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post Oct 17 2010, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Oct 17 2010, 11:45 AM)
Geez maybe i've but am not sure also, i was worry as my next repair is my suspension and tire which i dun see any equipment to do allingment there, i worried if change this 2 thing there later allingment become worse then before as now also not straight...

Steven got Elton number ? Elton operates a workshop ? huhu really need guidance la ~  i'm not sure either if it's a fan relay or wat but he call it fan starter that will automatic start the fan when i close air-cond to reduce heat, otherwise i have to ensure my air-cond is always on when i'm driving, this is what that guy said but it cost RM70, hmm Steven u think this is a marketing trick, since thunder said my previous repair was a fair buy ? or maybe he give me a fair price the con me the next time ?
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he charge you cheap for labour but not for parts... and he will do his own way and make sure you pay. All the labour amount is small but when sum it up, you can see where ur money goes lols


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QUOTE(Kenneth728 @ Oct 17 2010, 02:55 PM)
Yeah, its auto. This "Eekk" sound only come out once , after that wont listen anymore after next few minutes. It happened occasionally. Im pretty sure it from left side, but not sure from suspension or maybe from engine compartment.  sweat.gif
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Seems like rear bush..... try to spray WD40 on the bush till u catch the sound.

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post Oct 17 2010, 03:11 PM

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FYI, What is WD40 and how it born.

With so many applications, WD-40 is a very useful item to keep at home.

This is some very useful info for WD-40!

Before you read to the end, does anybody know what the main ingredient of WD-40 is? Don't lie don't cheat. WD-40. Who knew? I had a neighbor who bought a new pickup. I got up very early one Sunday morning and saw that someone had spray painted red all around the sides of this beige truck (for some unknown reason). I went over, woke him up, and told
him the bad news. He was very upset and was trying to figure out what to do..... probably nothing until Monday morning, since nothing was open. Another neighbor came out and told him to get his WD-40 and clean it off. It removed the unwanted paint beautifully and did not harm his paint job that was on the truck.

I'm impressed!

WD-40 who knew? 'Water Displacement #40'. The product began from a search for a rust preventative solvent and degreaser to protect missile parts.

WD-40 was created in 1953 by three technicians at the San Diego Rocket Chemical Company. Its name comes from the project that was to find a ''water displacement' compound.. They were successful with the fortieth formulation, thus WD-40. The Convair Company bought it in bulk to protect their atlas missile parts.

Ken East (one of the original founders) says there is nothing in WD-40 that would hurt you. When you read the 'shower door' part, try it. It's the first thing that has ever cleaned that spotty shower door. If yours is plastic, it works just as well as glass. It's a miracle! Then
try it on your stove top... Viola! It's now shinier than it's ever been. You'll be amazed.

WD-40 uses:

1. Protects silver from tarnishing.
2. Removes road tar and grime from cars.
3. Cleans and lubricates guitar strings.
4. Gives floors that 'just-waxed' sheen without making them slippery.
5. Keeps flies off cows.
6. Restores and cleans chalkboards.
7. Removes lipstick stains.
8. Loosens stubborn zippers.
9. Untangles jewelry chains.
10. Removes stains from stainless steel sinks..
11. Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.
12. Keeps ceramic/terra cotta garden pots from oxidizing.
13. Removes tomato stains from clothing.
14. Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.
15. Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.
16. Keeps scissors working smoothly.
17. Lubricates noisy door hinges on vehicles and doors in homes.
18. It removes black scuff marks from the kitchen floor! Use WD-40 for those nasty tar and scuff marks on flooring. It doesn't seem to harm the finish and you won't have to scrub nearly as hard to get them off. Just remember to open some windows if you have a lot of marks.
19. Bug guts will eat away the finish on your car if not removed quickly! Use WD-40!
20. Gives a children's playground gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.
21. Lubricates gear shift and mower deck lever for ease of handling on riding mowers.
22. Rids kids rocking chairs and swings of squeaky noises.
23. Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to open.
24. Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.
25. Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, as well as vinyl bumpers.
26. Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.
27. Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans
28. Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for easy handling.
29. Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running smoothly.
30. Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.
31. Removes splattered grease on stove.
32. Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.
33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
35. Removes all traces of duct tape.
36. Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve arthritis pain.
NOTE: A FRIEND USES THIS ON HIS KNEES. MAKES HIS HANDS REALLY SOFT AS WELL IN THE PROCESS.
37. Florida 's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs from grills and bumpers.'
38. The favorite use in the state of New York , WD-40 protects the Statue of Liberty from the elements.
39. WD-40 attracts fish. Spray a little on live bait or lures and you will be catching the big one in no time. Also, it's a lot cheaper than the chemical attractants that are made for just that purpose.
Keep in mind though, using some chemical laced baits or lures for fishing are not allowed in some states.
40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and stops the itch.
41. WD-40 is great for removing crayon from walls. Spray on the mark and wipe with a clean rag.
42. Also, if you've discovered that your teenage daughter has washed and dried a tube of lipstick with a load of laundry, saturate the lipstick spots with WD-40 and rewash. Presto! The lipstick is gone!
43. If you sprayed WD-40 on the distributor cap, it would displace the moisture and allow the car to start.
44. Keeps golf shoes dry!
45. Removes labels merchants attach to everything.

