I am currently on a tight budget as I am still studying well as a fan of the original starcraft I love the game from the core from it's quirky dialogues and campaign and it's cinematic's . Long story short I would like to get starcraft 2 I am just wondering if you guys who have the first hand s experience of the game. From the perspective of buying it early .What's you view is it really worth it to get it now with all the hype going around or just wait till it past so the price maybe lowered down .

Wish to hear your opinions ^^ to help me come to a decision >.< !

This post has been edited by Laguna: Aug 4 2010, 02:11 AM

i got mine for RM 220...
it will last u from 1-5 years at least...
to me it is worth it...

Cheap entertainment. RM230 that will last you for at least a year if you like battlenet. Worth every ringgit and sen

dun dream abt price going down. not in the next 2 yrs. lOl

that's not good ><

woi... beli from mana region apa

SEA >.<
blame JS and Zac...
now jason is the only one that does not have it lol...

Lets see ;

-SEA version with dual region capabilities (We get to play on US servers in September?)
-Up-to-date patches via Battle.net
-Achievements and Ladder System
-Excellent campaign
-Fixes to B.Net 2.0 sometime in the future to allow for more ease of communication planned. (Confirmed by a blue).



The price justifies itself man, come on. Join the dominion.

I like Blizzard but I don't like Activision.
I like StarCraft but I don't like StarCraft II as it is now.

No LAN.
No chat channels.
No proper sorting of custom maps. The same ones will be at top of list.
No US server access for SEA for two months.
No satisfying storyline.

Not worth. Wait.

Hmm.. I hate to bring you bad news but I give it 2 years at most. Did anyone mention you're gonna have to pay at those prices two more times within the next four years? There will be 2 more expansions. STANDALONE expansions! It means they can run as separate full games. Hence full prices. RM220 again 2 more times. So, it will be RM660 for your four years unless you wanna stay out of date.

USD60 is the raised price of the original game from USD50. You're supposed to be paying RM170 for a standard original game. The more people buying such prices, the more Activision are going to raise the price even further. Even Bobby Kotick says he wants to raise prices even higher:

http://www.destructoid.com/kotick-i-would-...ld-143049.phtml

Not to mention SEA version around retailers are basically USD79 rather than the USD75 claimed from the press release. Lack of patience. Lack of resistance to temptation. You reap what you sow. Thunder. Whirlwind. Hell, it's not the time.

dun need LAN as its lagless for me...
chat channels being implemented (read blue posts)..
i love the custom map sorting based on popularity (sorting by popularity make sense as a comp scientist, even google rank by popularity lol)...
hey there is still US servers rite besides SEA when 2 months is due?
great storyline to me...
high reviews worldwide....
top selling RTS of all time...

its RM 190 for US version, just that SEA is costlier...
and again i bought my SEA at 220...

even if it last 1 year, its 220 per year = less than 20 per month lol...
i paid RM 50 per month for WoW and 20 bucks for tunneling...
this is so much cheaper =p
compared to some people that spent few hundred clubbing hoping to get laid lol...

and expansions would be cheaper since the engine is already there for reuse...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 03:08 AM

WELL. Kotick can just die seriously. I mean as much as he's doing what the shareholders want to see (a good annual report), he's actually probably maybe, could be killing the company.

Well, if you are a fan of waiting for everything to subside, then get it just slightly before the next installment comes out somewhere in 2012, that is two years from now. By then, the Wings of Liberty title should be relatively cheap. But remember, prices might not go down as much as you probably hoped for since these so called 'expansion' titles are standalone versions too, which means that you can install and run them without having to buy the current title.

maybe a battle chest or something...
but knowing blizz in these few years, players would be given a separate expansion for upgrade via bnet (look at WoW)

You don't need to be ashamed and make up reasons for having bought it too early. What's done is done. Bandwagoning and marketing are strong patterns in Malaysia.

We want LAN not just because of lag. What if you're in an area without Internet access but have 4 laptops and each with SC2 installed? Even if you have, you should not forget the coverage, costs and reliability of Malaysia's Internet?
NOT WORTH IT YET.

Yeah, chat channels are not there at launch. Wow, USD79 for NO CHAT CHANNELS FTW! Also, WHEN is it EXACTLY coming?
NOT WORTH IT YET.

No, it doesn't make sense. Fail computer scientist. You get all the same Tower Defense map at the top when people make those new final fantasy, fps, rpg maps remain at the bottom/last page(and nobody sees or plays them).
NOT WORTH IT YET.

Yeah, but you paid USD79. It's not here yet.
NOT WORTH IT YET.

Oh, you're a WOW player. That explains a lot. Hey, Guild Wars 2 is coming next year. Wait, you have a lot of money. Never mind. You're not one of those I need to inform.

Expansions won't be cheaper. I am 100% sure. You failed to understand what they said in the articles about this. This is very telling of your desperation to justify your early purchase. Please don't. You're making it more painful for your impatience.

Clubbing is irrelevant. There are people who don't club who have yet to know about the problems with SC2.

SC2 IS NOT WORTH IT........... YET.

