yes.. bios 17 the best fo now.. X2, FX and 64 logos show since bios 15... fries ! what board that u use ?? AN8 sli ??

Nope. Vanilla AN8. My Specs (Again):

Venice 3000+
2*512 Apacer RAM 2.5-4-4-8
ABIT AN8
Coolermaster 430W Power
80GB HDD Maxtor
16X DVD Drive

Anything else?

I tried to flash and reflash for the last 2 days. Found out, my setup is stable using 12 and 13. Don't have 14 and 15 to try with. With 16 and 17, problems arise. Most significant is the FanEQ settings in BIOS. Supposedly, in 12 and 13, in FanEQ2 page, we'll have OTES1, OTES2 and AUX. But in 16 and 17, right after flashing I can see AUX, OTES1, OTES2. But if I save the settings, it'll be AUX only left. The 2 OTES fans settings are gone.

Now, I don't know what is happening. I'm beginning to suspect my processor and ram as the culprit. If there is someone who can lend me their processor and ram, then I think I can check which one is wrong.

sorry to beg a pardon,
but on what basis that u decided to quote as such??? if by reading i'm sorry to say practically it is not...due the no fine tuning i can bet ya that overclocking will be a problems on such boards...

first of u can really overclocked till the edge because of the unavailabilty to tweaks as much...so only max overclock can be achieved inside Windows only...this is not the kind of overclocking i and (maybe you) wants....the ability to be overclocked through bios then with juz a press of a button (power button) all the power u need are available right on the spot....unlike if u have to go to windows first then only up the HTT to achieve certain speed...


but users with X2 and WD bugs cant use that bios am i right???

irenic,
as u you know...and u should know by now commonly nF4 939 boards are supporting X2...but the issue is not supports or not...either it is good or not...thats a diffrent story....u should browse around b4 u


good for you 17 works...but mostly ppl will adore 16 and i also b4 i sold my board i was putting 16 as the bios...

abit cheap, pretty, nice led, 4 phase power, oc stable, nice uguru software, 100% Japanese capasitor, 1st board with softmenu oc technologies, 1st company using OTES design,
1st board using cooper chipset cooling,
1st 3rd EYE OC technologies (no others can) <-- more than enough and cheap too...
new panel guru direct reset cmos from casing front side...
audio max sound card off the board with nice red led...
using digital optical sound output... (real optical)
oc stable means use pc more than stay in front pc oc oc oc and crash..

Hardocp....
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NzE3LDc=
Once again we saw a DFI motherboard fail when it comes to long-term stress testing. By "long-term," we mean in excess of 24 hours. While most of the latest heavy hitters from the likes of ABIT, ASUS, and MSI will literally run error free for days under 100% load


DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-D
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/revie...mlld19JRD0xMDA5
You can see a three-phase power delivery circuit next
( Answer for those argue with me about 3 phase of DFI )

hope DFI can upgrade their board for more stability... maybe tommorow i'll buy...


This post has been edited by cyberloner: Sep 19 2005, 01:09 PM


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Hardocp Quotes
as far as i can read...the above quotes it kudos to DFI...

Hexus Quote
Comparing two of the diffrent worlds motherboard...i dun blame em...its their job...but WTH is Asus in this story...Its no no Abit story in there....

This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Sep 19 2005, 02:27 PM

i think we shouldnt talk about DFI / Asus / MSI etc.. in this forum. Just talk about Abit ok. It's sick when people keep comparing this board with DFI. Esp in overclocking. Every overclockers on this earth know DFI is the best. But how many among them are only use their pc for overclocking?

Dont forget that DFI also have cold boot problem, 4 leds of death, etc.. If u never experience it, u will keep saying DFI is the best. I was the same, until that problem occured. It was so sucky coz i need up to 2hrs to switch on my pc. If u do browsing, quite a lot people experienced it.. and most of them decided to try other board like Abit or Asus.

& dont forget that DFI is among the 1st mobo to have all those settings in bios. before this all of us use windows based software to tweak & oc more..

To make all DFI fan happy, once again i stress that DFI is the best board for overclocking.. No other board can get near DFI in it. but DFI is not the best in stability.

However, let say if u must choose one problem for ur mobo, which one u prefer?.. Lost the otes fan setting or have difficulty to switch on ur pc every time u shut down it?

My conclusion is all board have its pros n cons. Choose the best for u. Like me, this Abit isnt so great for my superb Sandy so that is one the reason i wanna sell the sandy and get the X2.. stimes i think to buy DFI again but when i remember back those 4 leds of death.. i feel phobia hahah

thats why my question was "is this board Good & Stable for amd64 x2?"

i did browse around and i can find both positive & negative results. It just not happen to Abit an8 but also to DFI mobo. I think if i not overclock this x2, abit mobo will run great .. what do u think?

