The more games that he plays, the better it is for us at this early stage. Just hope he doesn't get injured. We don't need him in the early part of the season with Berba, Hernandez and Owen around.

Hernandez is playing Spain right now right? Crap. Why do they have these friendlies just before the start of the season?

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Added on August 12, 2010, 4:17 amHernandez scored against Spain!
Hot..

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Added on August 12, 2010, 4:26 amRooney subbed off at the 66th min. England losing 0-1





This post has been edited by Wan: Aug 12 2010, 04:26 AM

Good goal. No Spanish defenders near him when he got through there. Low through ball, Vela offside, but didn't chase and Hernandez(was miles ONSIDE) was clear through. Ball went to the left of him, took a touch to the right, and instead of taking it past Cassilas, shot low to the left of the goal.. Was a small space between Cassilas and the post to hit it, but he did it. Now I'm excited!
France, Spain, Argentina, Us, Chelsea. 3 months. Not bad.

Rooney could be on and off or misfire. Not saying we absolutely don't need him, but we can do well without him. Berba-Anyone of the two would do well or Macheda even. Newcastle home, Fulham away, West Ham at home, Everton, Liverpool.. we can get away in the first 3 games. After that we might need him. But I want to see how Hernandez does in the league. If he keeps on scoring goals, it would be hard not to play him.

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Added on August 12, 2010, 5:07 amWE BOUGHT ANOTHER STRIKER!



http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6651318

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Added on August 12, 2010, 5:08 amGill with him..
http://picsrv.manutd.com/?fif=/manu/img_10...iip,1.0&wid=500

This post has been edited by Wan: Aug 12 2010, 05:08 AM

We sign Obertan and Valencia last season while Cleverley was on loan. Those players are still at the club and we're keeping Cleverley. And besides, this guy is basically an unknown. Was playing god knows where who only 5 weeks back signed for a 3rd div Portuguese team, and now here he is.

Campbell relied too much on his pace.

Welbeck got the complete package.. except for his strength. But he's already stronger this time around compared to last.

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Added on August 12, 2010, 7:04 amEven if someone like Wenger have a pair of the worlds best eyes/glasses, and he is a great judge of talented kids, there's still no guarantee what he thinks those kids will become in the future will become true.

Bellion, Dong, Rossi, Manucho, Macheda, Diouf, Chicharito and now Bebe.
Won't be the first and last time we would sign an unknown. Maybe only about one in 10-50 would turn out to be stars or good enough to contribute to the team, but signing a proven star doesn't guarantee it would be a success either. So clubs will always take a chance if they see a talent.

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Added on August 12, 2010, 7:09 amCompilation.. may not just be a striker. Seems to have a good vision..

http://videos.sapo.pt/qAIGilBf7mdtNCLDaW6p

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This post has been edited by Wan: Aug 12 2010, 07:20 AM

He's like the modern forward from the vids. Can play out wide or in the middle. All rounder. Very raw though.

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Added on August 12, 2010, 7:53 amHe's only 20? He is huge.

This post has been edited by Wan: Aug 12 2010, 07:53 AM

There's a difference between signing a potential player, and someone who would go straight into the lineup. Bebe is the former while Ozil would be the latter. When he said he has enough, it's for the latter types. And as for potential, if we see a good one, we would take a punt. Not sure what our strategy is. Manucho, Tosic.. we sign them, hardly play for us, and sell them off for a small profit. Diouf might fall under the same category, IMO at least. If it doesn't have a big affect, I see no problem with the strategy. Might make us some money, and maybe we can unearth a gem now and then. Just wonder why we didn't sign Ljajic.. because since then we got Obertan(4m), and now this Bebe(7.5m) for similar fees.

And we can never trust SAF when it comes to transfer. He probably enjoy seeing the journalists and fans alike surprised and confused that we signed a nobody for 7.5m pounds for a position that we don't need. In any case it looks like this Bebe could turn out as anything playing in the attacking third. Wide, middle. He looks very raw, and I don't think he will feature that much, unless he is special. Doesn't look like one.. yet.

SAF see things differently than most of us. We have to look at the squad and first 11. Do we really need a big name? Our first 11 is strong as it is right now and so is the squad. We've been crying out for the same thing, but he almost did nothing about it. We got Ando of course, and maybe he's just waiting for him to ripe.. along with Gibson. We still have time with Scholes and Giggs around.

