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 PROTON SAGA BLMCLUB V11, version eleven

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post Nov 27 2010, 01:06 PM

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Bro ayieazz, how's the ride comfort of 16"s fare compared to the stock 14"s?
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post Nov 27 2010, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Nov 27 2010, 11:58 AM)
[huh! 280 each for ventus hr2 of that size is expensive. you should've ask for the better hankook v12 evo(AA traction rating) instead.
and looks like the heavy lenso to me. prepare for worst fc.
100 bucks could get you could get a set of sports nut and and another set of security nut.
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prepare for worst fc.? doh.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:11 pm
QUOTE(claxxion @ Nov 27 2010, 01:06 PM)
Bro ayieazz, how's the ride comfort of 16"s fare compared to the stock 14"s?
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for me..i feel like standard 185/60/14 is better for comfort..dunno if this new set better in connering and high speed..coz i always drive 140-160kmh on plus hgway when balik kmpg biggrin.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:23 pm1 more thing..just notice this morning..drive with 4 people inside(avrg 60kg/person) i can hear that my tyre hit fender when cross speedbump..always use that road but never happen before..what should i do? change spring/absorber? coz it will be worst if full load when balik kmpg sweat.gif

This post has been edited by ayieazz: Nov 27 2010, 02:23 PM
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post Nov 27 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(ayieazz @ Nov 27 2010, 02:06 PM)
prepare for worst fc.? doh.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:11 pm
for me..i feel like standard 185/60/14 is better for comfort..dunno if this new set better in connering and high speed..coz i always drive 140-160kmh on plus hgway when balik kmpg biggrin.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:23 pm1 more thing..just notice this morning..drive with 4 people inside(avrg 60kg/person) i can hear that my tyre hit fender when cross speedbump..always use that road but never happen before..what should i do? change spring/absorber? coz it will be worst if full load when balik kmpg sweat.gif
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No offence.

You and the workshop should clearly know this issue before change to such extreme oversize tyre, but seems like u are noob enuf to be poisoned by ur bro and plus the workshop is totally irresponsible.

Even alot of ppl complain 195/55/R15 will hit fender with ori absorber and spring.

Now ur tyre sidewall is very thin, so u sacrifice the comfort, u will feel bumpy even with ori soft absorber and spring, i dun think you have more than 2 options in ur case.

1. Change to sport spring (stiff) and absorber, but you will feel riding hose after that. Ur interior plastic mounting will lose very fast due to bump.
2. Sell all ur rim and tyre and downsize to normal 14 or 195/50/R15., which is waste money.

You choose. doh.gif

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Nov 27 2010, 03:20 PM
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post Nov 27 2010, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(ayieazz @ Nov 27 2010, 02:06 PM)
prepare for worst fc.? doh.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:11 pm
for me..i feel like standard 185/60/14 is better for comfort..dunno if this new set better in connering and high speed..coz i always drive 140-160kmh on plus hgway when balik kmpg biggrin.gif


Added on November 27, 2010, 2:23 pm1 more thing..just notice this morning..drive with 4 people inside(avrg 60kg/person) i can hear that my tyre hit fender when cross speedbump..always use that road but never happen before..what should i do? change spring/absorber? coz it will be worst if full load when balik kmpg sweat.gif
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huh! you don't get it?
your lenso is no lightweight wheels. even more with 16". fuel consumption will be very bad.

cons with your current wheels ;
1. the acceleration changed from bad to worst. and slower time to reach top speed.
2. increased in fuel consumption
3. bumpy ride.
4. there is a compromise in braking effectiveness. the wider and bigger tire diameter will affect the already not so effective brake behavior.
5. bad tires and fender contact. your tires' top sidewall gonna hit the rear and front during fully loaded on uneven bump and front during full steering turn.

pros ;
1. slightly better handling on low profile tires.
2. better looking.
thats it! doh.gif

btw, original tires profile is at least 60 which is thicker while you're currently on low profile 45. a lot of sacrifice in comfort for the so so handling on the
torsion beam rear suspension on saga.
you need to get a stiffer suspension system to compensate the bigger wheels. which in turn, as mentioned by coolkwc will affect the overall car's behaviour.
next time, do a proper homework before upgrading.
for big wheels on saga, the shop should have recommend you 195/50/r16 instead of 205.beside being overcharged by the shop, you will end up losing more sooner.

btw, i do own a saga blm which i bought for my sister and it was doing well on 195/50/r15 smile.gif

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post Nov 27 2010, 06:12 PM

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im just telling u by experience, ofcoz im pointing at certain SA, not the whole company.if u think the review is good, then go ahead.

ayieazz
i can solve ur fender hitting with only rm200. get a set of zmax sport spring.problem solved. dun ask me why, coz i will not elaborate more on technical stuff (im noob), i answer by experience.LOL.
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post Nov 27 2010, 10:43 PM

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thanks coolkwc and yngwie good explanation...i'm noob doh.gif ..if i change to 195/50/16 ok or not, still sangkut?


