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 ★★★ LYN PROTON WAJA Club - V10 ★★★, The Journey Never Stop!! Vroooommmmm~~

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mxsteven
post Oct 16 2010, 05:47 PM

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When u wan to kepish ur car? hehehehe
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post Oct 16 2010, 08:21 PM

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i have sumthing new to ask.. hehehe.. mayb yngwie can provide me answers.. after discussing with my brother.. then come along 4g93 n/a.. its a 1.8 sohc rite? and how does it perform? like FC? any better than our 4g18 interm of reliability? (other than capacity of 1.6 & 1.8).. parts?
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post Oct 17 2010, 12:10 AM

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Hi guys, my Waja just broke down yesterday and today sent to repair, just wondering if I've been paying a fair price, my car automator or something with pronounce that way break off and cox my battery to stop recharging so i've to push my car aside until my uncle came with a new battery. A few gentleman assisted me in charging but the effort is in vain..

The below are the cost

My Waja
1. Driving Belt - RM95 (include the automator + aircond belt + another dunno what belt that is also nearby that area)
2. Plug (4 units ) - RM48 (told me is time ups d)
3. Tuining - RM15 (was not sure why but mechanic said already run)
4. Air Filter - RM19 (this is in bad condition as he show it to me so i said ok change lo)
5. Coolent water - RM16 (i thought we just pour normal water but the mechanic said by time to time need to clean the rust but thhis)
6. Terminal 1 side - RM15(the one to hold the battery - Red side because the screw also lossing d)
7.Windscreen washer fluid / break oil / power streering oil - RM8 (do we need shampoo for windscreen washer ?)
8. Charge battery - RM6 (because already kosong)
Total - RM222.00

At the same time also i drive my Kenari there because i've place my car at his garage at the night time so at the same time service lol

Kenari
1. Engine Oil / Oil Filter / Battery Water (sheel Hx5) - RM65.50
2. Labour charge - RM5
3. Spark plugs (3 units) - RM33
4. Windscreen washer fluid / break oil / power steering oil - RM8
Total - RM134.50


And on the time when we do all this service a few error place was found but due to budget i told him that i will come next month so i need to know if the price i'm paying is fair or is this mechanic honest enough before i proceed the next repair which is in higher cost, the things that need to change is below;

1. Suspension back 2 units - RM270 + labour cost (cox got sound d)
2. Tire 2 side - RM180 x 2 = RM260
3. Fan starter - RM70 (was told that the fan could not auto start if my aircond was not on so the temperature will get hot, unless aircond is open then is ok)
4. XXXX - RM 50 - 70 - 80 (i seriously dun get it and can't remember the name, but was told if need to change the fan starter have to change this thing as well, anyone got idea what is it ??)
Total = RM rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


Did i pay a fair price ? cox i just owned this waja (2nd hand) and this is my 1st repair after 4month from day of purchase.. all sifu kindly advise me this new member of waja club sweat.gif thumbup.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 12:18 AM

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i'd say that the price is fair. But for RM15-tuning, i doubt he did anything right, as in, he needs a PDT scanner to get the tuning right in order for your car to idle and run properly yet efficiently.

His charge for the oil change is SUPER cheap, whereas workshops these days charge rm15-25.00.

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post Oct 17 2010, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 17 2010, 12:18 AM)
i'd say that the price is fair. But for RM15-tuning, i doubt he did anything right, as in, he needs a PDT scanner to get the tuning right in order for your car to idle and run properly yet efficiently.

His charge for the oil change is SUPER cheap, whereas workshops these days charge rm15-25.00.
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I see, then maybe it would not be problem for me to send my car for next repair for the suspension and tire and dunno what fan starter, is this fan starter really cost so much ? RM70? i see is a very small machine only wo, i see he only use a kind of skrew driver or what ever u call it and turn left and right on the further top of my engine cover, then he press the fuel, then turn again, then wait and see, then turn again like that he call tuining lol and charge me RM15 for it, no PDT scanner or whatsoever cox i dun see any high-tech device there...
also 1 thing just now i drive and found out, my fuel padel feel harder after repair.. feels like i need to kick it when i want to speed from 90 to above..
he did not change the break oil or the steering oil only top up wo also consider cheap ma ?
also 1 thing, i use to service my gf kenari back in my home town teluk intan and they will give u back the remaining black oil but i never get it here ? is it normal ? cox i forget the price so i cannot compare the service charges - infact this is inside a shell station so he ask me to pump RM30 then cna get discount where the price is usually more than RM65 <-- true ?

