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post Oct 10 2018, 02:32 PM

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Yes we all have to decide our own route towards this journey nod.gif https://everything2.com/title/Buddhaghosa
Buddhaghosa hopes that the merit he has earned by writing the Vishuddhimagga will allow him to be reborn in heaven, abide there until Metteyya (Maitreya) appears, hear his teaching and then attain enlightenment. Postscript to the Visuddhimagga

May it continue here to show
The way to purity of virtue, etc.,
For clansmen seeking out the means
To ferry them across the worlds
For just as long as in this world
Shall last that name “Enlightened One,”
By which, thus purified in mind,
Is known the Greatest Sage, World Chief.
By the performance of such merit
As has been gained by me through this
And any other still in hand
So may I in my next becoming
Behold the joys of Távatiísá,
Glad in the qualities of virtue
And unattached to sense desires.
By having reached the first fruition,
And having in my last life seen
Metteyya, Lord of Sages, Highest
Of persons in the World, and
Helper Delighting in all beings’ welfare,
And heard that Holy One proclaim
The Teaching of the Noble Dhamma,
May I grace the Victor’s Dispensation
By realizing its highest fruit.

QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 10 2018, 12:05 PM)
Anathapindika  has attained the lowest state of enlightenment but not yet final Nibbana, but he would be destined to attain in within 7 lifetimes.

Well, one should strive to attain Nibbana asap. For us worldlings, our future births are not certain, and we don't even know what sort of evil karma that is walking behind us.

A being is only totally safe when he has at least attained Sotapanna, for gates of hell, animal wombs, demons and ghosts are closed for him.. forever.
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post Oct 10 2018, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(learn2earn8 @ Oct 10 2018, 02:32 PM)
Yes we all have to decide our own route towards this journey  nod.gif  https://everything2.com/title/Buddhaghosa
Buddhaghosa hopes that the merit he has earned by writing the Vishuddhimagga will allow him to be reborn in heaven, abide there until Metteyya (Maitreya) appears, hear his teaching and then attain enlightenment. Postscript to the Visuddhimagga

May it continue here to show
The way to purity of virtue, etc.,
For clansmen seeking out the means
To ferry them across the worlds
For just as long as in this world
Shall last that name “Enlightened One,”
By which, thus purified in mind,
Is known the Greatest Sage, World Chief.
By the performance of such merit
As has been gained by me through this
And any other still in hand
So may I in my next becoming
Behold the joys of Távatiísá,
Glad in the qualities of virtue
And unattached to sense desires.
By having reached the first fruition,
And having in my last life seen
Metteyya, Lord of Sages, Highest
Of persons in the World, and
Helper Delighting in all beings’ welfare,
And heard that Holy One proclaim
The Teaching of the Noble Dhamma,
May I grace the Victor’s Dispensation
By realizing its highest fruit.
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wow, you read visuddhimagga?
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post Oct 10 2018, 04:38 PM

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no chance to find out, since nalanda university no longer exists devil.gif http://www.ancientpages.com/2015/08/24/nal...-ancient-world/

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lucky got ancient china for safekeeping some of the sutras for cross checking and also confirming the cave meeting of the first council, some physical works of raja asoka that withstood the test of time and the ancient monks risking their life to translate as much sutra as they can

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irregardless of theravada or mahayana, based on the ancients writings of monks Faxian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faxian & Xuanzang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanzang
we get to see sutta comes alive, stairs from heaven , relics during their era shining bright lights up to heaven , nagas , bodhi tree etc and also warnings about the calamity that was about to hit india, interesting, all this ancient monks has a desire to meet the next buddha

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below is TLDR and lots of good excerpt from that era , the same message we see from india to bukit meriam kedah , its key inscription remains the same
http://puratattva.in/2012/03/29/sanchi-bud...-sangham-9-1535
Sanchi - Buddhist creed on these tablets reads, ‘Ye dharma hetu-prabhava hetum tesham Tathagato-hy-avadatu tesham cha yo nirodha evamvadi maha-sramanah’. It translates, ‘Of these things (conditions) which spring from a cause, the cause has been told by Tathagata; and their suppression likewise the great Sramana has revealed’

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A) (A.D. 399-414) Faxian (1886). A Record of Buddhistic Kingdoms; being an account by the Chinese monk Fa-Hien of his travels in India and Ceylon, A.D. 399-414, in search of the Buddhist books of discipline. James Legge (trans.). The Clarendon Press, Oxford