This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 03:53 PM

i dun like cool boot....
oc high high... turn off pc...
turn on again.. cannot boot... =X

I Dun Think....I Test It Myself..

Btw the issue regarding X2 is everywhere lah...not even DFI is perfect..but when i come to stability even the Intel OEM board is a rock...but when some party give a quote like:

"Abit good in overclock, Abit very stable"

now to me that sucks...just because u read somewhere doesnt mean it is true. Did u test the stuffs ur self..Remember alwiz that reviews are not 100% accurate.. Reviewers tend to be bias or paid to be. This is why i never read reviews and trash it directly to LYN like some ppl do...

ok back to ur question ...to me if u already planned to buy Abit an8 go ahead...since ur not overclocking what...Juz like a two door beemer...buy it, enjoy it, brag about it, and in the end u Bring More Women ....Unlike a skyline, where u can get 700HP and blast the Beemer away but what for right????

So get ur beemer ...what are you waiting for..??? ....I stick with my 700HP Skyline RB26 with twin 3450GT's.....Hahahhahaha

BTW bape nak jual Sandy 3700+???

This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Sep 19 2005, 04:10 PM

i am using abit an8 sli

if u want to know the story, here it goes.. last time i was a very happy n proud owner of DFI lanparty SLI D. It was a great board, combined with my san diego + OCZ rev2 tccd, i can say it was really really rocks!
then a few months later, somewhere in July, the cold boot problem started to occur. Thx god that there was so easy to seek for help with this board, since most of the top forums all over the world were discussing bout this board. I manage to overcome the problem whenever it occured. I was happy until the cold boot problem occured again but was more serious than usual. This time all the 4 leds were blinking. I browsed the XS forum and managed to find a way on how to solve the problem, called the 4 Led's of death..
I followed their suggestion but normally i can only boot my pc after an hour. stimes it took more than 1 hr. I started to feel sick.. Then one morning when i was in rush to finish my assignment, my pc (i stayed in hostel, so ol 24/7) quite laggy due to many applications in background. so i restarted it. But somehow i accidentally clicked on the shut down button. Then i cant get my pc on for almost one day
The next day, i found myself in Alphamatic systems in puchong to claim a new board ( luckily DFI gives 1 to 1 warranty ) . back to my place, i manage to switch on my pc without any problem and then i live happily ever after..
opps it still not the end yet.. then at the evening, the problem occured again! I feel fed up so the next day i changed to a new board again n straight away put it on sale in garage sell ( i sold a new one, and not the one that has the 4 leds of death )
Then i used my intel rig coz at that time i was so stupid to think that i can wait for crossfire board haha.. but after a week or two, i decided to buy this abit an8 series.. and since then i yet to miss my assignment anymore

that is my story. Mixed experienced with a board named DFI lanparty SLI D

Like old folks say, biar lambat asal selamat.. cant oc kaw kaw is ok, as long as i my pc wont have problem in such a critical time~

p/s - sorry for a long & boring essay. I'm not so good in writing

This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 05:01 PM

well very kinda sad story...glad ur moving on quite nicely...

but well...the moral of your story is no pain no gain... due to our lust for more power we alwiz tends to forget that there is no easy way...either we fall now or later...the same for computers....either we crash now or crash later it is part of the cycle...we cant have both...we have to compromise...hearing u telling about ur bad relations with the SLI-D gave me an idea that surely u didnt compromise....

Juz imagine if u would run the same settings on a new mobo (whatever and not DFI) and the mobo didnt broke down or get burnt in 3 years time that surely will make u a happy man...

I think i should post a quote in the overclockers united something like this:

"did u think a 3000+ and an FX 57 were priced because of the speed or the ability"

hahahaha....

ok now back to topic....

the AN8 will be compatible with the X2 via flashing new bios...and which bios issit i cant clearly remember...maybe 17 i guess...but irenic b4 u go buy straight away why not browse for the KN8....looks promising....

if u want the king of stability why not try Gigabyte for a change????

there is thing we can compromise n there is thing we cant.. When i decided to sell my DFI, i know i wont find any other great overclocking board like DFI. Then i choose abit due to no major problem with that board. I think that's a compromise. I lose speed for stability. I choose what is best for me, not for others. As a student who enjoys overclocking, but in the same time use the same pc for works n games, I need a very stable mobo with can do respectable clockspeed. This is what Abit manage to offers me. If u see my 3dmark records, and my highest bootable clockspeed for my sandy, i manage to break my own record set by DFI with this <quite crap in oc?> Abit Fatal1ty An8 SLI...

