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FLampard
post Oct 2 2011, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Oct 2 2011, 11:47 AM)
u clearly dno how OP is marine.
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i would never know if my opponents never play to the strength of my marines.
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 2 2011, 11:41 AM)
lol u play 111 back lar, 1 stargate, 1 gateway 1 robotic bay ... lol
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u try la~
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post Oct 2 2011, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Oct 2 2011, 12:08 PM)
u try la~
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oh wai no need 111 unpredictable also, just 3 stargate mass voids it. Since void rays can hit anything that has a hp bar. Your opponent knows what your up to doesnt mean he can stop you.

Mass void > all
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 2 2011, 12:52 PM)
oh wai no need 111 unpredictable also, just 3 stargate mass voids it. Since void rays can hit anything that has a hp bar. Your opponent knows what your up to doesnt mean he can stop you.

Mass void > all
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go try it~
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post Oct 2 2011, 05:28 PM

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mass marine > mass voidray. anytime.
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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Oct 2 2011, 01:02 PM)
go try it~
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Lol So sarcastic

Why so many toss comment here
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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Oct 2 2011, 08:12 PM)
Lol So sarcastic

Why so many toss comment here
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why sarcastic~? OP neh mass vr~ everyday voido ray day day also voido ray~
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Oct 2 2011, 11:41 PM)
why sarcastic~? OP neh mass vr~ everyday voido ray day day also voido ray~
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u try play 3v3 or 4v4, common tactic is 2 or 3 will push, leaving one to tech up, and that tech up guy, most of the time will be protoss since protoss late game units all so powerful. then when u fail to do enough damage, the guy who tech up will show up out of nowhere with shit loads of carrier + void rays and even mothership sometimes then u know its gg. by that time whatever marine viking or anything u can think of to build also useless.

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post Oct 3 2011, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 3 2011, 12:06 AM)
u try play 3v3 or 4v4, common tactic is 2 or 3 will push, leaving one to tech up, and that tech up guy, most of the time will be protoss since protoss late game units all so powerful. then when u fail to do enough damage, the guy who tech up will show up out of nowhere with shit loads of carrier + void rays and even mothership sometimes then u know its gg. by that time whatever marine viking or anything u can think of to build also useless.
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try doing tat on me in team games and i will still beat u with marines LOL...
the reason why u let the other person tech up is ur lack of scouting or army positioning allowing the weaker opposing army (1 guy is teching) do deal tat damage...

ps: when we talk bout balance, we talk bout 1v1 as that is wehre the game is balanced for
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 3 2011, 12:06 AM)
u try play 3v3 or 4v4, common tactic is 2 or 3 will push, leaving one to tech up, and that tech up guy, most of the time will be protoss since protoss late game units all so powerful. then when u fail to do enough damage, the guy who tech up will show up out of nowhere with shit loads of carrier + void rays and even mothership sometimes then u know its gg. by that time whatever marine viking or anything u can think of to build also useless.
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Hello, do you know that Viking can kite Voidray endless? Voidray is OP? This is the funniest thing I ever heard today. Believe it or not, I never have a hard time to deal with void rays, especially in 4v4 games. Basically, scout more. Don't spend all your energy on mules.

This post has been edited by kding2: Oct 3 2011, 12:29 AM
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(kding2 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:28 AM)
Hello, do you know that Viking can kite Voidray endless? Voidray is OP? This is the funniest thing I ever heard today. Believe it or not, I never have a hard time to deal with void rays, especially in 4v4 games. Basically, scout more. Don't spend all your energy on mules.
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voidray OP is siewkaiz say one , not me. but given the limited time u have and the money u throw into offense, wont make it too, not without losing 2 of ur team mates.