1) FROM CH'ANG-GAN TO THE SANDY DESERT
Fa-Hsien had been living in Ch'ang-gan.(1) Deploring the mutilated and imperfect state of the collection of the Books of Discipline, in the second year of the period Hwang-che, being the Ke-hae year of the cycle,(2) he entered into an engagement with Kwuy-king, Tao-ching, Hwuy-ying, and Hwuy-wei,(3) that they should go to India and seek for the Disciplinary Rules

2) CHAPTER VII, CROSSING OF THE INDUS. WHEN BUDDHISM FIRST CROSSED THE RIVER FOR THE EAST icon_rolleyes.gif

The monks(6) asked Fa-Hsien if it could be known when the Law of Buddha first went to the east. He replied, "When I asked the people of those countries about it, they all said that it had been handed down by their fathers from of old that, after the setting up of the image of Maitreya Bodhisattva, there were Sramans of India who crossed this river, carrying with them Sutras and Books of Discipline. Now the image was set up rather more than 300 years after the nirvana(7) of Buddha, which may be referred to the reign of king P'ing of the Chow dynasty.(8) According to this account we may say that the diffusion of our great doctrines (in the east) began from (the setting up of) this image. If it had not been through that Maitreya,(9) the great spiritual master(10) (who is to be) the successor of the Sakya, who could have caused the 'Three Precious Ones'(11) to be proclaimed so far, and the people of those border lands to know our Law? We know of a truth that the opening of (the way for such) a mysterious propagation is not the work of man; and so the dream of the emperor Ming of Han(12) had its proper cause."

3) CHAPTER XXVII, PATALIPUTTRA OR PATNA, IN MAGADHA. KING ASOKA'S SPIRIT-BUILT PALACE AND HALLS.

Having crossed the river, and descended south for a yojana, (the travellers) came to the town of Pataliputtra,(1) in the kingdom of Magadha, the city where king Asoka(2) ruled. The royal palace and halls in the midst of the city, which exist now as of old, were all made by spirits which he employed, and which piled up the stones, reared the walls and gates, and executed the elegant carving and inlaid sculpture-work,—in a way which no human hands of this world could accomplish.

4) CHAPTER XXX, THE SRATAPARNA CAVE, OR CAVE OF THE FIRST COUNCIL.

North of the vihara two or three le there was the Smasanam, which name means in Chinese "the field of graves into which the dead are thrown."(2)As they kept along the mountain on the south, and went west for 300 paces, they found a dwelling among the rocks, named the Pippala cave,(3) in which Buddha regularly sat in meditation after taking his (midday) meal. Going on still to the west for five or six le, on the north of the hill, in the shade, they found the cavern called Srataparna,(4) the place where, after the nirvana(5) of Buddha, 500 Arhats collected the Sutras.

5) CHAPTER XXXVI, IN PATNA. FA-HIEN'S LABOURS IN TRANSCRIPTION OF MANUSCRIPTS, AND INDIAN STUDIES FOR THREE YEARS.

From Varanasi (the travellers) went back east to Pataliputtra. Fa-Hsien's original object had been to search for (copies of) the Vinaya. In the various kingdoms of North India, however, he had found one master transmitting orally (the rules) to another, but no written copies which he could transcribe. He had therefore travelled far and come on to Central India. Here, in the mahayana monastery,(1) he found a copy of the Vinaya, containing the Mahasanghika(2) rules,—those which were observed in the first Great Council, while Buddha was still in the world. The original copy was handed down in the Jetavana vihara. As to the other eighteen schools,(3) each one has the views and decisions of its own masters. Those agree (with this) in the general meaning, but they have small and trivial differences, as when one opens and another shuts.(4) This copy (of the rules), however, is the most complete, with the fullest explanations.(5)

He further got a transcript of the rules in six or seven thousand gathas,(6) being the sarvastivadah(7) rules,—those which are observed by the communities of monks in the land of Ts'in; which also have all been handed down orally from master to master without being committed to writing. In the community here, moreover, we got the Samyuktabhi-dharma-hridaya-(sastra),(8) containing about six or seven thousand gathas; he also got a Sutra of 2500 gathas; one chapter of the Parinir-vana-vaipulya Sutra,(9) of about 5000 gathas; and the Mahasan-ghikah Abhidharma.

