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Riddhy
post Oct 27 2010, 06:21 AM

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yeah i missed pos laju will pick it up today tell me what settings to change in windows 7 and bios

by the way new egg is selling ocz vertex 2 240gb at usd 399 after 20 usd mail in rebate which like rm 1300 here it costs rm 2199 to 2499!!! why dont the distros here update price every week like US distro they change it every 3 to 4 months
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post Oct 27 2010, 06:42 AM

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QUOTE(everling @ Oct 26 2010, 10:53 AM)
If you would be happy with an SSD performing just a little better than a HDD, then any decent SSD will do as they will all easily outperform the Velociraptor. Since RM/GB is a main concern, you should consider Kingston's V Series 128GB (product no: SNV425-S2/128GB). I bought one from Viewnet in cash for RM780, otherwise it was supposed to be RM799 then.

For reference, here's a simple price analysis, but it is two months old and didn't list Viewnet.
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QUOTE(wiraone @ Oct 26 2010, 11:11 AM)
Thanks both of you .. and thanks everling for the price analysis, very helpful indeed. One last thing, do I need to worry about that TRIM thingy if I set the SSD as the only storage for my carpc? Ronaldjoe has the 64GB for RM360 and it seems so tempting .. is there any differences between the 64GB and 128GB other than the capacity? the link given by everling seems to suggest that they're on different controller (or probably enhanced one?). Haha.. now me seems to be picky .. but if the Kingston V 64GB should be fine, I'll go for it..


Added on October 26, 2010, 11:55 amUpdate: Booked the 64GB KingstonV already .. smile.gif
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 6 2010, 05:36 PM)
eh still a lousy value series
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post Oct 27 2010, 11:23 AM

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Price Update from OCZ

OCZ Vertex 2 EX

OCZSSD2-2VTX40G = RM470
OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G = RM620
OCZSSD2-2VTXE90G = RM840
OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G = RM960
OCZSSD2-2VTXE180G = RM1700
OCZSSD2-2VTXE240G = RM1950

http://www.ocztechnology.com/res/manuals/O...oduct_sheet.pdf
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/soli...i-2-5--ssd.html

OCZ ONYX

OCZSSD2-10NX32G = RM300
OCZSSD2-10NX64G = RM480

http://www.ocztechnology.com/res/manuals/O...oduct_sheet.pdf

This post has been edited by marcus20125: Oct 27 2010, 11:03 PM
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post Oct 27 2010, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(marcus20125 @ Oct 27 2010, 11:23 AM)
Price Update from OCZ

OCZ Vertex 2 EX

OCZSSD2-2VTX40G = RM470
OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G = RM620
OCZSSD2-2VTXE90G = RM840
OCZSSD2-2VTXE120G = RM960
OCZSSD2-2VTXE180G = RM1700
OCZSSD2-2VTXE240G = RM1950

OCZ ONYX

OCZSSD2-10NX32G = RM300
OCZSSD2-10NX64G = RM480
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pls note that the *VTXE* model numbers is not vertex 2 EX series

*VTXEX* is the model numbers for Vertex 2 EX series

and your prices for the Vertex 2 is abit higher than the retail

This post has been edited by jinaun: Oct 27 2010, 05:46 PM
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post Oct 27 2010, 05:15 PM

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I've had the x25-m for 2 weeks now, installed into my laptop...I have to say, it's the best upgrade that I've done so far...

earlier i've had doubts, with regards to the reliability, trim/ahci activation, etc etc...in the 1st week, but after that, it's like normal....and the speed actually compensates all the doubts on ssds that I had earlier....

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Oct 27 2010, 02:31 PM)
pls note that the *VTXE* model numbers is not vertex 2 EX series

*VTXEX* is the model numbers for Vertex 2 EX series

and your prices for the Vertex 2  is abit higher than the retail
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yalor, also notice this in garage sales some sellers advertise em as Vertex2 EX. rclxub.gif
Something wrong at distro's catalogue

QUOTE(ravewar @ Oct 27 2010, 05:15 PM)
I've had the x25-m for 2 weeks now, installed into my laptop...I have to say, it's the best upgrade that I've done so far...

earlier i've had doubts, with regards to the reliability, trim/ahci activation, etc etc...in the 1st week, but after that, it's like normal....and the speed actually compensates all the doubts on ssds that I had earlier....
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u wont go wrong with Intel SSD thumbup.gif
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post Oct 27 2010, 06:59 PM

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tmr i will install vertex 2 60 gb in my laptop any tips?

what do u guys think after 1 yr will 480 gb ssds cost become 200 to 250 usd?
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Oct 27 2010, 06:59 PM)
tmr i will install vertex 2 60 gb in my laptop any tips?

what do u guys think after 1 yr will 480 gb ssds cost become 200 to 250 usd?
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it will come down

but difficult to predict exactly.. but according to moore's law... semicon prices should be 50% cheaper every 18 months

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post Oct 27 2010, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Oct 27 2010, 02:31 PM)
pls note that the *VTXE* model numbers is not vertex 2 EX series

*VTXEX* is the model numbers for Vertex 2 EX series

and your prices for the Vertex 2  is abit higher than the retail
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sorry as i not familiar with SSD

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/soli...i-2-5--ssd.html

but according to this page,the part number does exist

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/soli...-2-5--ssd-.html

btw,what is the different between this two,some one do clarify it
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post Oct 27 2010, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Oct 27 2010, 06:59 PM)
tmr i will install vertex 2 60 gb in my laptop any tips?

what do u guys think after 1 yr will 480 gb ssds cost become 200 to 250 usd?
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Copied from my thread:


How to set up AHCI:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


How to check TRIM in Windows 7:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Added on:
Use Acronis True Image to clone:
http://www.acronis.co.uk/promo/ATIH2011/AT...CFUJB6wodcXb-iQ

You don't need to install anything. Everything would be the same as your previous drive.

