It's not about memory but the attachment
purify oneself everyday for a very long period of time then one day will reach liberation.
Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please
Group LYN Buddhism Retreat - SERIOUS TALK, No trolling please
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 03:06 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#2001
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
249 posts Joined: Jan 2017 From: KL |
It's not about memory but the attachment
purify oneself everyday for a very long period of time then one day will reach liberation. |
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 03:09 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(viex @ Oct 24 2018, 02:30 PM) In this time while as a living being, it's possible but hard. then u learn vajrayana buddhism la ... they got teach u how to meditate to bypass rebirth....But after die and before the next rebirth, we are in a "pure" state that's easier to attain liberation, but most people miss this opportunity and fall into the rebirth. Nowadays who would spend time to practice and prepare? Transformation takes very long time and effort. if u are good, u even can become instant buddha when u are in intermediate state but until now never heard anyone of them achieve this ... This post has been edited by will4848: Oct 24 2018, 03:10 PM |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 03:14 PM
Show posts by this member only | IPv6 | Post
#2003
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
249 posts Joined: Jan 2017 From: KL |
When you have rainbow body, then it's good enough, no need even to enter the bardo state, haha...
some people reach rainbow body state by just chanting om mani pehmeh hom whole life, dunno true or not. |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 08:46 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 24 2018, 02:55 PM) As there is light, dark still exist,so is like balance. pure consciousness only can achieve when u are in samadhi .....Even during Buddha area, those other sections/believer/religions try to debate, harass, plan to kill Buddha dharma practitioner. There during dharma ending period, there’s light shine among us. Accumulated merit with intention end up notthing you could gain. Praise without intend,adopt with pure consciousness is the key. Many bless Nano buddhay how many people u know can reach this state ?? .... there are 2 type of merit, one is "fook tuck" another one is "kung tuck" ..... law of causality ..... every cause there must be an effect with the right condition ..... so every offering to buddha sure got merit one but is fook tuck not kung tuck ... but u can transfer your this fook tuck merit to ten direction all sentient being ma .... then your fook tuck will become kung tuck .... this one call "sam lun tei hung" ma .... no one make offering, no one receive offering n nothing to be offer .... |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 08:54 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
216 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 24 2018, 08:46 PM) pure consciousness only can achieve when u are in samadhi ..... You get some point on this, while based on the statement you mention,how many people u know can reach this state ?? .... there are 2 type of merit, one is "fook tuck" another one is "kung tuck" ..... law of causality ..... every cause there must be an effect with the right condition ..... so every offering to buddha sure got merit one but is fook tuck not kung tuck ... but u can transfer your this fook tuck merit to ten direction all sentient being ma .... then your fook tuck will become kung tuck .... this one call "sam lun tei hung" ma .... no one make offering, no one receive offering n nothing to be offer .... did you experience yourself and conclude the answer? While the merit part, i just remember the conversation between Bodhidharma(达摩)and Emperor Liang (梁武帝) on this topic. Quite interesting and may become source of learning. |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 09:15 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 24 2018, 08:54 PM) You get some point on this, while based on the statement you mention, This post has been edited by will4848: Oct 24 2018, 09:15 PMdid you experience yourself and conclude the answer? actually .. no. this fook tuck n kung tuck in intangible thing, how to experience it ? While the merit part, i just remember the conversation between Bodhidharma(达摩)and Emperor Liang (梁武帝) on this topic. Quite interesting and may become source of learning. Bodhidharma say, even Emperor Liang built so many temple n make offering to monk also dont have any kung tuck ..... but bodhidharma say this bcos emperor liang attached to the merit ma .... btw built temple n offering to monk is fook tuck n not kung tuck ma ..... that is the difference between kung tuck n fook tuck ma .... so the key word is ... attached to merit .... deswai i say, transfer all you merit to ten direction all sentient being |
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 09:25 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
|