In consequence (of this success in his quest) Fa-Hsien stayed here for three years, learning Sanskrit books and the Sanskrit speech, and writing out the Vinaya rules. When Tao-ching arrived in the Central Kingdom, and saw the rules observed by the Sramanas, and the dignified demeanour in their societies which he remarked under all occurring circumstances, he sadly called to mind in what a mutilated and imperfect condition the rules were among the monkish communities in the land of Ts'in, and made the following aspiration:—"From this time forth till I come to the state of Buddha, let me not be born in a frontier land."(10) He remained accordingly (in India), and did not return (to the land of Han). Fa-Hsien, however, whose original purpose had been to secure the introduction of the complete Vinaya rules into the land of Han, returned there alone.

B) (A.D. 602 – 664) The Life of Hiuen-Tsiang. Translated from the Chinese of Shaman (monk) Hwui Li. London. 1911 Beal, Samuel, trans.

1) At this time there was in the convent a Master of the Law, called King, who recited and preached upon the Sutra of the Mrvtoa. Hiuen-Tsiang having got the book, studied it with such zeal that he could neither sleep nor eat. Moreover he studied under the direction of Yen, doctor of the law, the Sdst7'a of the Great Vehicle {Mahdydna Sdstra) ; and thus every day his love for such studies increased. By hearing a book only once, he understood it thoroughly, and after a second reading he needed no further instructions, but remembered it throughout. All the assembly of priests were astonished, and when at their direction he mounted the pulpit, he expounded with precision and clearness the deep principles of Religion to the bottom. The Masters and honourable body of priests listened with attention ; he thus laid the foundation of his renown. At this time he was thirteen years old.

2) It was now the first year of Wu-T6h.^ At this time the country was without regular government, and all the troops were under arms. The books of Confucius, and the sacred pages of Buddha were forgotten, every one was occupied with the arts of war. There were therefore no further religious conferences in the capital, and the Master of the Law was greatly afflicted thereat And now the Master of the Law addressed his brother and said : " There is no religions business being attended to, and we cannot be idle, let us pass into the country of Shuh (Sz'chuen) and pursue our studies."

3) On the day of opening the Eeligious Conference, these men all came together to the place and offered jewels and precious things, as they bowed down and uttered the praises of the Master. And on their return to their several countries they loudly applauded the Master of the Law to their Eulers, saying that he was about to go west- wards to seek the Law in the country of the Brahmans.

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29) The Master of the Law remained with him first and last for two years, and studied a treatise on the difficulties of the Yidya-matra-siddhi ^astra, the I-i4i-lun, the Sitingwu-toai-lun, the ptch-chu-ni-pan-shih-i-yin-un-hm, the chwong-yan-hing-lun ; and he also asked explanations of passages in the Yoga and the Hetuvidy^ ^astras which yet caused him doubt. When this was done he unexpectedly dreamt in the night and saw all the chambers and courts of the Nalanda monastery deserted and foul ; moreover, there were nought but water buffaloes fastened in them, with no priests or followers. The Master of the Law entering through the Western gate of the hall of Baladitya raja, beheld on the top of the four-storeyed pavilion a golden coloured man, of a grave and imposing countenance,
whilst a glorious light shone within the entire abode. His mind was overjoyed, and he wished to ascend to the top, but he found no way to do so ; he then besought
him to reach down and lift him up—^but he replied : "I. am Manjusri Bodhisattva ; your karma does not yet admit of {such a privilege) "—and then pointing to the
outside of the convent, he said : '' Do you see that ? '' The Master of the Law looking in the direction indicated by his finger, saw a fierce fire burning without the convent, and consuming to ashes villages and towns. Then the golden figure said : " You should ^ return soon, for after ten years Siladitya raja will be dead,^ and India be laid waste and in rebellion, wicked men will slaughter one another ; remember these words of mine ! " After he had finished, he disappeared cry.gif