This post has been edited by mxsteven: Oct 17 2010, 03:12 PM
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post Oct 17 2010, 03:39 PM

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hahahaha, got this email before =)
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post Oct 17 2010, 04:05 PM

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yea just share it here incase anyone miss out
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QUOTE(mao2 @ Oct 16 2010, 08:21 PM)
i have sumthing new to ask.. hehehe.. mayb yngwie can provide me answers.. after discussing with my brother.. then come along 4g93 n/a.. its a 1.8 sohc rite? and how does it perform? like FC? any better than our 4g18 interm of reliability? (other than capacity of 1.6 & 1.8).. parts?
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there are few type of 4g93 / gsr. mine was of gsrt ck or dohc 4g93t with mivec head and custom made parts to accommodate the aggressive head.
spare parts was plenty. dyno result shows a lousy 270bhp on flywheel to protect the almost stock tiptronic gearbox.
i could say the reliability is about the same with 4g18p. a few friend had been using 4g93t on their waja for 5 years without any problem; provided that due care was practiced.
normal driving style with 'kepishh!' overtaking sound brows.gif return about 8.41km/l or 0.24/km using bhp and caltex ron97. just stay away from the lousy shell's v-power 97 for spirited driving.
perhaps, you could go for dohc 4g93t and just de-tuned it by removing the turbo and use proper piggyback management.

QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Oct 17 2010, 12:10 AM)
Hi guys, my Waja just broke down yesterday and today sent to repair, just wondering if I've  been paying a fair price, my car automator or something with pronounce that way break off and cox my battery to stop recharging so i've to push my car aside until my uncle came with a new battery. A few gentleman assisted me in charging but the effort is in vain..

The below are the cost

My Waja
1. Driving Belt - RM95 (include the automator + aircond belt + another dunno what belt that is also nearby that area)
he changed the timing belt and air-con belt together? fyi, timing belt easily cost around 135 bucks. air-con belt usually cost around 45 bucks and a few bucks more for proper oiling / seal on belt and alternator
2. Plug (4 units ) - RM48 (told me is time ups d)
was this a standard spark plug or platinum spark plug? fyi, standard spark plug cost less than 30 bucks. platinum around 50 bucks
3. Tuning - RM15 (was not sure why but mechanic said already run)
what tuning? since all he did was adjusting the engine timing somewhere near the throttle body, this should be free
4. Air Filter - RM19 (this is in bad condition as he show it to me so i said ok change lo)
normal price
5. Coolent water - RM16 (i thought we just pour normal water but the mechanic said by time to time need to clean the rust but thhis)
not sure which brand of coolant but without flushing, price is okay
6. Terminal 1 side - RM15(the one to hold the battery - Red side because the screw also lossing d)
battery terminal was design to last the car's lifetime. how often we touch that area?
7.Windscreen washer fluid / break oil / power streering oil - RM8 (do we need shampoo for windscreen washer ?)
windscreen washer fluid is useless. i doubt brake oil and power steering oil top up cost a mere 8 bucks
8. Charge battery - RM6 (because already kosong)
standard price
Total - RM222.00

And on the time when we do all this service a few error place was found but due to budget i told him that i will come next month so i need to know if the price i'm paying is fair or is this mechanic honest enough before i proceed the next repair which is in higher cost, the things that need to change is below;