It's not just me, but everyone will be happy if the mobo never ever give them any single problem. Or u like to have problem ?
and fyi, i never used my stuffs (except harddisk & psu) more than 6 months
so i cant imagine to use a mobo for 3 yrs haha. I'm happy to change to new stuffs, coz i can start all over again.. learning sthing new everyday...

i read in the internet and most of them are using bios 17.. looks ok with some minor problem..
Gigabyte? i need good stable board with quite a good oc ability. I think Abit has the balance between these two..
It would be great if DFI & Abit engineers can combine together to produce a new motherboard.. But it will never happen..

wahlaweehh...

change hardware every six months.... one level i cant follow now...


Gigabyte is ok...no big issues...slightly better than MSI i would say...but nevertherless no match for DFI (or even ABIT maybe? )

ehhehe...then we have nothing more to debate right????

2nd attempt.. pic attached::

240htt, 1.4vcore (bios), 1:1, 4x ldt

using bios 17.

my 1st attempt was 2.4ghz @ 1.35vcore (bios) but the 2nd core failed after 2hrs 32mins..



This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 19 2005, 08:33 PM

Manchester new cpu?
not san diego?

I think guys, let's stick back to the main topic. I know Antonio is a hardcore overclocker who will stop at nothing to get that extra pico second at superpi or getting that little more fraction of HTT. So, the DFI board must be a god-sent gift for him.

However, true to the topic of the thread, this is all about Abit board and how users of Abit Fatality could give and share the opinion based on their usage.

Personally, I've not tried DFI for the very obvious reason that I am a cheap ******* who doesn't believe is spending double for that extra speed or tight timings that TCCD or TCC5 chips can achieve. Therefore, I am using a cheap KVR D43 from the days of socket 478. So far, this Abit board has been a great workhorse, no issues and is reasonably fast.

For my primary usage which is gaming, I find that overclocking the rig to the max might not be such a good idea. I need stability when I am fragging someone; the last thing I want is a reboot during my gaming session of BF2. I'd rather spend some money on getting a better VGA and get high frame rates. I've come to notice that it doesn't make much practical gaming difference when I am running my A64 at 2.4ghz or 2.7ghz except during benchmarks; which aren't real games in itself. I also use this rig to surf the net to check forums and to learn more new things in the overclocking and computer world. I'm sure Irenic shares my sentiment.

So, like what I said in my earlier thread; beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. Let's stop this topic about DFI is a better overclocking board as no one here denies that. Peace.

THE MASTER HAS SPOKEN

I have no intention what so ever to bring down Abit to the ground. I also am no Diamond Flower International staff nor affliates....I'm just some guy which happends likes what i do. And no intention to develop the hatred towards Abit. Even last time while the NF-7 was out i even dun have the cash to buy my dream mobo. But that was then, this is now. Looking back aint bringing us no where, apart from receiving problematics failure which resulted our waste of time, energy or even cash.

Abit is one of respectable player in this business. Hell if i'd have the opportunity to work with them closely i'd packed my bag and straight away go. But the fact of the matter is that we are discussing about the abit Fatal1ty AN8 for AMD 64bit topic which i think a place where Abit Fatality owners such as you guys (or even me) talk and discuss about our problem regarding the board. But if you see clearly the Abit Forum which is i see is a mess. With no support and tons and tons of problems realy looks like Abit is not making a good job maintaining its reputation as a Company..

Back to topic....

As i was stressing out the Fatality boards has the pros and cons. I did came in here stroming about the greatness of DFI and that i appologies i it did make you Fatalities & Vanilla user offended. But i wanna ask you one question. What is it gives u the right to crash my statements? Just because you owned an Abit board. Didnt you notice i to owned the Fatality SLI not long ago. So i should have the rights right? And my comparison with the DFI is not of the prejudice feelings i had for the Fatality board or even Abit. I was telling everybody about the normal scenario of the board itself. Like DFI i also adore this board of its functions and pakages which is quite reasonable for a RM750 board. But when capabilities are concerned it just my two cents thinkin that this board should be sold even lower priced.

I'm no Abit GURU and so do you...So lets talk and discuss rather than trying to bring down other companies boards as a fact of the matter is much better than what we are trying to standout for. Stop talking and show results braddar.

Not much results to show except that I am happy that my Winchester can prime stably at 10.5 x 250HTT @ 1T. Not much to boast but it's stable and reasonably fast.

bro how come u run on 10.5 dividers???no problems or what so ever occur????

No issues so far. What kind of problems do you anticipate?

mostly the instability from the CPU itself...it will run either to the rams resulting in an unstable situation for the rams...and windows usually locks up...i am going far from 0.5 multipliers avoid it while i still can...