Added on October 3, 2011, 12:40 am
QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 3 2011, 12:14 AM)
try doing tat on me in team games and i will still beat u with marines LOL...
the reason why u let the other person tech up is ur lack of scouting or army positioning allowing the weaker opposing army (1 guy is teching) do deal tat damage...

ps: when we talk bout balance, we talk bout 1v1 as that is wehre the game is balanced for
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1v1 is the part where its not balance, i dunno why ppl likes1v1, take an example, Wow arena system, do you know blizzard made 2v2 arena doesnt give arena points anymore? to discourage ppl from playing 2v2. Why? because 2v2 is the arena group (There is no 1v1 in Wow arena ) where ppl QQ the most about certain class being overpower. But they are right, some classes are not meant to beat certain classes. imagine hunter warrior vs priest mage. So when you get this combination, the game is one sided, but when more different classes introduced into the game, its different, the variation of what different classes can offer, will make the imbalance of the game less significant. Lets say protoss is generally slower and takes longer time to build structure. But if you are in 3v3, you have zerg and terran teammate, They can make up your weakness and cover your arse, so u dun feel your weakness being exploited to such an extend the game is imbalance. If 1v1 protoss vs zerg. The significance of zerg's speed will be very obvious and then there comes in the QQers saying zerg needs a nerf because they are too fast.

of coz its just an example, there are many more examples u can easily think off

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post Oct 3 2011, 12:52 AM

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Voidray OP is siewkaiz say one , not me. but given the limited time u have and the money u throw into offense, wont make it too, not without losing 2 of ur team mates.


I pretty sure that siewkaiz being sarcastic there.

How about you scout at 6~8mins in game? At that time, you basically can see through everything what your opponents planning to do, and can conduct a proper counter Also, i hardly doubt that a teching protoss can have 12 voidrays below 10 minutes, and destroyed your teammates. Not a chance.

Also, balance only matters in 1v1 game. Team games are for fun. Never meant to be serious. Being master league in team games is not impressive (in term of skills) compare to being master in 1v1 game, although I admit that getting master in team game is really hard, especially when you are playing with random teammates.
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 3 2011, 12:33 AM)
voidray OP is siewkaiz say one , not me. but given the limited time u have and the money u throw into offense, wont make it too, not without losing 2 of ur team mates.


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1v1 is the part where its not balance, i dunno why ppl likes1v1, take an example, Wow arena system, do you know blizzard made 2v2 arena doesnt give arena points anymore? to discourage ppl from playing 2v2. Why? because 2v2 is the arena group (There is no 1v1 in Wow arena ) where ppl QQ the most about certain class being overpower. But they are right, some classes are not meant to beat certain classes. imagine hunter warrior vs priest mage. So when you get this combination, the game is one sided, but when more different classes introduced into the game, its different, the variation of what different classes can offer, will make the imbalance of the game less significant. Lets say protoss is generally slower and takes longer time to build structure. But if you are in 3v3, you have zerg and terran teammate, They can make up your weakness and cover your arse, so u dun feel your weakness being exploited to such an extend the game is imbalance. If 1v1 protoss vs zerg. The significance of zerg's speed will be very obvious and then there comes in the QQers saying zerg needs a nerf because they are too fast.

of coz its just an example, there are many more examples u can easily think off
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1v1 is where the game is balanced for (see blizz's explanation for patch notes and their state of the game releases)...
u do realize most SC2 tournaments are 1v1 instead of 2v2 3v3 4v4...
even the team leagues (GSTL) are 1v1s lol...

and dun see how protoss is slower with the warp gate and chrono boost mechanics...
speed have mobility for weaker units and u can always hit a timing push vs zergs sleep.gif"

the game is balanced, learn how to scout, pressure and react accordingly while having solid mechanics throughout the game...

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bringing WoW into the discussion is retarded no offense as WoW classes are based on roles...
and yes, i do play WoW hardcore last time...
so how 3v3 in sc2, 1 guy be the tank, another guy be the dps? /facepalm
ps: warrior hunter will beat a priest mage composition if played well lol... know how to CC and burst with of course pvp spec, glyphs n gears...

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post Oct 3 2011, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ Oct 3 2011, 01:22 AM)
1v1 is where the game is balanced for (see blizz's explanation for patch notes and their state of the game releases)...
u do realize most SC2 tournaments are 1v1 instead of 2v2 3v3 4v4...
even the team leagues (GSTL) are 1v1s lol...

and dun see how protoss is slower with the warp gate and chrono boost mechanics...
speed have mobility for weaker units and u can always hit a timing push vs zergs sleep.gif"

the game is balanced, learn how to scout, pressure and react accordingly while having solid mechanics throughout the game...