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:43 amI'm willing to pay full price but I am trying to make a dent in their quarterly report so that they will see and not maintain USD60 as standard price and hopefully drop the price. We have to fight for our consumer rights. You guys aren't helping but I won't blame you.

I'll buy by next quarter or if there is a sale or end of the year at most where hopefully they have most of the features added and problems solved. Meanwhile, I'll just lanun as protest. I'll eventually buy it anyway as I'm a mapmaker but I'll remain anonymous on this site. :]

This post has been edited by JackAlvins: Aug 4 2010, 03:43 AM

am i not in msia?
am the other players not in msia?
not all of us have connection issues...
LAN is just an excuse for piracy...
tournaments copy do have LAN as stated...

it is being implemented lol...
if u wanna wait go ahead =p

OMG wut u said showed that u dunno how the ranking works for sc2...
all the same maps are put under a single entry, not multiple entries lol, thus the list would not be long at all...
meaning all of the same TDs? they are only 1 single entry...
this showed me that u just join the bashing bandwagon without experiencing it or even bother knowing about it...
lol seriously u really wanna question me on ranking algorithms?
why dun u tell me, how should it be ranked then

i paid RM 220, which is not USD 79 lol...
just because u dunno where to get a better deal, doesnt mean other people could not

so would u take a bet with me about the expansion price?
i'm up for it

i am getting guild wars 2 when its out lol...
i'm not rich, but i am working despite being 22, staying on my own and i know wut to spend my money on...
unlike some people who claimed buying original is costly and rather spurge it all on clubbing, cybercafes etc (again as examples)...

btw, i stopped my WoW subs this month just to get sc2...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:46 amsee? just an excuse for piracy...
if u intend to protest, why bother pirating it?

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:50 amps: i was a beta tester since phase 1 till now... if its not good, i would not have bought it when beta ended... nuff' said...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 03:50 AM

evofantasy, you are being a failure due to your stupidity and laziness to understand. Maybe even read at all.

Connection issues? You're really dim. Some areas don't have access to Internet or are too expensive for people to afford!

You mean you haven't experienced the 100s dota clones, td clones, zerg blood clones? All those will stay up there pushing down those nice new rpgs, fps, UMS and other map types. I can gladly say you have no right to argue. You lack the experience to understand the problems.

Oh, I'm willing to bet with you for the expansion price. RM500. Because you don't understand what you read it seems. That is why I will win the bet. Hey, just because BLIZZARD ALREADY SAID SO in the articles but I guess it's alright to lose your money, rich guy. I have been following SC2 development even before it was announced which is why I know Heart of the Swarm and Legacy of the Void will be fully priced, rich guy. So, do you still want to bet? Easy money.

Also, what has anything got to do with beta-testing? I am also phase 1 beta-tester myself. Hell, I even beta-tested SC1. evofantasy, I am not lying.

You better re-read what I have posted. You have bought yours so fine. Your claim that I make excuse for piracy? Hey man, I'm gonna buy it so I will own a legitimate license. It's will be legit. I am one of the early buyers of original software ranging from the original SC to Quake.

You? You're just grasping straws to reason for your impatient purchase which have proven again and again that you don't even try to understand what was posted.

Are you sure you're a paying customer of ActiBlizzard? Or are you just their dog? If not then you should know to read and understand what you are getting and not getting as a customer and not simply reply me with horribly structured posts.

I am a paying customer of Blizzard and I know what I don't want. No deal with Blizz for SC2. I can wait. You couldn't. You failed. EZ.

This post has been edited by JackAlvins: Aug 4 2010, 04:44 AM

so does that mean that any MMORPG should allow LAN since some places dun have internet?
SC2 is meant to promote eSport not LANsport...
the whole LAN issue has been going on since it was announced and guess wut? the sales says otherwise (1.5 million copies within 48 hours)...
every product have a targeted audience, it just not targeted at people without internet lol...
and it is also not targeted at people that cant afford the game...

sorry, from beta to release i didnt experience such clones as drastic as u mentioned...
again, wut sorting algorithm would u suggest instead of popularity?
u still haven answer me on this...

"Are these three separate games? How much will all of these games cost?
The StarCraft II Trilogy will consist of the base StarCraft II game and two expansion sets. Pricing on these games hasn't been determined at this early stage; however, we've always charged an appropriate price for the content the player receives, and we will continue to release high-quality games that offer great value."
sourced from: http://us.starcraft2.com/faq.xml
prices are yet to be named and u go gaga over the pricing issue unless u work with acti/blizz or u have a spy there
sorry but i read on the broader picture or u are following the wrong thing cause i am quoting from sc2 FAQ itself...
being standalone doesn't mean the price is the same...

how can affording a RM220 game make u rich lol...
or u are seeing the future when the expansions do come out and i am rich?

thing is u cant even understand the exchange rate to know that sc2 is not selling at USD79 as u claimed over and over again...
is it not blizz/ activision's fault for the price? i got mine at USD 69.59 based on today's exchange rate...
dun tell me the person i bought from is selling at a lost as blizz selling them at USD79 LOL?
i purchased mine 1 week after launch at a cheaper price, i find it worth it to get it this week cheaper by MYR28...