1. Suspension back 2 units - RM270 + labour cost (cox got sound d)
if he 'll using the stock apm absorber, it's a cut throat price. pts tire in setapak used to charge around less than 180 bucks including labour
2. Tire 2 side - RM180 x 2 = RM260
which brand and model? price seem to be fair but we deserved a good pair of tire at that price
3. Fan starter - RM70 (was told that the fan could not auto start if my aircond was not on so the temperature will get hot, unless aircond is open then is ok)
you sure about this? the fan had a sensor that could detect the engine temperature. hence, it will only start once the air-con start or it detect an excessive heat on the engine. to confirm this, once you stop driving, turn off the air-con and the fan should stop spinning as well. but it will still spinning on and off depending on the engine heat
4. XXXX - RM 50 - 70 - 80 (i seriously dun get it and can't remember the name, but was told if need to change the fan starter have to change this thing as well, anyone got idea what is it ??)
fan relay? 
Total = RM  rclxub.gif 
Did i pay a fair price ? cox i just owned this waja (2nd hand) and this is my 1st repair after 4month from day of purchase.. all sifu kindly advise me this new member of waja club sweat.gif  thumbup.gif
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btw, you're paying an expensive price. but we don't blame you. a lot of mechanic out there always take advantage of the situation. even so for newbie car owner.
it was an alternator. and from the list of changed parts. you alternator is fine but the belt maybe snapped.
my advice, go for throttle body cleaning. ThunderGod_Cid could do it for you. where are you staying, maybe we could recommend a reliable workshop for you as well.
and welcome to waja thread smile.gif

QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 17 2010, 12:18 AM)
i'd say that the price is fair. But for RM15-tuning, i doubt he did anything right, as in, he needs a PDT scanner to get the tuning right in order for your car to idle and run properly yet efficiently.

His charge for the oil change is SUPER cheap, whereas workshops these days charge rm15-25.00.
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all he did was prolly' adjust / re-calibrate the engine timing around the throttle body area. as what you usually did every time after throttle body service.
and shell hx-5 was a mineral oil. for kenari, at RM65.50 with oil filter, it should be free tongue.gif

QUOTE(Kenneth728 @ Oct 17 2010, 11:11 AM)
Hey Guys, my current waja enhance 1.6 auto 2005 has sound comes out from front left tyre side inttermittently. Usually it happends while the car was stationary! like i stop at traffic light, and i already put my hand break. After few second or maybe a minute,  then this sound would comes out.

The sound like "Eekk!!", sometime very lough, sometime just soft only. I affraid wat is going wrong on my left side typpe or suspension. Anyone has idea for it? I sent to workshop and they also has not sure wat is that, they ask me to put car for days for inspection. But i cant due to i only has 1 transpot to work.  icon_question.gif
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were you using the same brake pad on both side? was you car stay in line or slight to the left during sudden braking in high speed?
try pressing the bonnet on the left side(on top of the absorber) and observe if the it bounced more than once for possible absorber problem.
need the car around to do troubleshooting.

This post has been edited by yngwie: Oct 17 2010, 04:49 PM
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post Oct 17 2010, 05:08 PM

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yngwie : would u rather go for a mivec than to detune the 4g93t?
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 17 2010, 05:08 PM)
yngwie : would u rather go for a mivec than to detune the 4g93t?
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hmm... good question. but suitable mivec for waja only available in 1.6. no doubt it offer more fun due to the aggressive behaviour.
but i decide to go ahead and experiment with 4g93t coupled to a mivec head.
1st step was swapping the td05 with s256. and a custom made 'top part' to feed the mivec head properly.
with all the modification, car was good for 3xxbhp when running on twin plate ogura but was keep at 270bhp to protect the the tiptronic gearbox and to serve the purpose as a city car.
i think its all down to individual taste and preference. thumbup.gif