That creative midfielder. Problem is, apart from a few games, we don't utilize an AM. Sneijder, VDV, Ozil.. they play in advanced position behind the striker just ahead of the CMs. We don't play that way that often. Last season Ando play it against Chelsea away, and Park in the Milan games. But apart from those, it's a 433/442. That's why we don't look at a VDV/Sneijder IMO. Heck, look at Ando. He was an AM or someone that play in an attacking position. But we turned him into a deep lying midfielder almost.


442 no need to explain. 433.. 3 CMs alongside each other is what we usually play.

Runner-Sitter-3rdCM

The runner.. trying to do all sort of stuff up and down the pitch.

The sitter.. sitting in the middle giving balance and controlling the possession and spreading play.

And that 3rd CM.. where whoever plays hopefully will come up with something extra. A goal, a creative element whatever(Ando/Gibson)

We might not play all those types, but at least 2 of those is certain of their places. Carrick/Scholes and Fletcher. So it's up to the other CM to bring something extra to the table.

And the transfer season ain't over yet. We might well sign Ozil in the coming weeks. Cheap, good and we made a move for him before he joined Bremen a few years back so definitely we know a lot about him. But as always, if we don't get him or anyone else, it doesn't mean a thing.

Ando, Gibson..
James on loan, Pogba in reserve

And he's not just a striker from the clips. Could well play out wide. Not that we needed any of those.

Too early to tell whether we've gone the Wenger route. Money is there if we need it. We're just being reasonable with it. And to be fair to the club, we don't need to add a 20-30m player. There is a hole in the side regarding Scholes, but Carrick on form, and the likes of Ando and Gibson growing up will be able to fill it in time. And we've never really been a big spender outside of the league. There was Stam, Ruud, Veron.. but apart from those majority is from the EPL itself. It will be interesting to see what we do when the time comes to replace VDS.

VDS
Rafael-Vida-Evans-Evra
Valencia-Carrick-Fletcher-Nani(Ando)
Rooney-Berba(Chicharito!)

Smalling is a 2-4 seasons project.. this season would be too early to judge. Looks to have the tools. Just now hoping the mental side will adapt to the way we defend and how he's supposed to do at specific times. See any young defenders apart from Evans, and you'd find the same kind of weaknesses. Rio got the same kind of tag, although he was rated far higher back then.

I just want to hear what SAF have to say on the new signing. Nanny, Bebe.. I bet sheep knew this all along.
Wonder if he's going out on loan, or be part of the squad.. hmm.

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This post has been edited by Wan: Aug 12 2010, 08:21 PM

Found these:
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread....1514628&page=30



Hmm..
So a player who can play 11-10-7

So he was part of a squad in the top flight a few seasons back. Got relegated because of financial problems, forced to play the young ones since I bet many players left, he got his chance then, impresses people, got a move back to a top flight team, impresses in pre-season games, and here he is..

Err Welbeck and Diouf? Have they failed us or something?

Just wait till Welbeck have the body the half the size of Bebe. He will rule the world!

Hmm.. when do we play Bolton? Anyone wanna bet he's going to be on the bench with a maggie stuck on his hair and come on in the 2nd half to help us win comfortably?

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Added on August 13, 2010, 7:04 pmArrg.. Sept 25, Bolton away.

Change to WBA, Oct 16 at home.

This post has been edited by Wan: Aug 13 2010, 07:04 PM

His old club was once in the top division. Financial problems, got relegated to 3rd Div in 08/09 and stayed there last year too? They sign him somwhere in between those where he was a regular last season. Then 5 weeks back a team in the top division bought him for a very cheap price. He impressed in pre-season friendlies with lots of scouts present.. and there was 4 clubs who was interested or made a bid for him according to the president including us with one 'rumoured' to be Real Madrid. He chose us over the others.

Might not watch their games too much unless I have nothing else to do, but would follow their club's results and read the forums now and then to see the reactions. Welbeck at Sunderland, James and King at Preston definitely would be fun. Diouf might spring a surprise as well. Although he's a bit hit and miss, but his pace and the way he always look to run in behind will get him a few goals.

Read that Sunderland wants Bellamy. Onuoha(?) already left on loan to join Sunderland.