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Oct 17 2010, 12:46 AM
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post Oct 17 2010, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 16 2010, 05:23 PM)
its a replacement of Waja... confirmed... Waja no more production till end of this year
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It is not a replacement for waja, and yes, waja has stop it's production
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post Oct 17 2010, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Oct 17 2010, 12:52 AM)
It is not a replacement for waja, and yes, waja has stop it's production
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When P1 announced they will stop waja production?
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post Oct 17 2010, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(Adin @ Oct 17 2010, 01:55 AM)
When P1 announced they will stop waja production?
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Proton also announced that it would stop churning out its Waja model after 10 years of production. However, Syed Zainal said that the Inspira was not meant to fill the vacuum left by the omission of the Waja.

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post Oct 17 2010, 03:13 AM

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i believe that same guy also mention the inspira is no way a replacement for waja lol!


sos - your same video.

But moving forward, waja owners will have to suffer bigger loss than current lancer owners epecially those cps owners. lol
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post Oct 17 2010, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Oct 17 2010, 12:45 AM)
I see, then maybe it would not be problem for me to send my car for next repair for the suspension and tire and dunno what fan starter, is this fan starter really cost so much ? RM70? i see is a very small machine only wo, i see he only use a kind of skrew driver or what ever u call it and turn left and right on the further top of my engine cover, then he press the fuel, then turn again, then wait and see, then turn again like that he call tuining lol and charge me RM15 for it, no PDT scanner or whatsoever cox i dun see any high-tech device there...
also 1 thing just now i drive and found out, my fuel padel feel harder after repair.. feels like i need to kick it when i want to speed from 90 to above..
he did not change the break oil or the steering oil only top up wo also consider cheap ma ?
also 1 thing, i use to service my gf kenari back in my home town teluk intan and they will give u back the remaining black oil but i never get it here ? is it normal ? cox i forget the price so i cannot compare the service charges - infact this is inside a shell station so he ask me to pump RM30 then cna get discount where the price is usually more than RM65 <-- true ?
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I think thats a Fan relay which should cost RM20.... i think you have fallen into marketing traps! I doubt that the mech screw up your settings because 4G18 engine idling cannot be preset that way you mention, it had to be in SAS mode only you can tune the device. I bet your car idling when a/c on and off is different now.... If a Waja tune with SAS mode, the A/C on and off should be maintaining the same RPM and very stable idling. Your acceleration feels slower because the Air Intake mode went into safe mode already due to tuning not in SAS mode. Now your fuel consumption should be terrible.

Give a ring to Elton to get proper guideline as im not in Msia and i cant help you here lols.


Added on October 17, 2010, 6:02 am
QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Oct 17 2010, 12:52 AM)
It is not a replacement for waja, and yes, waja has stop it's production
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The Star says its the replacement of Waja

This post has been edited by mxsteven: Oct 17 2010, 06:02 AM
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:11 AM

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Hey Guys, my current waja enhance 1.6 auto 2005 has sound comes out from front left tyre side inttermittently. Usually it happends while the car was stationary! like i stop at traffic light, and i already put my hand break. After few second or maybe a minute, then this sound would comes out.

The sound like "Eekk!!", sometime very lough, sometime just soft only. I affraid wat is going wrong on my left side typpe or suspension. Anyone has idea for it? I sent to workshop and they also has not sure wat is that, they ask me to put car for days for inspection. But i cant due to i only has 1 transpot to work. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:15 AM

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hello Kenneth,

If the car is stationary and it makes noise, i doubt its got something to do with the suspension. Left tire side you say... its gonna be abit hard to troubleshoot as there are no beltings nor bearings there. Is it an auto transmission?
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:26 AM

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Is it a squeaking sound when your car vibrates when stationary? For my case, I was able to determine its the joint between the car body and the bonnet that is a little rusty due to the rain and heat exposure. Both metal rubbing against each otherl creates the squeaking sound when the car vibrates, so the solution is to apply grease on the joint. Don't use WD40 or oil based lubricant because it will be washed away when you wash your car or when it rains. Hope this helps.