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i can see another Monster coming ahahaha.... my car is just a kutu only lols
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 17 2010, 03:02 PM)
hahahaha now u only know ahhh... i thought i told everyone when doin reflashing
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haha.. u did.. but it kindda slip my mind that the timing when aircon kicks in would be different too.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 17 2010, 05:28 PM)
hmm... good question. but suitable mivec for waja only available in 1.6. no doubt it offer more fun due to the aggressive behaviour.
but i decide to go ahead and experiment with 4g93t coupled to a mivec head.
1st step was swapping the td05 with s256. and a custom made 'top part' to feed the mivec head properly.
with all the modification, car was good for 3xxbhp when running on twin plate ogura but was keep at 270bhp to protect the the tiptronic gearbox and to serve the purpose as a city car.
i think its all down to individual taste and preference.  thumbup.gif
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ive no idea how tiptronics have clutch in them as i never bothered to take a look at em, mind explaining?
Mivec on a 4g93t engine, mibec turbooooo huhu. 300plus is nice.

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Oct 17 2010, 06:28 PM)
haha.. u did.. but it kindda slip my mind that the timing when aircon kicks in would be different too.... tongue.gif
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Thats is the functin for ISC motor or what we called stepper motor! it function as RPM stabilizer. SAS mode is to park the motor at the right step for calibration.
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 17 2010, 02:24 PM)
is it running better after recalibration tht day?
Once absorber is changed, it is a must to do alignment and the workshop will prolly ask you to go do it yourself at a tire shop. You can call me at 012-9096996, i am Elton lol.
Which shell station workshop did you go to?>
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Haha Sry i just realize 1 stupid things, i put my car to wash straight after repair since it's in shell station tha equip with car wash so the indo pull my carpet (the rubber use to hold sands) too front and block the pedel, when 1st i just squat and see i din notice it until just now i double check again, so the pedel problem is solve.. since you could do alignment why dun do my absorber as well ? given a fair price tongue.gif , the shell station is located at ampang, somewhere near a corner into bintang mall (i guess the name only can't remember)
So Elton u got your own garage for repair ? where is your location ?

QUOTE(zaidi @ Oct 17 2010, 02:50 PM)
i would say mix of fair and cut-throat price. plug RM48 is quite steep. normal should be less. Tuning, if just to turn a screw to make idle lower, my mech would do that for free each time i change my engine oil. and he did not check you alternator(automator) problem. it should be checked to make sure it charge your battery properly. rear suspension, oem kyb gas is should be around Rm150/pair.

i'd say this is bad bengkel just to get more $$ from u.
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Ya i found strange also when i see the bill tuining RM15, i never knew he is charging tuining cox when i stand there he just told me now i do the tuining for u and i just say ok lo cox i see he just use a screw driver to turn left and right never know it's chargeble.. RM48 + labor ? i dunno how this guy counts, does this oem kyb gas is good enough for normal user like me ? durability ? but i think his RM270 for both rear absorber is including labour if i not mistaken..

QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 17 2010, 03:05 PM)
he charge you cheap for labour but not for parts... and he will do his own way and make sure you pay. All the labour amount is small but when sum it up, you can see where ur money goes lols


Added on October 17, 2010, 3:09 pm
Seems like rear bush..... try to spray WD40 on the bush till u catch the sound.
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Lol that means i kena CON d cry.gif by the way this WD-40 really that good mah ? how much does it cost ?

Yngwie:
1. Not the timing belt cox mine just change once i buy so should not be problem, it's the alternator belt, air cond belt and another belt at the same place
2. I cant differentite, but from your price list it's for sure a standard one then... cry.gif
3. Kena CON 99 this part + this is the only part he never tell me that is chargable doh.gif
4. selamat sweat.gif
5. selamat again sweat.gif x2
6. not sure but because when i try to take off my battery i can't really move the nut as it move all together so have to use another playar to hold on the other ends, so i make decision to change it maybe i was wrong also zzz
7. so it's should be more or ?
8. Selama again x 3

Suspension / absorber <-- see Elton got provide this service if yes i try to go his place
Tire <-- forget wat name d, but i ask early can get goodyear or not he said that all good tire u cannot get in 180, so i was not so sure..
Fan <-- maybe true cox sometimes when we stop the car for sometime with engine on, sometime the engine / fan like moving got sound the awhile slow down then maybe around 2min again, like up and down so i not sure this is to change or not cox he said this cost RM70 bucks + if change this have to change another dunno what thing also that is nearly 100 bucks zzz

I rent a room at ampang area, inside korean village opposite ampang point, throttle body cleaning means ? full body check ? hahaha sorry for being noobiez notworthy.gif



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wd40 go to hardware shop can get... make sure it is wd40
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QUOTE(mxsteven @ Oct 17 2010, 11:33 PM)
wd40 go to hardware shop can get... make sure it is wd40
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any idea roughly how much it will cost me? and can it remove ketchup stain on cloth that is been for months ?