30 ) So towards the end of the Yung Hwei ^ period (i.e, about 654—5, A.D.), Slladitya raja died, and India was subjected to famine and desolation, as had been predicted. The imperial ambassador, Wang-iln-tse, was at this time making ready to be a witness of these things.^ It was now the beginning of the first month. It is in this same month, according to the rules of the Western country, they bring forth from the Bodhi convent (viz., at Gdya) the Sariras of Buddha. Both laymen and priests from all countries come together to witness the spectacle, and to worship. The Master of the Law, therefore, with Jayasena both went to see the relic-bones. These are both great and small. The large ones are like a round pearl, bright and glistening, and of a reddish-white colour. There are also Hesh-relics, large as a bean, and in appearance shining red. An innumerable multitude of disciples offered incense and flowers ; after ascribing praises and offering worship they take (the relics) back and place them in the Tower (stupa). After a little while the light of the lamps in the building was suddenly eclipsed, and within and without there was a supernatural illumination produced. On looking out they saw the relic-tower bright and effulgent as the sun, whilst from its summit proceeded a lambent flame of five colours, reaching to the sky. Heaven and earth were flooded with light, the moon and stars were no longer seen, and a subtle perfume seemed to breathe through and fill the courts and the precincts. Then it was noised abroad, from one to the other, that the sctTiras were exhibiting a mighty miracle. All the
multitude, being cognizant of it, came together, and again offered their adoration, and spoke in rapture of the wonderful sight. By degrees the light grew less and less, and when at the last moment it was about to die out, it seemed to encircle the dome of the tower several times, and then it was absorbed (as it were) within (the tower). And now heaven and earth were again wrapped in darkness, and the different stars once more appeared. All who witnessed this miracle were freed from doubts/ They then paid worship to the Bodhi tree, and also to the sacred vestiges, and eight days having passed they returned once more to the Nalanda monastery. nod.gif

QUOTE(teamjoker @ Sep 23 2018, 02:46 PM)
The real sutras in pali, Sanskrit or chinese? Got english version?
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post Oct 12 2018, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(arenax @ Oct 5 2018, 06:42 PM)
All humans and animals are of different levels of consciousness.

It's a slow progression through many lifetimes.

Layman Buddhist - Vegetarian on 1st and 15th of each month

Even Buddha took how many hundreds of lifetimes to reach his level and you expect to reach Buddhahood in one lifetime?  laugh.gif

During Buddha time, the real monks who have reached at least arhat level don't eat meat.

Most of us can't let go of eating meat because we are still at lower level than arhat or even deva.

Even devas (demi-god) need to be reincarnated because they haven't reach a high enough level.
You might want to read some of the answers below.
https://www.quora.com/Does-eating-meat-lowe...vibration-level
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gautama became buddha not bcos of what he eat n sutra is not a recipe book la ... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
become vegetarian is good for your practice cos can minimise karma energy but cannot become buddha ...

QUOTE(arenax @ Oct 5 2018, 06:34 PM)
LOL.

Different people call it by different terms. Heavenly eyes, spiritual eyes, third eye, pineal gland etc.

It's the spiritual eye that enables one to see the spiritual world, past lives, akashic records etc.

Ghost are just normal human beings who haven't gone into the spiritual world yet, nothing special about them. They are stuck on earth until some spirit brings them back. Their spiritual eyes is not more developed after they die.

Only real psychics or higher evolved humans have their spiritual eyes open.
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the eye name i give u is not different terms, is different type of supernatural power la ....pls google la doh.gif

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post Oct 12 2018, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 4 2018, 01:22 PM)
So respond on the first enquiry.From my personal perspective,I always view all teaching of Buddha as one regardless which section you all adapt(Theravada, Mahayana).Just choose the method suit you most.At the end of period all of
sentient being will reach enlightenment.

Regard on inquiry of shurangama sutra,as I'm not familiar with English terminology in Buddhism, I try to explain with my own own word and support a link for you all as references.

On going to path of enlightenment, for the beginner or even old practicion will face a new type obstacles to go through.Each of us have different type of challenges. While this sutra kidna a mirror and explained details regardless situation we facing.

You may called it book of Dummy to enlightenment path.
The sutra desribe from physical and emotion till consciousness and derive several level like what you u face during meditation state,food,karma and etc

Why it get destroy first?
As the dharma ending  period which we are going right now, a true practitioner getting lesser and lesser.Ppl tend not going a hardships way to achieve certain state.Some easily to give up in middle.Therefore Buddhist practitioner starting suspicious with the guideline highlight in sutra. They doubt that is the effective way and start to reject.


While this declining situation start with you never heard this sutrs name, then doubt it and reject it. Another issues is the mantra state in this sutra which view by realm of MARA as powerful weopan that need to destroy no matter what course.

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actually is not many monk/fatt si follow the teaching of buddhism dharma seal(buddha true teaching) ....
deswai in dharma ending period not many can get enlightenment, or even can reach the stream enterer ....
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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 3 2018, 07:34 PM)
Arahant can be used to refer to any person who has reached the state of Nibbana. In this regard, Sammasambuddho (supreme Buddha), Pacekka Buddha (solitary buddha) and Arahants (disciples of Supreme Buddha) are all Arahants.