QUOTE(Kenneth728 @ Oct 17 2010, 11:11 AM)
Hey Guys, my current waja enhance 1.6 auto 2005 has sound comes out from front left tyre side inttermittently. Usually it happends while the car was stationary! like i stop at traffic light, and i already put my hand break. After few second or maybe a minute,  then this sound would comes out.

The sound like "Eekk!!", sometime very lough, sometime just soft only. I affraid wat is going wrong on my left side typpe or suspension. Anyone has idea for it? I sent to workshop and they also has not sure wat is that, they ask me to put car for days for inspection. But i cant due to i only has 1 transpot to work.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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This post has been edited by SothysSaleShop: Oct 17 2010, 11:27 AM
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 16 2010, 05:47 PM)
When u wan to kepish ur car? hehehehe
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laugh.gif if got 10k stash somewhere can la laugh.gif

QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 17 2010, 06:01 AM)
I think thats a Fan relay which should cost RM20.... i think you have fallen into marketing traps! I doubt that the mech screw up your settings because 4G18 engine idling cannot be preset that way you mention, it had to be in SAS mode only you can tune the device. I bet your car idling when a/c on and off is different now.... If a Waja tune with SAS mode, the A/C on and off should be maintaining the same RPM and very stable idling. Your acceleration feels slower because the Air Intake mode went into safe mode already due to tuning not in SAS mode. Now your fuel consumption should be terrible.

Give a ring to Elton to get proper guideline as im not in Msia and i cant help you here lols.


Added on October 17, 2010, 6:02 am

The Star says its the replacement of Waja
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well that explains it lo then... last time no matter what idle i try to adjust the when aircon on it always pulls back to 750rpm doh.gif
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post Oct 17 2010, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 17 2010, 06:01 AM)
I think thats a Fan relay which should cost RM20.... i think you have fallen into marketing traps! I doubt that the mech screw up your settings because 4G18 engine idling cannot be preset that way you mention, it had to be in SAS mode only you can tune the device. I bet your car idling when a/c on and off is different now.... If a Waja tune with SAS mode, the A/C on and off should be maintaining the same RPM and very stable idling. Your acceleration feels slower because the Air Intake mode went into safe mode already due to tuning not in SAS mode. Now your fuel consumption should be terrible.

Give a ring to Elton to get proper guideline as im not in Msia and i cant help you here lols.


Added on October 17, 2010, 6:02 am

The Star says its the replacement of Waja
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Geez maybe i've but am not sure also, i was worry as my next repair is my suspension and tire which i dun see any equipment to do allingment there, i worried if change this 2 thing there later allingment become worse then before as now also not straight...

Steven got Elton number ? Elton operates a workshop ? huhu really need guidance la ~ i'm not sure either if it's a fan relay or wat but he call it fan starter that will automatic start the fan when i close air-cond to reduce heat, otherwise i have to ensure my air-cond is always on when i'm driving, this is what that guy said but it cost RM70, hmm Steven u think this is a marketing trick, since thunder said my previous repair was a fair buy ? or maybe he give me a fair price the con me the next time ?

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Oct 17 2010, 11:46 AM
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post Oct 17 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Oct 17 2010, 11:41 AM)
laugh.gif if got 10k stash somewhere can la laugh.gif
well that explains it lo then... last time no matter what idle i try to adjust the when aircon on it always pulls back to 750rpm doh.gif
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is it running better after recalibration tht day?


QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Oct 17 2010, 11:45 AM)
Geez maybe i've but am not sure also, i was worry as my next repair is my suspension and tire which i dun see any equipment to do allingment there, i worried if change this 2 thing there later allingment become worse then before as now also not straight...