Added on November 27, 2010, 10:46 pm
QUOTE(SiuYi @ Nov 27 2010, 06:12 PM)
fenrir0402
im just telling u by experience, ofcoz im pointing at certain SA, not the whole company.if u think the review is good, then go ahead.

ayieazz
i can solve ur fender hitting with only rm200. get a set of zmax sport spring.problem solved. dun ask me why, coz i will not elaborate more on technical stuff (im noob), i answer by experience.LOL.
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if use this spring, no need to ketuk fender? unsure.gif rm 200 for rear only?

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post Nov 27 2010, 10:46 PM

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15" punya la. didn't the guy who change your tyre tell you you cant use 16" ones?
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post Nov 27 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 27 2010, 10:46 PM)
15" punya la. didn't the guy who change your tyre tell you you cant use 16" ones?
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that guy want untung lebey la i think..my fault oso not doin research 1st cry.gif
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post Nov 28 2010, 12:21 AM

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Does the Ultra Racing strut bar improve handling?

Noob here. I heard its quite cheap to install.
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post Nov 28 2010, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(ayieazz @ Nov 27 2010, 11:39 PM)
that guy want untung lebey la i think..my fault oso not doin research 1st cry.gif
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next time you have to insist and i think that tayar shop, you should ban yourself from going there again.

QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Nov 28 2010, 12:21 AM)
Does the Ultra Racing strut bar improve handling?

Noob here. I heard its quite cheap to install.
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if you drive fast + accident trust me it do help! Installed... haha.

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post Nov 28 2010, 12:43 AM

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any saga owner here facing air-con problem?I need some troubleshooting.. I am a new owner of saga blm.. smile.gif
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post Nov 28 2010, 12:55 AM

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anyone using greber absorber for their blm? can share some info bout price and its performance? notworthy.gif


Added on November 28, 2010, 12:56 am
QUOTE(weihao2005 @ Nov 28 2010, 12:43 AM)
any saga owner here facing air-con problem?I need some troubleshooting..  I am a new owner of saga blm.. smile.gif
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what kind of problem bro?

This post has been edited by ayieazz: Nov 28 2010, 12:56 AM
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post Nov 28 2010, 08:17 AM

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hello,
Is it normal, when change gear from normal to reverse, sound produced is louder than others gear?
Help me please.
Because I already issue this problem to SC, but they told me, this is normal condition.

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post Nov 28 2010, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(farid_cool @ Nov 28 2010, 08:17 AM)
hello,
Is it normal, when change gear from normal to reverse, sound produced is louder than others gear?
Help me please.
Because I already issue this problem to SC, but they told me, this is normal condition.
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Auto? Manual?
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post Nov 28 2010, 10:40 AM

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Manual
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post Nov 28 2010, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(farid_cool @ Nov 28 2010, 10:40 AM)
Manual
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'Normal' because all is like this. SC ppl like to say normal one. doh.gif 'abnormal' becos only BLM manual got this sound. doh.gif

Next time after press the clutch, wait 2-3s before engage to reverse gear, and change slowly, don suddenly engage, then u will get rid of this sound. It works on me.
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post Nov 28 2010, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Nov 28 2010, 12:21 AM)
Does the Ultra Racing strut bar improve handling?

Noob here. I heard its quite cheap to install.
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yup... lagi syiok corner roundabout highspeed and hard u-turn...
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post Nov 28 2010, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Nov 28 2010, 01:15 PM)
yup... lagi syiok corner roundabout highspeed and hard u-turn...
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From all ur previous posts u seems like a dangerous driver on road... doh.gif luckily you stay at East MAS while I at West MAS. thumbup.gif
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post Nov 28 2010, 01:41 PM

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ekekeke... i think lagi syiok if i can drive there... but too bad... a week there also i cant remember how to get to KLCC from the hotel unless use LRT...

btw saga is a good car to drive that way... stable, roaring engine...
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post Nov 28 2010, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Nov 28 2010, 11:00 AM)
'Normal' because all is like this. SC ppl like to say normal one. doh.gif 'abnormal' becos only BLM manual got this sound. doh.gif

Next time after press the clutch, wait 2-3s before engage to reverse gear, and change slowly, don suddenly engage, then u will get rid of this sound. It works on me.
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OK.
Thanks. nod.gif

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