the beta testing was meant to the TS, not u signifying that as a tester myself, if i am not happy wit the product i wont buy it...

well u did claim
if it is not worthit yet, wait urself till its worth it and dun pirate it...
simple rite?
no matter how much originals u bought, u are planning to get pirate for sc2...
all the right in the past doesn't give u the right to do wrong in the present...

just a joke: JackAlvins transition from a 6-discussion into a 10-calling-dog after he 8-scouted he was losing the argument...
as the saying goes, they'll lower u down to their level and beat u with experience... sorry i am a fan of name-calling transition =p

ps: sure every1 is a grammar nazi in public forums where you must have well structured and grammar posts when colloquialism seemed to be the norm lol...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 05:30 AM

I'll make this short:

Read every interview if you want to know what is in Blizzard or rather Activision's mind.

There are better games out there worth spending RM220 for right now.

Piracy issue. THEY DELAY. I DELAY. EZ.

Plus I am helping out in the campaign to have the price lowered. Lower price. More people buy. More people play. More fun. Look at this now. Everything feels so artificial. It's like you're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure. But it doesn't matter. How can it not matter to you where the train will take you? Because we'll be...... NO, YOU'LL BE ALONE! f*** YOU ACTIBLIZZ! SO IT MATTERS!

This post has been edited by JackAlvins: Aug 4 2010, 05:16 AM

as usual evading my questions especially about the sorting of custom games...
joining the bashing bandwagon without any concrete points sure stinks eh...
the game is not perfect but no where as bad as u claimed it to be...

good games deserve their price tag...
development is not cheap and if u played the single player, u can see the amount of money, time and effort just to develop SC2...
as the saying goes, good things dun come cheap...
high reviews worldwide support the quality...
1.5M early buyers cant be wrong...

hope ur campaign is successful, i'll be cheering for ur success from the Hyperion...
i think the other 1.5million early buyers will to...
after all we'll get cheaper expansions while enjoying WoL...

Everything is explained since my first post in this thread. You enjoy your fail.

average of 94 ^,^
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/starcraft2

Chill guys..
Pagi2 sudah gaduh..
Haha..

My take on this..
SC2 still worth it at RM224 which I bought at launch date.
Hell, i even invested on hardware for this game (bought ATI5750, and planning to upgrade my processor soon).
Its simple really, if you're like me, you just can't find a game that gives u this much fun and joy.

Since last year, I've bought the following ps3 games:

FFXIII for RM195
White Chronicles for RM 180
FIFA WC 2010 for RM130
Uncarted 2 for Rm120
MGS IV for RM180
FIFA 09 for RM140
GTA IV for RM170
+ a few others..

All of the above are good and A++ high quality titles, however, the major difference here is I know i'm gonna spend x10 more of my time on Starcraft 2 then all of those games combined.

That alone, my dear friends, justifies the price tag. And the fact that there's no monthly fees simply seals the deal for me. Keep in mind the maintenance cost for the servers are not cheap for sure.

So in conclusion, despite the game being imperfect and having its flaws, I still absolutely am satisfied with my SC2 buy.
Again, this is just my 2 cents, and you may feel differently so please don't be offended.

However, I understand the disappointment at the lack of LAN feature. It's a bad move by Blizzard but this is a business decision that we have to live with. I for one, are not gonna complaint too much about it because the always-online & persistent connection to the Internet proves to be a refreshing experience that I really enjoy :-]

This post has been edited by fizyboy: Aug 4 2010, 06:14 AM

Just get the damn game!
I can assure you, it's worth it!

Just a simple advise, if you don't have money + power to afford, don't play, stop complaining about it being expensive.

saying so much here makes no different...
they won't even bother to lower the price at all...

don't like = don't buy
like = buy...end of story

If you can buy a PC, why u can't buy a game?

If you can buy a PS3, why u can't buy a game?

no lan = lag = dont buy
got lan = free game = download = dont buy

IMO, SC2 is only worth it if you gonna play MP competitively and you dont have any other games that you are playing a lot in the mean time. If you have bought a lot of games from the recent Steam Summer Sales, forget about SC2 as you will not have time to play all the games.

The single player's storyline is quite underwhelming, especially toward the end. I did not say it sucks in every way, as the gameplay for each mission, it's really fun to play. Not to forget about those Mercs, upgrades and armory. It's a nice touch to the campaign and adds a lot of depth. In the end, the campaign is just average for me,due to a rather silly storyline.

If the campaign is linear, i think it would be much better,as it could tell a much more cohesive storyline, than a a few short story based campaign.

Multiplayer wise, the matchmaking is really really good, as it can find games in seconds. The balance of the game is probably the most balanced RTS game on release. Also, SC2 have a very active e-sports community which is the plus point if you want to play this game competitively, as other RTS just fail so much at this.

Custom game wise, i think, SEA doesnt have as many UMS as other countries, as Bnet 2.0 uses a server hosting system.