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QUOTE(marcus20125 @ Oct 27 2010, 11:07 PM)
sorry as i not familiar with SSD

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/soli...i-2-5--ssd.html

but according to this page,the part number does exist

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/soli...-2-5--ssd-.html

btw,what is the different between this two,some one do clarify it
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Vertex2 EX - SLC
Vertex2 - MLC
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SLC vs MLC

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Riddhy
post Oct 27 2010, 11:51 PM

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480 currently is usd 1150 so after 18 months usd 575 darn it
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post Oct 28 2010, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 27 2010, 06:42 AM)
[bunch of quotes that lyn won't pyramid for]
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Lousy is relative.

In my experience, building a huge application from source code on a Samsung F3 1TB took me six plus hours. Then I later got another Kingston SSD and then move the build process into there. The new build time on the otherwise same machine? Three plus hours.

And then later I got a brand new i5 laptop and moved the same Kingston SSD onto it to do the same job. The time taken? Two plus hours.

What this means is that I got a much bigger performance improvement from a "lousy value series" than I would have putting down money to upgrade my Phenom II X3 for an i5.

On a cost/GB ratio and for the capacity given, while being a "lousy value series", it still has significant value for people upgrading from HDDs.
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post Oct 28 2010, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Oct 28 2010, 06:21 PM)
Lousy is relative.
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On a cost/GB ratio and for the capacity given, while being a "lousy value series", it still has significant value for people upgrading from HDDs.
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I would say that I'm totally agree with you on this one. As per my requirement, I don't really want a speedy SSD, what I want is a replacement storage for my carpc. 64GB is I believe good enough since from the 320GB HD that I've right now, only 20GB is used up and the reason why I wanted an SSD is because I've previously had HDD failed on me and the current one showing the same symptom. With no-moving part in SSD, it will surely helps me a lot.

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post Oct 28 2010, 10:53 PM

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hey guys i m currently using ocz vertex 2 60 gb as a boot and 2+yr old western digital scorpio 320gb as a storage drive in my laptop.

Boot time is longer after i installed the ssd why is that? also i did a clean install of windows by dvd drive installation took around 25~30 mins??

i am running in ahci modei enabled in bios my chipset is pm965 it supports sata 2 so why am i not seeing any gain?

do i need to update any firmware?
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post Oct 29 2010, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Oct 28 2010, 10:53 PM)
hey guys i m currently using ocz vertex 2 60 gb  as a boot and 2+yr old western digital scorpio 320gb as a storage drive in my laptop.

Boot time is longer after i installed the ssd why is that? also i did a clean install of windows by dvd drive installation took around 25~30 mins??

i am running in ahci modei enabled in bios my chipset is pm965 it supports sata 2  so why am i not seeing any gain?

do i need to update any firmware?
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With SSD, win7 installation should be 10+ min.
Please check your ssd firmware, latest is 1.11 ver.

What AHCI driver did you use? Some is crappy.


Added on October 29, 2010, 6:04 am
QUOTE(wiraone @ Oct 28 2010, 08:08 PM)
I would say that I'm totally agree with you on this one. As per my requirement, I don't really want a speedy SSD, what I want is a replacement storage for my carpc. 64GB is I believe good enough since from the 320GB HD that I've right now, only 20GB is used up and the reason why I wanted an SSD is because I've previously had HDD failed on me and the current one showing the same symptom. With no-moving part in SSD, it will surely helps me a lot.
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Same case applies to me. My HTPC failed 3 times in a year bcoz of crappy hdds from Seagate.
I just need peace of mind.


Added on October 29, 2010, 6:09 am
QUOTE(Casval_Hyakushiki @ Aug 23 2010, 02:10 PM)
Video that I found on YouTube shows the comparison of Windows 7 start-up time with boot drive using the SSD and HDD..

I've been thinking about replacing the HDD boot drive on my PC with SSD.. But SSD's price is quite expensive, makes me have to think again.. Ouch.. sad.gif
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I just saw this. This video is quite entertaining. LOLz

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post Oct 29 2010, 08:24 AM

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my firmware 1.11 but ocz vertex 2 current firmware is 1.23

what do u mean which ahci driver i used?

i eanabled ahci in the bios only

win 7 installation from dvd disc will also take 10 mins?

plz hlp
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OCZ Launches RevoDrive X2 PCI-Express SSD Drive brows.gif
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post Oct 30 2010, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 27 2010, 11:22 PM)
Copied from my thread:
How to set up AHCI:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


How to check TRIM in Windows 7:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Added on:
Use Acronis True Image to clone:
http://www.acronis.co.uk/promo/ATIH2011/AT...CFUJB6wodcXb-iQ

You don't need to install anything. Everything would be the same as your previous drive.
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what purpose to do this ?
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post Oct 30 2010, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Oct 30 2010, 10:15 AM)
what purpose to do this ?
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To optimised the performance I guess .. I'm new to SSD (haven't got mine either). A bit of googling will reveal this actually..

Gee.. looking at Garage Sales, you're selling SSD too.. hmm.. you're confusing me now..

This post has been edited by wiraone: Oct 30 2010, 09:34 PM

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