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steven wanna ask something already..since the day i reflashing from you everything was ok. then i went to service my car, i feel even better power but now since like the reflashing is gone or is my own mental thinking. i feel like the car very laggy and the auto transmission would like delay for second to wait for the power to kick in, last time wasnt like that till last week i feel the power is gone already.
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Other den Autofoam, what else can i do to improve the comfort?
I'm on 60 series tires now..
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Oct 18 2010, 12:11 AM)
Other den Autofoam, what else can i do to improve the comfort?
I'm on 60 series tires now..
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MORE autofoam. and soundproofing on the doors
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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 17 2010, 07:54 PM)
ive no idea how tiptronics have clutch in them as i never bothered to take a look at em, mind explaining?
Mivec on a 4g93t engine, mibec turbooooo huhu. 300plus is nice.
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basically, it should. never open one. still using the torque converter thou. only good thing over the conventional auto tranny was it was being able to shift rapidly depending on the driving style. the tiptronic mode only allow for slight engine drag, after that, without downshifting or upshifting, gear still change by itself.
since it was gsrt block and mivec head, can't really call it mivec turbo tongue.gif

QUOTE(Kelvin5717 @ Oct 17 2010, 11:19 PM)
throttle body cleaning means ? full body check ? hahaha sorry for being noobiez  notworthy.gif
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throttle body was the part where the air mix in.
you can check with elton @thundergod_cid, he do a throttle body cleaning as well. car usually feels' lighter after throttle body cleaning.

QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Oct 18 2010, 12:52 PM)
MORE autofoam. and soundproofing on the doors
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yeah. soundproofing on 4 doors using the rubber foam, cotton-waste like material and a thin layer of bitumen. diy on all 4 door took me almost 6 hours sweat.gif
while waiting for the ca glue to dry up, i start working on another door.
btw, sound proofing on the roof panel area is really paid off. esp. during heavy rain.
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 17 2010, 05:28 PM)
hmm... good question. but suitable mivec for waja only available in 1.6. no doubt it offer more fun due to the aggressive behaviour.
but i decide to go ahead and experiment with 4g93t coupled to a mivec head.
1st step was swapping the td05 with s256. and a custom made 'top part' to feed the mivec head properly.
with all the modification, car was good for 3xxbhp when running on twin plate ogura but was keep at 270bhp to protect the the tiptronic gearbox and to serve the purpose as a city car.
i think its all down to individual taste and preference.  thumbup.gif
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may I know why do you choose the tiptronic over the manual? And is your 4g93t are those they call 'terbalik' ones?
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 18 2010, 01:25 PM)
basically, it should. never open one.  still using the torque converter thou. only good thing over the conventional auto tranny was it was being able to shift rapidly depending on the driving style. the tiptronic mode only allow for slight engine drag, after that, without downshifting or upshifting, gear still change by itself.
since it was gsrt block and mivec head, can't really call it mivec turbo  tongue.gif
throttle body was the part where the air mix in.
you can check with elton @thundergod_cid, he do a throttle body cleaning as well. car usually feels' lighter after throttle body cleaning.
yeah. soundproofing on 4 doors using the rubber foam, cotton-waste like material and a thin layer of bitumen. diy on all 4 door took me almost 6 hours  sweat.gif
while waiting for the ca glue to dry up, i start working on another door.
btw, sound proofing on the roof panel area is really paid off. esp. during heavy rain.
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monster mivec turbo lol. I sometimes drive a Mazda 6 BOT, with shiftronic. The way we take care of the gb :
we release the throttle in between gear changes and drive it like a manual so that you dont put too much torque/stress onto the clutch packs and brake bands.
If we don't release the throttle, it slips.

Engine is about 300whp and tranny was ordered from level10, US which costed close to 25grand

As for the insulation, why you suggest cotton waste? 3M is supplying one of these cotton products which claims to give a real biggy difference. It's called Thinsulate =)

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