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 09:42 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 24 2018, 09:28 PM) then when u go temple try to make light offering to buddha/kuan yin la ....u can google the benefit of light offering to buddha .... or the best is that u chant the diamond sutra or heart sutra ... these are prajna paramita sutra, chanting this sutra can have immeasurable merit ... |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 09:56 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 24 2018, 08:54 PM) You get some point on this, while based on the statement you mention, “Furthermore, Subhuti, in the practice of compassion and charity a disciple should be detached. That is to say, he should practice compassion and charity without regard to appearances, without regard to form, without regard to sound, smell, taste, touch, or any quality of any kind. Subhuti, this is how the disciple should practice compassion and charity. Why? Because practicing compassion and charity without attachment is the way to reaching the Highest Perfect Wisdom, it is the way to becoming a living Buddha.”did you experience yourself and conclude the answer? While the merit part, i just remember the conversation between Bodhidharma(达摩)and Emperor Liang (梁武帝) on this topic. Quite interesting and may become source of learning. “Subhuti, do you think that you can measure all of the space in the Eastern Heavens?” “No, Most Honored One. One cannot possibly measure all of the space in the Eastern Heavens.” “Subhuti, can space in all the Western, Southern, and Northern Heavens, both above and below, be measured?” “No, Most Honored One. One cannot possibly measure all the space in the Western, Southern, and Northern Heavens.” “Well, Subhuti, the same is true of the merit of the disciple who practices compassion and charity without any attachment to appearances, without cherishing any idea of form. It is impossible to measure the merit they will accrue. Subhuti, my disciples should let their minds absorb and dwell in the teachings I have just given.” this one from diamond sutra chapter 4 .... |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 10:00 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 24 2018, 09:43 PM) burn candle or lamp la .... some temple got sell or u can buy from those selling incense shop la ....just now u say some people got power to see buddha ....u can read this .... QUOTE “Subhuti, what do you think? Can the Buddha be recognized by means of his bodily form?” “No, Most Honored One, the Buddha cannot be recognized by means of his bodily form. Why? Because when the Buddha speaks of bodily form, it is not a real form, but only an illusion.” The Buddha then spoke to Subhuti: “All that has a form is illusive and unreal. When you see that all forms are illusive and unreal, then you will begin to perceive your true Buddha nature.” diamond sutra chapter 5 This post has been edited by will4848: Oct 24 2018, 10:09 PM |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 10:06 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 24 2018, 10:01 PM) then just chant the heart sutra at home la ..... merit is immeasurable....QUOTE “Let me ask you Subhuti? If a person filled over ten thousand galaxies with the seven treasures for the purpose of compassion, charity, and giving alms, would this person not gain great merit and spread much happiness?” “Yes, Most Honored One. This person would gain great merit and spread much happiness, even though, in truth, this person does not have a separate existence to which merit could accrue. Why? Because this person’s merit is characterized with the quality of not being merit.” The Buddha continued, “Then suppose another person understood only four lines of this Sutra, but nevertheless took it upon themselves to explain these lines to someone else. This person’s merit would be even greater than the other person’s. Why? Because all Buddhas and all the teachings and values of the highest, most fulfilled, most awakened minds arise from the teachings in this Sutra. And yet, even as I speak, Subhuti, I must take back my words as soon as they are uttered, for there are no Buddhas and there are no teachings.” diamond sutra chapter 8 This post has been edited by will4848: Oct 24 2018, 10:07 PM |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 11:04 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
216 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 24 2018, 09:56 PM) “Furthermore, Subhuti, in the practice of compassion and charity a disciple should be detached. That is to say, he should practice compassion and charity without regard to appearances, without regard to form, without regard to sound, smell, taste, touch, or any quality of any kind. Subhuti, this is how the disciple should practice compassion and charity. Why? Because practicing compassion and charity without attachment is the way to reaching the Highest Perfect Wisdom, it is the way to becoming a living Buddha.” yes, just finsih recite this sutra just now.“Subhuti, do you think that you can measure all of the space in the Eastern Heavens?” “No, Most Honored One. One cannot possibly measure all of the space in the Eastern Heavens.” “Subhuti, can space in all the Western, Southern, and Northern Heavens, both above and below, be measured?” “No, Most Honored One. One cannot possibly measure all the space in the Western, Southern, and Northern Heavens.” “Well, Subhuti, the same is true of the merit of the disciple who practices compassion and charity without any attachment to appearances, without cherishing any idea of form. It is impossible to measure the merit they will accrue. Subhuti, my disciples should let their minds absorb and dwell in the teachings I have just given.” this one from diamond sutra chapter 4 .... actually i understand what to try to say, regard the merit thing. You can;t see the accumulation, but based of personnel experience your could feel it. You could justify with your current outlook, health, career, the ambition you working too and most important is one of life saving key when you face near death situation. pursuit the recite or chant buddha name as you say, as this is whole life journey. Focus your inner mind and your consciousness. |