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bringing WoW into the discussion is retarded no offense as WoW classes are based on roles...
and yes, i do play WoW hardcore last time...
so how 3v3 in sc2, 1 guy be the tank, another guy be the dps? /facepalm
ps: warrior hunter will beat a priest mage composition if played well lol... know how to CC and burst with of course pvp spec, glyphs n gears...
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no leh, 1 guy push, another guy tech up, still got roles in 3v3, 4v4. if 1v1 is so so balance why got ppl keep QQ about these imbalance that imbalance? notably siewkaiz!

i play 3v3 a lot u dun see me QQing at all.


on a personal note, Protoss has mothership! its kinda unfair right, i hope Terran can have Odin as well. RAWR MASS RAMPAGE
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 3 2011, 01:28 AM)
no leh, 1 guy push, another guy tech up, still got roles in 3v3, 4v4. if 1v1 is so so balance why got ppl keep QQ about these imbalance that imbalance? notably siewkaiz!

i play 3v3 a lot u dun see me QQing at all.
on a personal note, Protoss has mothership! its kinda unfair right, i hope Terran can have Odin as well. RAWR MASS RAMPAGE
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i got play 4v4 too~ master thats why i no QQ in team games~ bcoz it is ez mode, i tech into 1 base colosus without any gate unit other just mass lings/banelings and marines = profit within 15minutes~

why i QQ bout terran is~ terran wall in~ doing 1 1 1 or 3/2 rax marauder~ u wont know wat the terran doing until the obs reach their base~ basically vs terran is like coinflip/guesssing~ u flip wrong surface u gg instantly~ especially taldarim omg put 1 bunker at the ramp prevent stalker scout then suddenly 1 1 1 come ggfied, bcoz obs took forever reach terran base even worst if cross position~


Added on October 3, 2011, 8:33 am
QUOTE(kding2 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:52 AM)
I pretty sure that siewkaiz being sarcastic there.
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no a~ wat he said is right wat~ void ray OP if not OP there wont b a voidray song~ dun ya think~? laugh.gif

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Yes VR OP if massed ...

Team games usually if got 2 toss 1 will go VR. And it is possible to get 12 in 10 minutes if our allies gas feed you..like zerg getting 12 mutas in 8 minutes

GG!!!!

Thats the other aspect of team games..you can swap minerals and gas..

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Oct 3 2011, 11:53 AM)
Yes VR OP if massed ...

Team games usually if got 2 toss 1 will go VR. And it is possible to get 12 in 10 minutes if our allies gas feed you..like zerg getting 12 mutas in 8 minutes

GG!!!!

Thats the other aspect of team games..you can swap minerals and gas..
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yup terran giv mineral while zerg give gases~
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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ Oct 3 2011, 08:32 AM)
i got play 4v4 too~ master thats why i no QQ in team games~ bcoz it is ez mode, i tech into 1 base colosus without any gate unit other just mass lings/banelings and marines = profit within 15minutes~

why i QQ bout terran is~ terran wall in~ doing 1 1 1 or 3/2 rax marauder~ u wont know wat the terran doing until the obs reach their base~ basically vs terran is like coinflip/guesssing~ u flip wrong surface u gg instantly~ especially taldarim omg put 1 bunker at the ramp prevent stalker scout then suddenly 1 1 1 come ggfied, bcoz obs took forever reach terran base even worst if cross position~


Added on October 3, 2011, 8:33 am

no a~ wat he said is right wat~ void ray OP if not OP there wont b a voidray song~ dun ya think~?  laugh.gif
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guess its a waste blizzard make overlord to be able to fly.
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 3 2011, 02:58 PM)
guess its  a waste blizzard make overlord to be able to fly.
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protoss gt no overlord doh.gif

the sole problem i find in the protoss race is the lack of scouting way. if they know what is coming, 1-1-1, roach ling all in, xxx all in, all these will be wayyy easier to deflect.

and team game is for lulz. you cant earn as much as Flash or Nestea playing team games.
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QUOTE(FLampard @ Oct 3 2011, 02:58 PM)
guess its  a waste blizzard make overlord to be able to fly.
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they should make zealot cost 125 mineral 50 gas

can hit air and ground~
remove charge
gain new ability: blink and ff then only balance~ i know u think that way too

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