Arahant can also be used, most of the time to refer to the disciples of the Supreme Buddha.

Mahayana has a different view though.
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ok.......

QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 3 2018, 07:45 PM)
you just go read and research la , got stark difference between the two in terms of Boddisatta path.
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can explain a bit about bodhisattva path in theravada ??
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QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 12 2018, 09:25 PM)
ok.......
can explain a bit about bodhisattva path in theravada ??
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A boddhisata is a very special wordling (not yet enlightened, but destined for enlightenment) who has received a confirmation from a living Buddha.

In order to become a boddisatta, a person has to fulfill certain prerequisites. I will list those I remember - will find you the link later. Among them, he has to be able to attain the Arahant path at that very life. He must be able to have all the Jhanas, believe in law of Karma, he has to be male, and he has to meet a living Buddha to make his aspiration.

Our Buddha Gotama was an ascetic named Sumedha who met Buddha Dipankara 4 asenkheyas of kappas + 100,000 Aeons ago. He made his aspiration in front of Buddha Dipankara, and he was confirmed as a boddisatta by receiving a confirmation prophecy.

After confirmation, our Buddha went from life to life (meaning born, die, born , die , born die for unimaginably long time) , to practice perfection (10 types of perfection) to highest degree. These perfections, gathered over 4 asenkheyya kappas + 100,000 kappas would eventually enable him to attain Supreme Buddha.

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QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 12 2018, 09:22 PM)
actually is not many monk/fatt si follow the teaching of buddhism dharma seal(buddha true teaching) ....
deswai in dharma ending period not many can get enlightenment, or even can reach the stream enterer ....
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More to turn religion to business line. While those believer keep on going worship them like the highest form. Kinda sad with this problematic happen in all practitioner regardless what teaching/religion around the world.
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this is bhikkhu bodhi perspective on the buddhism ideals surrounding the subjects of arahant, bodhisatva and buddha over the different sects. it is a conciliatory note over the schism of this particular subject.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors...dhisattvas.html


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QUOTE(Michael2020 @ Oct 13 2018, 05:17 PM)
and in Theravada view it is impossible for a Sammasambuddha to save all sentient being. Just like Gotama Buddha and all the previous Supreme Buddha before him...none of them had saved all sentient being or claimed it is a doable thing. None of them postponed their own enlightenment in order to return to this earthly realm to save all sentient being.

Anyone who claimed otherwise is following different path from Gotama Buddha & all the previous Buddha before him.
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actually there 3 thing buddha cant do ...
1. one buddha cannot save all sentient being .........
2. buddha cannot change sentient being karma .....
3. buddha cannot save sentient being that dont belief in buddhism, same like, u cant go a place that is not in your consciousness.

basically buddha dont return to samsara to save sentient being .....
when u reach buddha state of mind, there is "nothing to be obtained" so there is no sentient being to be save .....
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QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 13 2018, 07:08 AM)
More to turn religion to business line. While those believer keep on going worship them like the highest form. Kinda sad with this problematic happen in all practitioner regardless what teaching/religion around the world.
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but one hand cannot clap ....willing buyer, willing seller sad.gif
now is dharma ending period, the only to do is ...persistent n hardworking....
if u wish to go amitabha pureland, then chant more la ... if u like meditation, then sit more la ....
but remember to make more offering to buddha so can get more merit .... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 12 2018, 10:36 PM)
A boddhisata is a very special wordling (not yet enlightened, but destined for enlightenment) who has received a confirmation from a living Buddha.

In order to become a boddisatta, a person has to fulfill certain prerequisites. I will list those I remember - will find you the link later. Among them, he has to be able to attain the Arahant path at that very life. He must be able to have all the Jhanas, believe in law of Karma, he has to be male, and he has to meet a living Buddha to make his aspiration.

Our Buddha Gotama was an ascetic named Sumedha who met Buddha Dipankara 4 asenkheyas of kappas + 100,000 Aeons ago. He made his aspiration in front of Buddha Dipankara, and he was confirmed as a boddisatta by receiving a confirmation prophecy.