The graphics is looks great and runs great, as it runs smoothly even on low end computers.

There isnt any need for sorting algorithm. It's simple, use the good old system that was in Warcraft 3 or any RTS in existence where you could host your own private game that you can set password to lock the game to your friends only, choose your own map and so on, rather than a list that sort you out based on popularity.

I never get the idea why Blizzard changed the custom game menu that ranks on popularity. The old system works pretty well, as:
a) You get to lock your game to prevent random pubs from coming in
b) Your hosted game will have equal chances of being chosen by people, rather than 3-4 pages below if it's a low popularity map.
c) Mappers can advertise their maps easier, as it's somewhere on the list, rather than on page 5 of the current popularity system
d) People know what kind of game before they join it, from things like a game of Lost Temple with FFA or 2v2, to things like DotA's -ap or -ar mode

The current custom game system is flawed. Popularity works for Google, but doesnt mean it works for a game.

To the two dudes duking it out in the wee hours of the morning, I'm hoping you guys will give it a rest and stop that rather incessant squabble of yours. Many a name was called and intellects questioned, so fair warning to you two to stop it.


The thing is, since mods will be monetized, its VERY important that popular mods will get more attention as it helps the community decide (As nobody's going to pay for a custom MP map that has very little players). Similar to the iTunes App store, where its a lot easier to find stuff that is generally popular since to a lot of ppl, lots of buyers = high quality (Yeah, this metric is extremely flawed, but that's the most fundamental of buyer guides)

Like you, I don't necessarily agree with it (Since it obviously just makes the more popular games even more popular and sinks everything else), but its perfectly understandable from a business point of view.

me thinks whether or not you bought games from steam during summer sale - it's worth it!

cos games being games, you can finish it at other point in your life. no problem.

well my opinion is, it is worth it.

maybe got some flaws here and there but i figure those flaws will be ironed out given time i guess.

one complain i have is that i can't seem to download maps using my wired 512kbps connection.

if i borrow my neighbor's 4mbs line via wifi stick then the maps download very quickly though.



my elder bro in adelaide, aussie, thinks it is over hyped. maybe because he does not have a powerful enuf computer to play it?

when i started to play SC2, i find it to be around 6/10. thought it's the old game with new graphics.

as i played on (i play campaign now, hard mode all the way) and i find it really fun to play and there are new units, new features and custom upgrades. it's actually fun!

bought a good computer to wait for SC2 but when it arrives. i finally stop gaming for PC and switched to consoles..kinda fed up with pc games because of the games too easily hacked tehrefore losing the ompph for pc.

220 for SC2 is steep, just like MW2 when it first came out,
I figured that for that kind of price one paid for MW2, at least Steam can do something bout the players who uses hack to play but hell, they can't.

first of all:
if it werent me being seriously sleep deprived, i would've joined the fun.

secondly:
i am even considering adding this into the FAQ, however, i am lazy, and i doubt fuj would even bother, but ill just leave it up to his discretion.

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Added on August 4, 2010, 10:41 amthats the general flame back then. wwwww

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 4 2010, 10:41 AM

My answer:

If it's nothing or you have other much cheaper alternatives then it'll make it an easy choice. A simple read and you'll realize that a lot of "conventional" features are missing.
Some ppl respond to hype. Others have more dignity. You make up your own mind.
But if you ask me, RM200+ is way to expensive for quirky dialogues and cinematics only if that's all you're looking for. If you're only interested in the single player, I recommend you share a copy or buy one, finish it ASAP and sell it out at lower price. But beware, since most ppl are very particular about account names, and 1 copy = 1 account only.

I doubt ppl will be a 2nd hand copy of SC2 and play under that persons ID.... hahaha

^

its really as simple as that.

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Added on August 4, 2010, 11:13 amyou dont buy then.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 4 2010, 11:13 AM

If you want something this brilliant but no money to buy, then shut up and work hard to buy the game (:

its worth it and battle.net is free

This post has been edited by [W]ee[D]: Aug 4 2010, 11:17 AM

while i hate apple, and i certainly hate itunes, at least someone is looking at things objectively, regardless of dis/agreeing to the content or subject at hand

This issue is subjective, because some people will feel it's worth buying and some will not. In the end, it your own money. Remember, B.net is free. And nobody's forcing you to get it.

where u got it from for 220 la wei.
js and zac got d? jason won't be getting it i guess he just got bbcs and still unemployed XD

I will laugh my ass off when the servers are all open up and those rushing to buy Limited edition at Rm799++ and so on will get screwed

Anyway, as the above poster said, no money, dont buy.

Still, I think RM660 is cheaper than what I would be spending on other type of entertainment .

market selling RM248,

if u like SC2 , don't said need to paid RM248,
if RM2480 also i will buy,

why?

if i go for others entertainment it cost me more then that already,
plus SC2 is the world known best RTS game .
some more u can play up to min 3 to 5 years.

so TS, u try to think,worth or not? u decide ..!!