|
|
Oct 24 2018, 11:08 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
216 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(teamjoker @ Oct 24 2018, 10:01 PM) There Buddhist story regard a person cut hair as offering to light a lamp, while repay back with unmeasured fortune in coming future. Is the intend of emptiness and sincere during you perform good action That why during Buddha time,practice alms giving which offer the poor choice to accumulate deeds. The more you give the more you receive. This post has been edited by nash_ph_41: Oct 25 2018, 03:31 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
Oct 28 2018, 11:43 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
216 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
The First Sermon
This post has been edited by nash_ph_41: Dec 15 2018, 11:01 PM |
|
|
Oct 29 2018, 06:25 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 24 2018, 11:04 PM) yes, just finsih recite this sutra just now. actually still cannot feel it cos karma take very long time to take effect, even next life or many life later ....actually i understand what to try to say, regard the merit thing. You can;t see the accumulation, but based of personnel experience your could feel it. You could justify with your current outlook, health, career, the ambition you working too and most important is one of life saving key when you face near death situation. pursuit the recite or chant buddha name as you say, as this is whole life journey. Focus your inner mind and your consciousness. in vajrayana sect, they say karma need to take 3 years to take effect or 1000 times of practice ... eg, let say u chant yellow jambala mantra for fortune...... u must everyday chant, maybe let say, 108 times/day for 1000 times .... that mean about 3 years la, for it to take effect (365 x 3 = 1095 days = 1095 times ) actually i dont practice chant buddha name or the pureland ... but i do chant heart sutra n the great compassion dharani everyday .... im more on the yogacara, learning the diamond sutra n heart sutra ..... |
|
|
Oct 29 2018, 06:44 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
216 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 29 2018, 06:25 AM) actually still cannot feel it cos karma take very long time to take effect, even next life or many life later .... This is good, keep it up, this is part of practice. I'm uphold the sutra the which you practice too.in vajrayana sect, they say karma need to take 3 years to take effect or 1000 times of practice ... eg, let say u chant yellow jambala mantra for fortune...... u must everyday chant, maybe let say, 108 times/day for 1000 times .... that mean about 3 years la, for it to take effect (365 x 3 = 1095 days = 1095 times ) actually i dont practice chant buddha name or the pureland ... but i do chant heart sutra n the great compassion dharani everyday .... im more on the yogacara, learning the diamond sutra n heart sutra ..... Since you already have heart sutra and great compassion mantra,why not add up another one to Become complete set? Sutra name :the-lotus-sutras-universal-gate-chapter-on-avalokitesvara-bodhisattva (普門品) Each section of practice have their own definition, as I not practicing it, so don't have much comment on this. For the beginner there is a lot obstacles forbid us to continue this path. A lot of monkey mind to ask us delay the practice, no need to recite everyday. Seem like is kind of mind training to alter our behavior. As perfect practice make perfect, this monkey mind get tamer,while you move another step. The more you uphold,u could notice something changes around you. And one more key of this practice foundation. No matter which section you are, 5 moral of precepts is a must. This is last word leave by Buddha himself before enter to mahanivarna. |
|
|
Oct 29 2018, 07:25 AM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 29 2018, 06:44 AM) This is good, keep it up, this is part of practice. I'm uphold the sutra the which you practice too. Since you already have heart sutra and great compassion mantra,why not add up another one to Become complete set? Sutra name :the-lotus-sutras-universal-gate-chapter-on-avalokitesvara-bodhisattva (普門品) actually i chant the heart sutra bcos i want to learn more about sunyata .... without understanding the sunyata, u can even become an arahant .... and learning buddhism take a many many life time to learn.... so by chanting heart sutra everyday, so i can plant more seed in my consciousness ma n can become a habit .... once u change all your habit to good habit then u can start to change your destiny ... hopefully next life still can continue to learn, no matter where i go ... Each section of practice have their own definition, as I not practicing it, so don't have much comment on this. For the beginner there is a lot obstacles forbid