left for madrid,,but on contrary, i didnt mind seeing him playing for man u , there wasnt much left in him, so he wants to end his career with a league or 2 plus we also been given chance to sign him back which we declined, so option for him to choose club after that really shouldnt be our concern anymore..
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Sep 3 2010, 09:27 PM
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guys,
can sumone enlighten me about carra's testimonial match?what is it about anyway?? |
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Sep 3 2010, 09:51 PM
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Sep 4 2010, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 3 2010, 07:14 PM) There, I was wondering why some people are so forgiving when it comes to Masch yet they cant do the same for Owen.Yes, no doubt Owen left us when we needed him and he had joined manu to make things worse but he did contribute a lot to the club, no? Masch left us when we need him too.He badmouthed the club after he left.What makes him better than Owen?I cant find an answer why a certain group of people can forgive masch and not Owen. 1) owen leave for $8,masc for $18...$10 million difference 2) i still remember clearly, owen say he will stay and sign new contract...next i know, he left us for RM. we all already know masc wanted to leave since last yr 3) owen leave us because of what again, oh i remember...to win more trophy. what he do next, join newscastle masc deny it was family reason, i hugely doubt it. how can one seperate from their own family for so long. he shouldn't badmouth liverpool now that he achieve what he wanted now. 4) the last thing liverpool fans want, is him to join MU. well, he certainly cemented a place in liverpool fans heart now..as a judas for masc, i think most fans still 50-50. we wont know what happen in the future, but for sure now i wont respect masc as what it used to be |
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Sep 4 2010, 02:29 AM
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 3 2010, 07:14 PM) There, I was wondering why some people are so forgiving when it comes to Masch yet they cant do the same for Owen.Yes, no doubt Owen left us when we needed him and he had joined manu to make things worse but he did contribute a lot to the club, no? Masch left us when we need him too.He badmouthed the club after he left.What makes him better than Owen?I cant find an answer why a certain group of people can forgive masch and not Owen. Owen left us no bargaining chip (as he's running out of contract). He left for RM at such dirt cheap disgraced price (8 million?? Yuck, it's disgusting). We did not expect him to leave. We thought he was Liverpool man (like Carragher & Gerrard). Fans saw him like "Torres". The worst part is, he went to RM as a bench-warmer. What an insult??!! A Liverpool home grown "Torres" joined RM as bench-warmer??? The worst NIAMAH insult is, there was no place for him in RM. The "Phenomenon" Ronaldo (39 million) and the "evergreen" Raul were always in the starting lineup. They were much better in terms of ball control & finishing skills (than the traitor). He couldn't play as 2nd striker as well, as RM had Z.Zidane (world record transfer, 75 million) and L.Figo (world record transfer, 37 million). He obviously didn't have the skills like Zidane and Figo. So, what was he doing in RM? Licking bench? Typical "Judas". As for Mascherano, we know he can fetch reasonable price . We know he has a high possibility of leaving Liverpool. We see it coming since last season. Situation got worst since Rafa left. And our team becomes "mid-table" team. We see that (our stars leaving) coming too. We expected it. So, no surprise. Mascherano expressed explicitly that he is leaving (unlike the "Judas"). Secondly, who with the right mind would turn down the offer from Barcelona? Especially after "Barcelona" won the World Cup 2010. He's leaving for Barcelona. A dream come true. Fully understandable & acceptable. With his ability, he can be an anchor in Barcelona's defense. He knows he is going to be starting lineup. Barcelona know he will greatly strengthen the team's midfield/defense. Last but not least, Mascherano should adapt well in Barcelona - as he speaks spanish. You can't find the answer? I believe you are well aware of above points. Try open your eyes and you'll see it. Added on September 4, 2010, 2:58 am QUOTE(kaki_busuk @ Sep 3 2010, 06:31 PM) Houllier interviewed for Villa job I find it interesting. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Soccernet Source Glad to see Gerard Houllier back to managing EPL team. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 4 2010, 02:58 AM |
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Sep 4 2010, 02:29 AM) Owen left us no bargaining chip (as he's running out of contract). He left for RM at such dirt cheap disgraced price (8 million?? Yuck, it's disgusting). My point is quite simple, why people tend to forget what Owen contributed to the club.Yet, they paid tribute to what Masch had contributed. Quite simply, the former contributed more than Masch did, no?We did not expect him to leave. We thought he was Liverpool man (like Carragher & Gerrard). Fans saw him like "Torres". The worst part is, he went to RM as a bench-warmer. What an insult??!! A Liverpool home grown "Torres" joined RM as bench-warmer??? The worst NIAMAH insult is, there was no place for him in RM. The "Phenomenon" Ronaldo (39 million) and the "evergreen" Raul were always in the starting lineup. They were much better in terms of ball control & finishing skills (than the traitor). He couldn't play as 2nd striker as well, as RM had Z.Zidane (world record transfer, 75 million) and L.Figo (world record transfer, 37 million). He