I think you should be aware that game reviews, unlike music/movie reviews, are generally FAIL nowadays. Too much influence by advertisers to rate things highly. Too many letters written to sites and magazines pressuring them to rate things highly. SC2 already falls under the first category due to the massive ad spammage over any media source with the slightest reference to gaming.

"Are these three separate games? How much will all of these games cost?
The StarCraft II Trilogy will consist of the base StarCraft II game and two expansion sets. Pricing on these games hasn't been determined at this early stage; however, we've always charged an appropriate price for the content the player receives, and we will continue to release high-quality games that offer great value."
Er, Blizzard clearly failed at this. BFBC2 costs RM129 at retail, SC2 costs RM248 (both at normal price). The first has lots of official dedicated servers in SEA, the second has Bnet SEA. But either IAH, Blizzard and/or Craptivi$ion thinks the extra RM50 is for the higher bandwidth costs in SG, whereas EA gives you the same package and can still profit by selling it for less than in the US.

And as far as I know JackAlvins does actual game development IRL.

Anyway OP,
I would say hold on your horses till SEA owners get US client access. If they seem to have no issues with playing games on the US, get the US version then. Otherwise sit it out till they roll out a SC2 bundle together with Heart of the Swarm zerg expansion or later. SC2 is simply overpriced as it is, and right now the hype wagon is clouding the judgment of too many gamers.

Played on a friend's copy, here's my tl;dr opinions:

Single player: 6.5/10
Gameplay 4.5/5, missions are well designed. Friend tells em there's no kill-em-all long big battle missions like Omega in SC:BW though...
Story 2/10 (granted I only played half of it but the story is piss-poor compared to SC1 and WC3)

Multiplayer and Battle.net: 4/10, Bnet 2.0 is still worse than 1.0 despite the marginal improvements here and there

Weight:
IAH Games publishes SEA SC2, 0/10 for SC2 SEA edition. Go look up IAH's history with screwing gamers over time and time again in Singapore.

Edit: seems like frags here has the same opinions as I do: http://malaysian-gamer.blogspot.com/2010/0...ofiteering.html

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Aug 4 2010, 12:00 PM

i got my limited edition for rm400+

AFAIK the only limited edition Blizzard game worth RM800 or more is the original WoW limited edition. The rest are too common compared to that.

- no one tell you to trust reviews word by word without even putting any thought into what they say
- go play BFBC2 then. this is sc2, not even a FPS.
- as far as i know jackalvins is trying to convince people to support piracy, game developer or not.

That is why I am like WTF?? when there is a seller selling the CE for RM900 =.=" I can buy PS3 by topping up another RM300 already

But AFAIK if thousands of gamers are willing to get their butts screwed over for SC2 at the price of two games with long multiplayer replayability, surely there's a fool who'd pay RM800 for the CE.

worth it dumb ass ! bought mine last week and been playing and enjoy it!

I think SC2 is overrated. I've played the campaign a little and here are my thoughts of it.

1) Diablo 2 styled cinematics are great, especially the Zeratul vs Kerrigan part. Should have more of these.
2) Story is crap
3) I don't like how there can be be some mission you can opt not to do or do later (ie, the order of missions) and how the main story comes after playing some missions. Means the story is in a arbitrary order.
4) I was a Battle.net player on SC but play on normal difficulty and I feel the missions are crap, and easy (maybe because on normal) compared to SC1.
5) The atmosphere SC2 gives you is in no way comparable to SC1. In SC, you get the fear of the Zergs, but in SC2, there're lots of humor, and the battlecruser Hyperion itself is a joke.
6) It eats too much resources, uses over 1 GB of RAM!

I was referring to the SEA edition so if you bought the US edition then I apologize. If not then I hope buyer's remorse doesn't get you because in most cases if you pay too much for something it certainly will.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Aug 4 2010, 12:15 PM

More:

7) The SC1 with the cool mouse cursors and great graphics with low PC-requirements where everyone can play lag-free is gone. Replaced with 3D version of the game, which is not excactly so much of an improvement if you ask me. Yeah, I play Ultra VQ, on 1080p resolution.

he got money, its his money, who are you to judge? lol

Because it sets a precedent where games go up in price with no tangible improvement of quality or content to gamers if gamers choose to buy these games.

MW2 -> 60 USD for a PC game with no Sony/Microsoft console tax. Yet many people bought it. What happened next? Assassin's Creed 2 PC 60 USD. Splinter Cell US$60. And on Youbeli.com i see craptivi$ion's Singularity at RM220. If a popular game sells well despite the price gouging, the rest will follow.

This post has been edited by yimingwuzere: Aug 4 2010, 12:24 PM

next week u see ppl sell rm50 at garage sale, then next month u see pc game shop sell rm10 per dvd...

not worth at all, especially this kind of games......

Well, in Malaysia's case, I blame our Activision distros. If you look at the last 2 years, all Activision games sell for a minimum of RM 180 (Unlike RM 150 which is the average for other companies) and of late, I'm seeing that rise to about RM 200... Hence, I'm ignoring pretty much all Activision games.