us to continue this path. A lot of monkey mind to ask us delay the practice, no need to recite everyday. Seem like is kind of mind training to alter our behavior. actually chanting n meditation is different .... chanting is concentration, concentrate on, let say, buddha name, chant until there is nothing in the mind, just only the buddha name ... meditation is stillness of mind, u practice to "let go" deswai they call it samadhi .... but both also is a type of mind training ..... As perfect practice make perfect, this monkey mind get tamer,while you move another step. The more you uphold,u could notice something changes around you. And one more key of this practice foundation. No matter which section you are, 5 moral of precepts is a must. This is last word leave by Buddha himself before enter to mahanivarna. sila, samadhi, and panna is a must, is the threefold training in buddhism |
|
|
Oct 29 2018, 09:01 AM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
216 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 29 2018, 07:25 AM) Haha, used back reverse engineering method to revalue what you are today,because of past you put a lot of seed ,and this lifetime you proceed back same road,make sense?Our consciousness is our jewel of knowledge which waiting us to open it. No matter which path we choose, there is only 1 road. Escape this samsara life wheel. Many bless. |
|
|
Oct 29 2018, 09:34 PM
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Senior Member
6,596 posts Joined: Sep 2010 From: DONT KNOW |
QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Oct 29 2018, 09:01 AM) Haha, used back reverse engineering method to revalue what you are today,because of past you put a lot of seed ,and this lifetime you proceed back same road,make sense? actually mantra is for us to "use", sutra is for us to "learn" n u chant buddha name is to make a "connection" ....Our consciousness is our jewel of knowledge which waiting us to open it. No matter which path we choose, there is only 1 road. Escape this samsara life wheel. Many bless. without sutra how u going to learn buddhism in the next life ?? if only u can born in maitreya buddha time la ....but this need immeasurable merit .... becos the 8th consciousness is the one going to reincarnate deswai we must put only good thing in it ..... what else is better than putting a diamond sutra or heart sutra in it ??? remember the last part of heart sutra say .... QUOTE All Buddhas of the three periods of time attain Anuttara-samyak-sambodhi through reliance on Prajna Paramita. Therefore know that Prajna Paramita is a Great Spiritual Mantra, a Great Bright Mantra, a Supreme Mantra, an Unequalled Mantra. It can remove all suffering; it is genuine and not false. meaning.... past, present n future buddha, all also learn prajna paramita to becum a buddha ... remember the buddha say in the diamond sutra about the four line stanza ..... QUOTE “Let me ask you Subhuti? If a person filled over ten thousand galaxies with the seven treasures for the purpose of compassion, charity, and giving alms, would this person not gain great merit and spread much happiness?” “Yes, Most Honored One. This person would gain great merit and spread much happiness, even though, in truth, this person does not have a separate existence to which merit could accrue. Why? Because this person’s merit is characterized with the quality of not being merit.” The Buddha continued, “Then suppose another person understood only four lines of this Sutra, but nevertheless took it upon themselves to explain these lines to someone else. This person’s merit would be even greater than the other person’s. Why? Because all Buddhas and all the teachings and values of the highest, most fulfilled, most awakened minds arise from the teachings in this Sutra. And yet, even as I speak, Subhuti, I must take back my words as soon as they are uttered, for there are no Buddhas and there are no teachings.” diamond sutra chapter 8 actually the 4 line stanza is 身空, 心空, 法空 n 性空 n all this also in the heart sutra .... so by chanting the heart sutra or diamond sutra, u will have many "invisible friend" listening to u ....so this is immeasurable merit ..... |
|
|
Oct 30 2018, 12:37 PM
|
![]() ![]()
Junior Member
216 posts Joined: Aug 2007 |
QUOTE(will4848 @ Oct 29 2018, 09:34 PM) actually mantra is for us to "use", sutra is for us to "learn" n u chant buddha name is to make a "connection" .... This is great talk, keep it up this spirit, may you fruitful throughout this journey.without sutra how u going to learn buddhism in the next life ?? if only u can born in maitreya buddha time la ....but this need immeasurable merit .... becos the 8th consciousness is the one going to reincarnate deswai we must put only good thing in it ..... what else is better than putting a diamond sutra or heart sutra in it ??? remember the last part of heart sutra say .... meaning.... past, present n future buddha, all also learn prajna paramita to becum a buddha ... remember the buddha say in the diamond sutra about the four line stanza ..... actually the 4 line stanza is 身空, 心空, 法空 n 性空 n all this also in the heart sutra .... so by chanting the heart sutra or diamond sutra, u will have many "invisible friend" listening to u ....so this is immeasurable merit ..... Many bless |
| Change to: | 0.0252sec
0.53
6 queries
GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 28th November 2025 - 09:36 AM |