obviously didn't have the skills like Zidane and Figo. So, what was he doing in RM? Licking bench? Typical "Judas". As for Mascherano, we know he can fetch reasonable price . We know he has a high possibility of leaving Liverpool. We see it coming since last season. Situation got worst since Rafa left. And our team becomes "mid-table" team. We see that (our stars leaving) coming too. We expected it. So, no surprise. Mascherano expressed explicitly that he is leaving (unlike the "Judas"). Secondly, who with the right mind would turn down the offer from Barcelona? Especially after "Barcelona" won the World Cup 2010. He's leaving for Barcelona. A dream come true. Fully understandable & acceptable. With his ability, he can be an anchor in Barcelona's defense. He knows he is going to be starting lineup. Barcelona know he will greatly strengthen the team's midfield/defense. Last but not least, Mascherano should adapt well in Barcelona - as he speaks spanish. You can't find the answer? I believe you are well aware of above points. Try open your eyes and you'll see it. Added on September 4, 2010, 2:58 am I find it interesting. Glad to see Gerard Houllier back to managing EPL team. I cant accept what you said that Masch move was a dream come true, thus acceptable.It could be the same for Owen.It was a dream move for him.So, what was so wrong with that? Owen went there to sit on bench, who can be sure that Masch isn't going to? With Xavi, Iniesta, Busquet, I seriously wonder where and how the hell Masch going to be regular starting 11. What I am asking now is that, if you can treat Masch like Hero, why not Owen? He joined manu to save his chances to the world cup, acceptable, no?For his age, for his injury record, a club of manu caliber came knocking, I would be surprised if he rejected it. Owen contributed as much as(if not more) Masch did.If Masch should not get bashing, same goes to Owen. |
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Sep 4 2010, 03:30 AM
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Torres scored yo...
Hope he'll continue the form.. Oh and huppia red carded.. Dats rare torres is on fire!! New boy meireles also scored!! Cant wait for his liv debut... Woot!! This post has been edited by mamet: Sep 4 2010, 04:34 AM |
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Sep 4 2010, 03:31 AM
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 4 2010, 03:12 AM) My point is quite simple, why people tend to forget what Owen contributed to the club.Yet, they paid tribute to what Masch had contributed. Quite simply, the former contributed more than Masch did, no? No one forgets what Owen contributed. I cant accept what you said that Masch move was a dream come true, thus acceptable.It could be the same for Owen.It was a dream move for him.So, what was so wrong with that? Owen went there to sit on bench, who can be sure that Masch isn't going to? With Xavi, Iniesta, Busquet, I seriously wonder where and how the hell Masch going to be regular starting 11. What I am asking now is that, if you can treat Masch like Hero, why not Owen? He joined manu to save his chances to the world cup, acceptable, no?For his age, for his injury record, a club of manu caliber came knocking, I would be surprised if he rejected it. Owen contributed as much as(if not more) Masch did.If Masch should not get bashing, same goes to Owen. Why I can accept the reason Mascherano left for Barcelona? I have told you. Open your eyes and read again. Why I see Owen as a traitor joining RM? I have told you too. Read again. I just want to touch on "dream comes true". It is Barcelona we are dealing with. I rate them as the top football club in the world. Look at the Barcelona boys played during World Cup and you know how good they are. Remember the captain of Arsenal, Fabregas, wore the Barcelona jersey? You know how reputable they are after world cup '10. With Mascherano's ability, we know Mascherano has alot to give at Barcelona. There are rooms for his contribution. What the heck Owen was doing in Real Madrid? Ronaldo, Raul, Zidane and Figo are all ahead of him in terms of skills and names at the time. These big names were the lethal attacking force at RM & RM paid world-record transfer fees for these big names. How much RM paid for Owen? What dream did he want to achieve at RM? There were no rooms for his contribution at RM. Still no convinced? See how Owen fled RM after 1 season and you'll know he contributed nothing there. Open your eyes and see. P/S I don't feel bad Owen joined both Newcastle & ManU 'cos I see him like "traitor" since he joined RM. He could have joined Liverpool after RM & Newcastle. Again and again, he's showed to us all that he is NOT Liverpool man afterall. No one forgets his contribution but his past contribution is not relevant any more. P/S RM sold Owen to Newcastle for 12 million. 50% more than RM paid to Liverpool. A bench-warmer that worth 12 million. Liverpool was forced to sell her home-grown "Torres" for 8 million. Yuck, this is disgusting. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Sep 4 2010, 10:03 AM |
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Sep 4 2010, 04:57 AM
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For whatever reasons, it's an insult.. what Michael did. Masch did the same horrible thing, forcing the club to sell him, refused to play a game, using his family as an excuse (making people to feel sympathized for him) and making the club looks bad with his latest statement. Unless we start winning trophies, we'll see more of this in the future.. it's important for every player and more importantly for a very highly rated player to retire with lot of medals and trophies... it's hard to find another Carra nowadays.
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