Steven got Elton number ? Elton operates a workshop ? huhu really need guidance la ~  i'm not sure either if it's a fan relay or wat but he call it fan starter that will automatic start the fan when i close air-cond to reduce heat, otherwise i have to ensure my air-cond is always on when i'm driving, this is what that guy said but it cost RM70, hmm Steven u think this is a marketing trick, since thunder said my previous repair was a fair buy ? or maybe he give me a fair price the con me the next time ?
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Once absorber is changed, it is a must to do alignment and the workshop will prolly ask you to go do it yourself at a tire shop. You can call me at 012-9096996, i am Elton lol.
Which shell station workshop did you go to?>
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post Oct 17 2010, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Oct 17 2010, 12:10 AM)
Hi guys, my Waja just broke down yesterday and today sent to repair, just wondering if I've  been paying a fair price, my car automator or something with pronounce that way break off and cox my battery to stop recharging so i've to push my car aside until my uncle came with a new battery. A few gentleman assisted me in charging but the effort is in vain..

The below are the cost

My Waja
1. Driving Belt - RM95 (include the automator + aircond belt + another dunno what belt that is also nearby that area)
2. Plug (4 units ) - RM48 (told me is time ups d)
3. Tuining - RM15 (was not sure why but mechanic said already run)
4. Air Filter - RM19 (this is in bad condition as he show it to me so i said ok change lo)
5. Coolent water - RM16 (i thought we just pour normal water but the mechanic said by time to time need to clean the rust but thhis)
6. Terminal 1 side - RM15(the one to hold the battery - Red side because the screw also lossing d)
7.Windscreen washer fluid / break oil / power streering oil - RM8 (do we need shampoo for windscreen washer ?)
8. Charge battery - RM6 (because already kosong)
Total - RM222.00

At the same time also i drive my Kenari there because i've place my car at his garage at the night time so at the same time service lol

Kenari
1. Engine Oil / Oil Filter / Battery Water (sheel Hx5) - RM65.50
2. Labour charge - RM5
3. Spark plugs (3 units) - RM33
4. Windscreen washer fluid / break oil / power steering oil - RM8
Total - RM134.50
And on the time when we do all this service a few error place was found but due to budget i told him that i will come next month so i need to know if the price i'm paying is fair or is this mechanic honest enough before i proceed the next repair which is in higher cost, the things that need to change is below;

1. Suspension back 2 units - RM270 + labour cost (cox got sound d)
2. Tire 2 side - RM180 x 2 = RM260
3. Fan starter - RM70 (was told that the fan could not auto start if my aircond was not on so the temperature will get hot, unless aircond is open then is ok)
4. XXXX - RM 50 - 70 - 80 (i seriously dun get it and can't remember the name, but was told if need to change the fan starter have to change this thing as well, anyone got idea what is it ??)
Total = RM  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Did i pay a fair price ? cox i just owned this waja (2nd hand) and this is my 1st repair after 4month from day of purchase.. all sifu kindly advise me this new member of waja club sweat.gif  thumbup.gif
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i would say mix of fair and cut-throat price. plug RM48 is quite steep. normal should be less. Tuning, if just to turn a screw to make idle lower, my mech would do that for free each time i change my engine oil. and he did not check you alternator(automator) problem. it should be checked to make sure it charge your battery properly. rear suspension, oem kyb gas is should be around Rm150/pair.

i'd say this is bad bengkel just to get more $$ from u.
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 17 2010, 11:15 AM)
hello Kenneth,

If the car is stationary and it makes noise, i doubt its got something to do with the suspension. Left tire side you say... its gonna be abit hard to troubleshoot as there are no beltings nor bearings there. Is it an auto transmission?
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Yeah, its auto. This "Eekk" sound only come out once , after that wont listen anymore after next few minutes. It happened occasionally. Im pretty sure it from left side, but not sure from suspension or maybe from engine compartment. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Oct 17 2010, 11:41 AM)
laugh.gif if got 10k stash somewhere can la laugh.gif
well that explains it lo then... last time no matter what idle i try to adjust the when aircon on it always pulls back to 750rpm doh.gif
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hahahaha now u only know ahhh... i thought i told everyone when doin reflashing
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post Oct 17 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Kenneth728 @ Oct 17 2010, 02:55 PM)
Yeah, its auto. This "Eekk" sound only come out once , after that wont listen anymore after next few minutes. It happened occasionally. Im pretty sure it from left side, but not sure from suspension or maybe from engine compartment.  sweat.gif
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if it comes out occasionally and u want me to do a simple visual inspection for ur car u can gimme a call at 012-9096996. At the same time you can also try my Threebond just to give your car that brand new feeling

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