As for Singularity, hmmmm, looks like Youbeli is jacking its price as its only RM 200 at TSB.

Ah well, our local retail scene had a good run (In spite of that, I'm still a fan of EA SEA). Time to turn to DDs I guess.

dont buy it to make a point to the developers/publishers then. however, if the game is good, people would still buy it regardless and it'd make you look silly. look at THIS thread for example.

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Added on August 4, 2010, 12:30 pmdecent trolling attempt.

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Added on August 4, 2010, 12:33 pmim not even going jump on the activision bandwagon as its a sc2 thread within a sc2 sub-forum, so for our sc2 case:

lol @ IAH and SMM. (amongst the reasons i stick dead-on to my US ver.)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 4 2010, 12:33 PM

jz look at LYN game sales section...
u dun need to buy from stores that stick to their RM248 price tags...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 12:40 pmthat's the problem...
ppl can complain about the price (cough then pirate it) but never thought about other entertainment which cost so much more...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 12:43 pmif he is a game developer himself, he should be aware on the whole piracy issue and stop supporting it...
i'm a comp scientist by major and i am against it even when i dun develop software atm...

reviews are meants as a guideline...
u dun have to fully agree as one man's meat is another man's poison...

any1 here sick of the whole BF:BC fiasco?
this game get quote so much now when EA was the most hated company back then lol...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 12:46 pmmost ppl is bashing the game due to their dislike to activision...
seriously, they are the publisher and not the developer to the game...
boycott wut u want, this thread shows that ppl (those who supported it like me) will buy the game when it is good regardless of all the drama...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 12:46 PM

to me its not the price. if u like it. if u want it. buy it. try the trial first. play offline or play lanun first. like me, i always download the lanun first before brought the game. this to noe if this game suit me or not.

I don't mind to pay for original if the games are good. But when those good games's prices are jacked up just because they can, that's where I draw the line.

1) If you're talking about the so-called 'boycotters' of Modern Warfare 2 in that steam group all playing MW2, then yes. In this case, no.

2) If you read what I've been saying so far, the bulk of my complaints are directed at the SEA version.

1) Comparing apples to oranges... can you compare this to other games instead?

2) You obviously do selective reading on posts, please reread each post in the topic.

3) I agree with "one man's meat is another man's poison". The point I'm driving at is, game companies nowadays have too much influence over reviewers, with reviewers pressured to give good scores based on the game's heavy advertising on their sites, and threatening letters, etc.

4) I'm sorry you can't find any excuses to justify the SEA edition being so overpriced compared to other multiplayer-centric AAA titles. Too bad. And BFBC2 doesn't come with bullshit DRM like Spore, so why should I complain? EA was hated only because they pushed they were pushing that DRM nonsense that punished legitimate buyers back in 2008.

5) Activision also owns Blizzard. Activision can call the shots on marketing and prices, even if they said they'd give free rein to Blizzard over game development. Fanboy all you want, this thread shows that fanboys (who blindly support whatever their idols throw out regardless of quality) will buy the game and think it's good no matter how much they pay for less compared to its predecessors...

if a sc2 fan boy / girl likes sc2, he / she will buy it if he / she believes it is worth it. he / she will be happy, is happy.

i dun think other people can stop him / her from buying it.


well, folks can, will probably comment about how this will jack up the prices etc, but there is no way to prevent it.

since you cannot force willing buyers to not spend money on a game that they like to support, even though it may seems a bit over priced, etc.

things like this just happens.

Lol ppl buy with their own money. Can't really stop them.

There's nothing to argue about from the start. Don't like it, don't buy. Like it, buy. End of line. End of story. Case closed

well, some people is "arguing" that such actions, fan boys supporting "over priced" products will cause "inflation" as something like the prices of future products will be higher liao.

MW2 boycott itself failed...
and many of the butthurt just took BF:BC as the substitute...
that's when the whole EA as the evil one become the holy one...

1. well see any MMORPGs out there, sub based or cash shop based... how much those cost? how bout xbox games with their XBL subs? all the other DLCs? all of these are much costlier and i dun see any QQ over it...

2. well to me if a 'game developer' would be supporting piracy, its just so ironic... as bad as a game is, it does not give u the excuse to pirate it... since its bad WHY ARE U PLAYING IT through PIRACY?

3. there are low reviews as well... that's y i linked metacritic which is a compilation of reviews out there and not a specific review for ur reading/ decision...

4. EA was where Activision is claimed to be now... milking IPs over n over again for sequels or killing the good IPs (CnC etc)... that was the main reason why it was hated, not the DRM etc... the hate started when EA was the biggest publisher in the world through the sport licensing etc... and that include the huge console gamers base as well about EA (look back at gamefaq back then)...