After confirmation, our Buddha went from life to life (meaning born, die, born , die , born die for unimaginably long time) , to practice perfection (10 types of perfection) to highest degree. These perfections, gathered over 4 asenkheyya kappas + 100,000 kappas would eventually enable him to attain Supreme Buddha.
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but in mahayana, bodhisattva save sentient being is by using vow .....
eg alokestivara vow to save all sentient being that call him name .....by using sound....
our karma is bcos of our thought, action n speech ....
so if u chant alokestivara name, is like u are tuning the same frequency with him, so there is a connection ...
deswai u can see many mahayana buddhist temple sure got alokestivara statue ....

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1 question. Do you think that people like us able to avoid rebirth?
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Oct 24 2018, 10:10 AM)
1 question. Do you think that people like us able to avoid rebirth?
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In this time while as a living being, it's possible but hard.
But after die and before the next rebirth, we are in a "pure" state that's easier to attain liberation, but most people miss this opportunity and fall into the rebirth.
Nowadays who would spend time to practice and prepare?
Transformation takes very long time and effort.
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QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 23 2018, 11:04 PM)
but one hand cannot clap ....willing buyer, willing seller  sad.gif
now is dharma ending period, the only to do is ...persistent n hardworking....
if u wish to go amitabha pureland, then chant more la ... if u like meditation, then sit more la ....
but remember to make more offering to buddha so can get more merit ....  tongue.gif
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As there is light, dark still exist,so is like balance.
Even during Buddha area, those other sections/believer/religions try to debate, harass, plan to kill Buddha dharma practitioner.

There during dharma ending period, there’s light shine among us.

Accumulated merit with intention end up notthing you could gain. Praise without intend,adopt with pure consciousness is the key.

Many bless
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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 24 2018, 02:12 PM)
I heard stories some people have powers can see buddha on earth. I am not sure whether they are lying or misunderstood other dieties as buddha. U mentioned Buddha dont come back at all to save anyone. When we suffer, we pray for buddha but knowing buddha teaching can help. Praying cannot help? Buddha is not going to response?
Layman here confused thats why ask so many stupid question hope master wont get offended ya.
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They only person who could save you,would be yourself.
Your are Buddha itself with interconnect with each other sentiment being and universes.Is just.you asleep too long and forget the way.

Try to find back the path where Buddha show us.your heart know which is best for you.
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post Oct 24 2018, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 24 2018, 02:12 PM)
I heard stories some people have powers can see buddha on earth. I am not sure whether they are lying or misunderstood other dieties as buddha.

buddha got 3 body, dharmakaya, saṃbhogakaya n nirmṇakaya .....
dharmakaya is 法身, only a very bright light like 1000 sun .... too bright u cant see a thing ...
saṃbhogakaya is 報身, is the buddha statue u see in the temple, got buddha 32 mark....pls google
nirmṇakaya is our historical buddha, sakyamuni buddha .... the next buddha is maitreya buddha ....
so, if there is people who claim can see buddha .... actually is fake .....
first of all, buddha is formless cos buddha is not human/material, is a state of mind....
u cannot see, hear, touch, taste n feel buddha....when u reach the state of stillness of mind, then u only can "connect" with buddha ....
the image in your mind/heart is "not real" cos we are not enlightened being n our mind/heart is always polluted, not 100% pure ..
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U mentioned Buddha dont come back at all to save anyone. When we suffer, we pray for buddha but knowing buddha teaching can help. Praying cannot help? Buddha is not going to response?
Layman here confused thats why ask so many stupid question hope master wont get offended ya.

buddha save sentient being is not in physically form, is by using vow ....
buddha is everywhere, u just need to make the "connection" ...simple word = practice n do meditation la ... tongue.gif
U never hear this b4 .....
if human got problem, they ask buddha for help ....
so if buddha got problem who should buddha ask for help ??? Ask buddha la........answer = ask yourself la  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
no one can help u if u dont help yourself  bruce.gif  bruce.gif


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This post has been edited by will4848: Oct 24 2018, 03:37 PM
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post Oct 24 2018, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(viex @ Oct 24 2018, 02:30 PM)
In this time while as a living being, it's possible but hard.
But after die and before the next rebirth, we are in a "pure" state that's easier to attain liberation, but most people miss this opportunity and fall into the rebirth.
Nowadays who would spend time to practice and prepare?
Transformation takes very long time and effort.
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That correct. From a normal sentiment being to reach enlightenment, is take eon period of years. But when you follow back the truth path, at least you shorter the gap.

Is not your forget, is just those memory embedded too deep,while the current you submerge with this lifetime memory.

Due those world entightment,of coz with out own need and desire, choosing path of practicion become challenge for major being.

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