smart buyer.

BTW: why dfi so problematic with valueram?

I don't know the answers to this question since I'm not Oskar Wu nor I'm electronic engineer. But I'm guessing that, it's the way they write BIOSes for those board. It tends to cater those of high performance series. So by default, everything stock is already stressed out hence causing problems for some Value RAM. But anyhow, the best method of solving this is by BIOS update and initial booting with only single dimm slot occupied. After that everything is to be set manually to avoid unnecessary stressing of the RAM. Well, I might be wrong and I really hope for someone who knows the right answer to step forward and clarify.

Sound Card - Creative X-Fi if you could afford it. Otherwise, on board Abit mobo will do.
that line have problem...

Nforce have problem with X-FI

DFI cannot use Kingston Value ar?

Kind enough to provide a link for us all to learn?

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/bo...scending&page=1

yeah read all as u can

Like Pccrazy said before, DFI board is already optimized for high performance ram so they can run to their max.. As a result, el cheapo ram aka value ram cant handle the stress resulting instability..



This post has been edited by irenic: Sep 12 2005, 10:58 AM

i wanted to disable the OTES but menu gone...how to disable then??? hahahah..other problem factors of the mobo is the way it tend to not boot after a high overclock...it alwiz want to be discharge fully around 1 hour to boot up again...-sigh-

but i like the LED tho...it makes at nite easier to 'see'

Get an Abit then, it automatically resets the clocks and reboots whenever I overclocked it too high; whether it is memory timings or HTT. Heheh.

That's exactly the reason why I dun like DFI; I had very bad experience after flashing the bios of the 875P-T; where the mobo just died on me. RMA took me three months and still haven't received the board back... sighhhhhh.

With my current Abit : If my oc not stable, it will shut down during win xp loading. but after that i still manage to switch on my pc normally without has to reset cmos.

With my previous DFI SLI D : It will shut down or wont boot at all. then i have to press & hold Delete button while switch on my pc. Dun have to reset cmos also.

I admit that i do miss DFI board, due to its performance.. But this Abit is a better board for me coz it has balance between stability and performance Less headache~!!

yes u r right... if u dont OC.. abit perform much better than dfi.. and when u OC.. dfi much higher..

*my abit also i must reset cmos if i manage oc too high....

in other words.."Senang Main"

Yeah lor, coz no point la if you buy so expensive rigs and the time you spent on troubleshooting is more than using the system; totally the opposite of reason of using PC.

THe original point of PC is to service us and make things easy for us; not the other way around.

And yes, I've read thru almost the whole creative thread on X-Fi having issues. It seems that the problem is more prevalent on Abit as MSI nforce4 mobo has a patch to resolve it.

ABIT old clocker ler...

old but still powerfull.

like old man 70+ handle 16'sweetbabe. with no prob at all.

This post has been edited by Mr_47: Sep 15 2005, 02:48 AM

That's the prob I'm facing. Then it restarted by itself. The bestpart is, it restarted while I'm flashing back to 16.

I sent for RMA because of the BIOS that crashed. Btw, I'm using a pair of rams only.

Just got back my board. They changed the BIOS chip, and now I'm on the default 13 again. Afraid of flashing it to 17. anybody can help? My set don't have floppy drive.

What are you talking about? Any other vendor besides Abit using OTES?

What kind of ram u are using?
Just flash 17... it is cooler and stable more...
set ram timing to manual and set ras precharge to 3 if you are using normal ram...

Put ram at slot 3 -4 can gain better stability...

hope this help...

about bios flashing... u can install flash menu and download the bios 1st and update by file ... dun ever flash online or live update...

the best for me

http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/an8/an817.exe

Hehehe. Yup, planning to do so, AGAIN. Actually, it's not cooler, it's just cooler, because you believe what you're seeing. The temperature will be the same, it's just that the sensor need to be calibrated to show the actual temperature. Who knows, maybe they just minus 10 degrees or so from the actual temp? Hehehe.

I'm using a pair of Apacer ram. Checked with CPU-Z, it can do 2.5-4-4-8 by default, if I'm not mistaken. That's the only thing I can afford at the time I bought my set. And I don't know much about rams. Just grab the cheapest. Moreover, I just oc my cpu while the rams are set to run at 400 or lower using divider. So, why should I get a good ram? Maybe later...

3-4? Really? I thought... ... ... Never mind... Will try later. Hopefully won't send my board for RMA, AGAIN

This post has been edited by Fries: Sep 15 2005, 03:35 PM