5. a bad publisher doesn't mean a bad game... games are associated to their developers and not really their publisher... as long as the price is justifiable, i'm ok wit buying it...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 2:26 pmwell if the game is affordable why not?
its not like 200 with 50bucks subs per month...
or 500 one off...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 02:28 PM

The MW2 boycott failed, that's why gamers are now getting screwed in the butt by inflated prices. EA scored a coup by catering to the needs of PC players, so what? They're providing what Activision refused to provide to gamers, that's competition for you in a capitalist economy. They aren't holy though (eg. C&C4) nor did I ever say they are, I just said the whole BFBC2 package is a sound one that caters to the PC gamer community well and it's position being usually higher than MW2 in Steam's top sellers list is testament to that.

1. Neither SC2 nor BFBC2 are MMOGs and therefore don't use a MMOG payment system. On the PC platform there's no XBL subscription, those services died out years ago.

2. Maybe you should also question why some music artistes advice their fans to pirate their albums.

3. You quoted its average score, not the actual sound reviews there.

4. I quoted the most recent case of gamer hatred towards EA.

5. I didn't imply bad publishers cause bad games, rather in this case of Activision (or IAH or both), they set unjustifiable pricing with the SEA copy. If you actually read my comments on people inquiring if it's worth buying, I always said to look for the US edition.

Deimos, exactly my point. If can't afford the game, don't buy Work hard for it

Nothing is cheap these days, everything goes up in price. Petrol, daily needs....the only thing tak naik is SALARY

We can't compare now and then. PC used to cost a fortune back in those olden days (if u're as old as me ). Now they are dirt cheap. Even printers are the same. Printer used to cost a lot last time, and cartridge is cheap. Now printers are dirt cheap, and cartridge are freaking expensive

Apparently, the monetised mods is put on hold indefinitely.

It's no longer in the game.

Im still looking for the link back.

So, MW2 is a good game? MW2 is just an overhyped game, just like SC2.

The stuff that is in the game does not justify the development time. Piss poor campaign, underwhelming Battlenet 2.0 and so on.

Sure, SC2 is fun, but it's too expensive.

how so this would not be the case? people still buy sc2 if they want to, and they are paying to their hated activision anyways. try looking back in the previous sc2 'version' threads, and/or even the "i hate sc2" thread. then see how many of them plays sc2 now. same shit if you ask me.

honestly, legit complaints towards a specific issue with objectivity in mind is fine, however the posts you've made is treading on both sides, worse when you seem to be taking up a pirate's side. at the end of the day: you hate it? dont buy. no one forcing you. you just hate IAH/SMM/SEA? (like me) fine, buy US (hell, even cheaper than SEA wwwww) worried bout pings? have my word that its NOT an issue unless you're a professional where every millisecond of reaction counts. dont take my word for it? get a guest pass, try it yourself.

see how EASY that is?

also on the bolded:
predecessors you say? let me ask you this: i want to play a competitive e-sport level BALANCED RTS. WHAT other game would you suggest?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 4 2010, 03:16 PM

passing by and saw epic thread in the making..so i decided to drop in and give some opinion of my own..

cash shop based MMORPG u can just play for free and drop the game when u are bored with it. this one? u are forced to pay everything..and to be honestly, even though i am working right now, i still feel the price is rather above average..and i am still hesitating whether to get or not...in terms of gaming experience, i kinda like it, fun to be played

yeah, sure, we arent suppose to pirate stuffs....but let's be honest here...are all ur applications, games, legit? yes? then what about ur MP3? if u answer all to these questions, that only meant u are bloody rich to have that much money to spend...for the majority of us, even working people, we got so many things to pay, and end of the month, we have only a few hundreds left to save up. If every game we want we get ori, i think we be broke edi. Jack Sparrow edition is more like a 'trial' of the game, if like, get ori, or else, delete and remove from HDD

for the metacritics, compilation is why the score is not trustable....it is because more the sites that do game review are already pressured to give high score, i don see how compiling all the score would help in this case

i agree with you on bad publisher doesnt mean bad game, but bad publisher are bad for reasons, and those reasons normally screw up the game on way or another

affordable? maybe...depends, u might think RM220 is small amount, or cheap, but to many people, that is very expensive..
the game is not RM200 with RM50 per month, or RM500, but after the 3 expansion come out, what will be the grand total of the whole game?

don tell me BS like u can just get the ori one and not the expansion...when expansion comes out, new units and feature are added, and people will just go ahead and play the expansion instead of the original, and in the end, the original game would most likely be abandon, like how it is on the first Starcraft..and when that happen, u will for sure go and buy the expansion also. On single player perspective also, the story continues, so u will need to get the new expansion to follow up with the story also. In the end, u will get all 3 games and have the grand cost of RM220x3

just to clarify, Activision-blizzard was created because of EA (again, Vivendi is the keyword.)
hate activision so much? perhaps you guys might wanna take a look at the root cause.

Since when everyone wants to play a competitive RTS?

1. u asked me about games... and i give u games... i dun see ppl complaining bout SSF4 or BB:CS when both are clearly standalone expansions...

2. educate me on this... any links?

3. i did provide a link to metacritic, u dun expect me to copy paste all of the reviews rite lol... i'm not doing to do all the dirty work...

4. EA was hated way back from wut u quoted for being far worse than activision... just because of MW2, they decided to try and buy back gamers and it half worked... after all MW2 sales is HOT

5. US edition is RM 190 (exchange rage), SEA edition is RM 220 (u can get cheaper from the games section)... wut SEA offer is access to US server in roughly 2 months time... and of course it depends on ur frens as u would wanna play wit ur frens (thus i bought SEA)

Wikipedia tells me Activision was created because of Atari back in the 80s.

well apparently some people just don get it...

sure we are not a pro where every milisecond counts, but, when it add up to 500ms or 1000ms, how do u play the game? maybe you have nice internet connection, but doesnt mean the rest of us have....plus, u know how bad Stremayx is these days...it might not happen now, but it will be a potential problem, especially after SEA gets US client, which is why most people think twice of buying the US version.

also, i think the missing of LAN game is very, very disappointing. Although internet gameplay is very popular right now, but it still don beat LAN in terms of connection stability(at least not here in Malaysia). me and my friends lan party, all of us own original copy of the game, but we still need to connect to the server to play? that's rather redundant..

I dont remember EA begin far worse than current Activision back then.

EA was only infamous for making tonnes of annual sequels with little or no innovations.

What Activision is doing is, making annual sequels with little innovation, then, put a ridiculous price tag on it. Fast forward to a few months, here it comes the expensive DLC.

good/bad/overhyped/underrated/whatever/anything

DONT BUY then.
WHY pay them money if you think its not worth paying for?
Raynor: Somethings, are just worth fighting for. nope not so cliche thar


ps: so i heard you bought sc2?

developers find that MMORPGs with cash shops earn more than subscription based MMORPGs...
and ppl are having trouble with a one time sum for SC2?
any AAA titles let it be ps3/ xbox is around the price itself...
good games deserve their price...

why u need to pirate to try the game?
the game do have free trials/ guest pass rite?
again JUST AN EXCUSE TO PIRATE

metacritic do show all the reviews taken to obtain the average score...
u can go through the reviews u know and not just look at the score...
seriously, metacritic is meant for that not only looking at the average...

total price in the end? u would never know...
the game itself is as big as a game itself thus should be compared to other release game itself...
just because its a trilogy doesnt mean u need to include the other 2 parts...
and standalone expansions are cheaper (SSF4, BB:CS etc)...
seriously, did blizz give out the price of heart of swarm/ legacy of the void that i've missed out?
cause every1 is saying that its priced the same...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:28 pmkeynote in quaza's post "activision-blizzard"...
AKA the merger between activision and blizzard...

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:29 pmvs

NO INNOVATION for EA vs LITTLE INNOVATION for Activision (no no innovation here)

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 03:29 PM

I DO. and I am asking the question. and I PAID for the game. and I am enjoying it.

see the bolded characters?

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Added on August 4, 2010, 3:32 pm

see the bolded characters?

wiki/google again.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 4 2010, 03:32 PM

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? EA was FAR worst than Activision during its heyday as the big evil corporation.

They killed of great development houses
Attempted to monopolize whole sports games
Had a reputation for running their operations like a sweatshop

EA was really REALLY horrid back then. Yes, they're angels now compared to what they were before, but I'm not going to forget what they did as it could easily happen again (EA actually started out as a very good publisher)

Activision may be evil now, but that doesn't suddenly exonerate EA from their past exploits. That's just double standards.

I won't mind paying 230 bux if it is the CE version at that price. But the std version all u get is some fancy box, cd with no case- only paper cover, 2 useless guest pass for sc2 and wow and a B/W manual OMG wtf is that.

Compared to the 175 i paid for ME2 CE, i got a hell lot more inside than compared to SC2 std version

This post has been edited by ericpires: Aug 4 2010, 03:33 PM

Hmm... evofantasy seems really damn lazy. Even googling also like damn hard to do. Failure at its finest. Trying to rebuke everything I said just because I pirate? Because your momma says pirating is wrong? You don't understand piracy well enough as I do because you've proven time and time again that you don't read. Enjoy living in the past.

Everyone else, if you bought your game then great, go ahead enjoy it. I'm just raising the awareness that maybe sometimes it is a better idea to wait and see first. There is nothing wrong with having the game but there seems to be something wrong if you're evofantasy.

I am willing to pay for the game.

I will eventually buy the game.

But I am doing a protest because I don't like game and its implementation right now to hopefully to make a dent in quarterly earnings to send a message to ActivisionBlizzard so they don't do a lot of things right for us consumers. Oh yeah, I'm not gonna help with evofantasy's lazy ass to google but IAH has a history as well. Look it up.

At the moment, Korea is not receiving SC2 favourably. But there will still be sponsors and competitions. I predict only WarCraft 3 level of success. unless they do some big patch and big changes. It's obvious evofantasy is a rich spoilt brat who just wants his voice heard in the lyn community. He says really nothing useful except demonstrate how bad he is at comprehension. That is all.

This post has been edited by JackAlvins: Aug 4 2010, 03:35 PM

thank you for supporting that EA was much more for a HORROR back then...

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Aug 4 2010, 03:34 PM